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My great great grand mother was Phoebe Shaw born 11 Nov1841 Market Harborough Leistershire.I am trying to find her parents I know her mother was Ann born 1811 Doncaster but nothing else. Please help would be appreciated.

Have you found her on a census please?

Yes I did I know they died in Dartford kent but nothing else.

Can you give details of the census you have please? It will help to locate her birth on the GRO and parents

oh and the date of death also please

Her marriage cert should name her father. If known

Not below is she?...(with a Phoebe Gibbs 1871 Dartford)

Chris :)

Burial
County Kent
Place Dartford
Church name East Hill and Watling Street Cemetery
Register type Other Register
Register entry number 3905
Burial date 08 May 1881
Person age 83
Burial person forename Ann
Burial person surname SHAW
Burial person abode Dartford Union House
Relationship widow of
Male relative forename William
Relative surname SHAW
Register note Died 5 May 1881. Buried at Brent Cemetery. The register also has plot details etc.

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Dartford/Dartford1881.shtml

(on above, Census taken 3rd April)


Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%)
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Gibbs George Gravesend 2a 336
Shaw Phabe Gravesend 2a 336
SHAW Phebe Gravesend 2a 336
SHAW Phoebe Gravesend 2a 336


England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) George
Last name Gibbs
Marriage year 1861
Marriage date 09 Feb 1861
Marriage place Milton by Gravesend
Spouse's first name(s) Phoebe
Spouse's last name Shaw
County Kent


Edits

Baptism
County Kent
Place Dartford
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1106
Baptism date 17 May 1868
Person forename Emily
Person abode Queen St., Dartford
Father forename George
Father surname GIBBS
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Phoebe


Birth
GIBBS, EMILY (SHAW)
GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 365

1861 and 1851 census

Good find Chris

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Alban Road, Dartford, Kent, England

George Gibbs Head - Male 31 1840 - Kent, England
Phoebe Gibbs Wife - Female 29 1842 - Leicestershire, England
Alice Gibbs Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Kent, England
Harry Gibbs Son - Male 5 1866 - Kent, England
Emily Gibbs Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Kent, England
Arthur Gibbs Son - Male 1 1870 - Kent, England
Ann Shaw Mother-In-Law - Female 72 1799 - Yorkshire, England

Thank you chris.

Possibly
SHAW, PHOEBE FREEMAN Order
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH UNION Volume 15 Page 150

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, Fulwich Lane, Dartford, Kent, England

George Gibbs Head Married Male 21 1840 Labourer In Tan Yard Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England
Phoebe Gibbs Wife Married Female 19 1842 - Market Harborough, Leicestershire, England

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Upper Waterside, Dartford, Kent, England

Ann Shaw Head Widow Female 39 1812 Employ In Garden Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Phoebe Shaw Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Dartford, Kent, England

Ties with 1851 when she is with Freeman grandparent so

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Queen Street, Sheepshed, Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Freeman Head Married Male 59 1792 F W K Cotton Hosiery Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Martha Freeman Wife Married Female 58 1793 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Martha Bennett Daughter Widow Female 27 1824 F W K Cotton Hosiery Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
John Bennett Grand Son - Male 5 1846 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Francis Harris Lodger Unmarried Male 47 1804 L W K Worsted Hosiery Shilton, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Thomas Dutton Lodger Unmarried Male 21 1830 L W K Worsted Hosiery Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
William Smith Lodger Unmarried Male 40 1811 F W K Cotton Hosiery Cheshire, England Transcription
Phoebe Shaw Grand Daughter - Female 8 1843 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Mary Greensmith Visitor Unmarried Female 18 1833 L W K Cotton Hosiery Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Charles Freeman Bennett Grand Son - Male 0 1851 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription

That's just made me cry I have been trying to find this for Ages.Thank you so much this meens so much to my family.xx

If that is the right Phoebe?

There are other Shaw/Freeman births but those children are not with mother Ann?

edit it does look as if other siblings died?

SHAW, ROBERT FREEMAN Order
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH UNION Volume 15 Page 149 Sadly died same year

So which 1851 census is the right one

You said she was born Leicestershire

The children here are also Shaw mmn Freeman

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Buckhorn Square, Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Robert Shaw Head Married Male 39 1812 Angola Frame Work Knitter Woodhouse, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Phoebe Shaw Wife Married Female 34 1817 Seamstress Of Angola Hosierey Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England
Martha Shaw Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England
Herbert Shaw Son - Male 3 1848 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England
Harriot Shaw Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England

Phoebe was born in Leicestershire yes her mother ann Doncaster

Could phoebes mother also be called phoebe and they called her Ann.

This is the Freeman/Shaw family, bearing in mind the age discrepancies on the 1841 ( rounding up or down) this doesn't 'look' like Phoebe is the same person as Ann?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Queen Street, Sheepshead, Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Charles Freeman Male 45 1796 Leicestershire, England
Martha Freeman Female 45 1796 Leicestershire, England
John Freeman Male 25 1816 Leicestershire, England
Martha Freeman Female 15 1826 Leicestershire, England
Hanah Freeman Female 15 1826 Leicestershire, England
Samuel Cooke Male 75 1766 Leicestershire, England
Robert Shaw Male 25 1816 Leicestershire, England
Phoebe Shaw Female 20 1821 Leicestershire, England
Elizabeth Shaw Female 0 1841 Leicestershire, England