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For Christopher.....

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Nov 2017 12:39

Hi Chris

Regarding your PM......referring to Betty M Collins.

I am going to post the information on here. It will make things much easier, rather than having to go back checking through all the PM's

Births Dec 1924 (>99%)
Collins Betty M Phelps Hendon 3a 508

Here is Betty on the 1939 register......indicating that she married Mr Colebrook

Colebrook (Collins) Household (4 People) 11 Eastfield Road , Andover M.B., Hampshire, England

Betty M (Maureen B) Colebrook (Collins) on the 1939 Register

Betty M (Maureen B) Colebrook (Collins) 07 Sep 1924 Female At School Single 170 1
Beatrice E Collins 25 May 1900 Female Shop Keeper (General Stores) Married 170 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed.
Enid Eastman 27 Mar 1909 Female Unpaid Domestic Married 170 4

Enid is Beatrice's married sister.....

Marriages Dec 1934 (>99%)
Eastman Kenneth J Phelps Hendon 3a 1098
Phelps Enid Eastman Hendon 3a 1098

A possible brother for Betty.....

Births Sep 1926 (>99%)
Collins Gerald Phelps Andover 2c 431

Sadly he died the same year......

Deaths Sep 1926 (>99%)
Collins Gerald 0 Andover 2c 235



Her marriage.....

Marriages Jun 1945 (>99%)
Colebrook Gordon P Collins Andover 2c 764
Collins Betty M Colebrook Andover 2c 764


Her parents marriage.....

Marriages Sep 1923 (>99%)
Collins Cyril S Phelps Hendon 3a 841
Phelps Beatrice H Collins Hendon 3a 841

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
COLLINS Cyril Stewart Truro 5c 119.....MMN Truran

(Here is your Portscatho, Cornwall connection!)

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Portscatho, Gerrans, Truro, Cornwall, England

Jane Collins Head Married Female 38 1863 - Portscatho, Cornwall, England
Transcription
Emily Collins Daughter Single Female 17 1884 - Ireland
Transcription
George Collins Son - Male 14 1887 - Ireland
Transcription
Jane Collins Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Mark T Collins Son - Male 10 1891 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Ben G Collins Son - Male 9 1892 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Richard Collins Son - Male 7 1894 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Wesley Collins Son - Male 6 1895 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Lavinia Collins Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Gerrans, Cornwall, England
Transcription
Frank Collins Son - Male 2 1899 - Gerrans, Cornwall, England
Transcription
Cyril Collins ***** Son - Male 0 1901 - Portscatho, Cornwall, England


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Portscatho Cornwall, Gerrans, Cornwall, England

Jane Collins Head Widow Female - 48 1863 Cornwall Portscatho
Transcription
Wesley Collins Son Single Male Caretaker Of Institute 16 1895 Grade Cornwall
Transcription
Lavinia Collins Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Cornwall Portscatho
Transcription
Frank Collins Son - Male School 12 1899 Cornwall Portscatho
Transcription
Cyril Collins ***** Son - Male School 10 1901 Cornwall Portscatho

(9 children born, 8 living, 1 had died)

The family in 1891.....

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Coast Guard Station, St Ruan, Grade, Helston, Cornwall, England

John Collins Head Married Male 45 1846 (Sea R.N) .****Coast Guard Commissioned Bt Man**** St Maws Cornwall, England
Transcription
Jane Collins Wife Married Female 28 1863 Germans? Cornwall, England
Transcription
May L Collins Daughter Single Female 13 1878 - Ireland
Transcription
Elizabeth Collins Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Ireland
Transcription
Charles J Collins Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Ireland
Transcription
Emily Collins Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Ireland
Transcription
George H Collins Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Ireland
Transcription
Jane Collins Daughter - Female 1 1890 Cadwith Cornwall, England
Transcription
Mark T Collins Son - Male 0 1891 Cadwith Cornwall, England

John and Jane's marriage...

Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
COLLINS John Truro 5c 257
TRURAN Jane Truro 5c 257

(Looking at the births of the Ireland born children......possibly John's second marriage)

John on the 1901 census..

John Collins in the 1901 England Census

Name: John Collins
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation to Head: Ab (Seaman)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Maws, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Northam Southampton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Southampton
Sub-registration district: Southampton
ED, institution, or vessel: Oberon

James G Scaity 48
John Collins 55 Married
Wm Wade 25
Jas Welshman 20
Thomas Nichlls 20


John Collins in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Collins
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: Truro
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 86



British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939 Transcription

First name(s) Cyril Stewart
Last name Collins
Address: Wellington Terrace, Portscatho, Cornwall
Address on Discharge: 18 Eastfield Road, Andover
Next of Kin: (Mother) Mrs Jane Collins......Wellington Terrace, Portscatho, Cornwall
Birth year 1900
Birth date 20 May 1900
Birth town Portscatho
Birth county Cornwall
Attestation year 1919
Attestation date 02 Apr 1919
Attestation age 18
Service number 329004
Marriage year 1923
Marriage date 18 Aug 1923
Spouse's first name(s) Beatrice
Spouse's last name Phelps
Child's first name(s) Belly Maureen
Child's birth date 07 Sep 1924
Archive reference AIR 79/2808
Discharge Date: 28/12/1929
Record set British Royal Air Force, Airmen's Service Records 1912-1939
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain, England


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) CYRIL STEWART
Last name COLLINS
Gender Male
Birth day 20
Birth month 5
Birth year 1900
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1981
District Camborne-Redruth
County Cornwall
Volume 21
Page 0074
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England


Cornwall Memorial Inscriptions Transcription


First name(s) CYRIL STEWART
Last name COLLINS
Age 81
Birth year 1900
Death year 1981
Death date 27 Jul 1981
Place GERRANS
Burial ground Parish Church
County Cornwall
Country England
Card or location number Card
Post nominal -
Reference 75
Record set Cornwall Memorial Inscriptions
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Nov 2017 12:48

Cyril Stewart Collins in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Cyril Stewart Collins
Death Date: 27 Jul 1981
Death Place: Portscatho Cornwall
Probate Date: 29 Oct 1981
Registry: Bristol

Of 24 Parc an Dillon Road. Portscatho, Cornwall. £32766





PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Nov 2017 12:51

Death of Betty....

Betty Maureen Colebrook in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Betty Maureen Colebrook
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: 7 Sep 1924
Registration Date: Jan 2006
Registration district: New Forest
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: -1
Page: -1
Register Number: 13A
District and Subdistrict: 494/1A
Entry Number: 032

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Nov 2017 12:57

Beatrice Ellen Phelps in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Beatrice Ellen Phelps
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 181



Beatrice Ellen Phelps in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916
Name: Beatrice Ellen Phelps
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Aug 1900
Baptism Place: Harrow St Mary, Harrow, England
Father: Arthur Phelps (Plumber) 5 Laburnham Cottages. Sudbury
Mother: Rachel Phelps
Register Type: Parish Registers


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pinner Road, Wembley, Hendon, Middlesex, England

Arthur Phelps Head Married Male 30 1871 Plumber Harrow, Middlesex, England
Transcription
Rachel Phelps Wife Married Female 31 1870 - Wales
Transcription
Mary Phelps Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England
Transcription
Margaret Phelps Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England
Transcription
Rachel Phelps Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England
Transcription
Beatrice Phelps Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Laburnham Cotts Pinner Road Sudbury Mdx, Wembley, Middlesex, England

Arthur Phelps Head Married Male Plumber 40 1871 Harrow Midlx
Transcription
Rachel Phelps Wife - Female - 41 1870 Crombach S Wales
Transcription
Mary Phelps Daughter Single Female General Servant Domestic 16 1895 Sudbury
Transcription
Maggie Phelps Daughter Single Female Nurse Domestic 15 1896 Sudbury
Transcription
Bessie Phelps Daughter Single Female Nurse Domestic 14 1897 Wales Sudbury
Transcription
Rachel Phelps Daughter Single Female - 13 1898 Sudbury
Transcription
Beatie Phelps ******* Daughter Single Female - 12 1899 Sudbury
Transcription
Dorothy Phelps Daughter Single Female - 10 1901 Sudbury
Transcription
Mabel Phelps Daughter Single Female - 8 1903 Sudbury
Transcription
Minnie Phelps Daughter Single Female - 7 1904 Sudbury
Transcription
Sarah Phelps Daughter Single Female - 5 1906 Sudbury
Transcription
Arthur Phelps Son Single Male - 3 1908 Sudbury
Transcription
Enid Phelps Daughter Single Female - 2 1909 Sudbury
Transcription
Betty Phelps Daughter Single Female - 0 1911 Sudbury

(13 children born, 12 living , 1 had died)


Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
Davies Rachel Hendon 3a 269
Phelps Arthur Hendon 3a 269

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Nov 2017 13:11

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription


First name(s) BEATRICE ELLEN
Last name COLLINS
Gender Female
Birth day 25
Birth month 5
Birth year 1900
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1979
District St. Austell
County Cornwall
Volume 21
Page 0589
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England


Cornwall Memorial Inscriptions Transcription

First name(s) BEATRICE HELEN
Last name COLLINS
Age 78
Birth year 1901
Death year 1979
Death date 12 Mar 1979
Place GERRANS
Burial ground Parish Church
County Cornwall
Country England
Card or location number Card
Post nominal -
Reference 75
Record set Cornwall Memorial Inscriptions
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Nov 2017 15:18

Please reply on here Chris..

Prickles ;o))

christopher

christopher Report 15 Nov 2017 19:41

Phew, you have been busy, I have quickly run through this, and looks pretty interesting, plus it does cross reference to a couple of bits of info I have been given plus found. Thankyou , I will be back in touch once I have laid this all out.
Cheers Chris

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Nov 2017 20:19

Hi Chris

Thank you for replying on here.

Take your time to check through all the info.

With the all the information that you gave me..........it all seems to make sense.

Prickles. ;o))

christopher

christopher Report 15 Nov 2017 23:03

Hi , having spent a bit more time on checking, it makes perfect sense, and what large families they had. Now can I start a thread for Gordon Percival Colebrook, born 1920 Andover, married Betty M Collins 1945.
Thankyou again for your help. Chris

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Nov 2017 08:54

Hi Chris

Here is your Gordon Percival Colebrook thread.......

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1367393

Just add to that thread what further information you are looking for.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Nov 2017 11:06

Details of John Collins and Jane Truran's marriage.......

12 Nov 1887 • Wesleyan Chapel, St Mawes, Truro Parish, Cornwall, England.

Groom; John Collins (Widower)
Age: 42
Occ: Coastguard
Residence: St Mawes, St Just
Father John Collins (Deceased) Seaman R.N.
Bride: Jane Truran (Spinster)
Age: 25
Residence: Portscatho, Gerrans
Father: Mark Truran (Carpenter)
.Witnesses: John Cock and Florence G Collins

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Nov 2017 11:50

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Mawes, St Just, Truro, Cornwall, England

Elizabeth Collins Head Widow Female 40 1821 Lodging House Keeper St Mawes, Cornwall, England
Transcription
Mary Collins Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Dressmaker St Mawes, Cornwall, England
Transcription
Elizabeth Ambrosone Daughter - Female 12 1849 Scholar St Mawes, Cornwall, England
Transcription
George Greet Collins Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar St Mawes, Cornwall, Transcription
Mary Lawer Mother Widow Female 72 1789 Formerly Fish Seine Maker St Mawes, Cornwall, England
Transcription
John Collins **** Son - Male 15 1846 ...Apprentice R N St Mawes, Cornwall,


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Mawes, St Just, Truro, Cornwall, England

John Collins Head Married Male 33 1818 Mariner R N St Mawes, Cornwall, England
Transcription
Elizabeth Collins Wife Married Female 31 1820 - St Mawes, Cornwall, England
Transcription
Joseph Collins Son Unmarried Male 10 1841 Scholar St Mawes, Cornwall, England
Transcription
Bernd G Collins Son Unmarried Male 8 1843 Scholar St Mawes, Cornwall, England
Transcription
John Collins **** Son Unmarried Male 5 1846 Scholar St Mawes, Cornwall, England
Transcription
Ambrazine Collins Daughter Unmarried Female 2 1849 - St Mawes, Cornwall, England
Transcription
John Greet Uncle Unmarried Male 57 1794 Porter St Mawes, Cornwall, England


COLLINS, JOHN MMN LOWER
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in TRURO UNION Volume 09 Page

John Collins in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: John Collins
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1845
Baptism Date: 9 Aug 1848
Baptism Place: St Just IN Roseland,Cornwall,England
Father: John Collins
Mother: Elizabeth

Parents marriage.......

Marriages Dec 1838 (>99%)
COLLINS John Truro 9 363
LOWER Elizabeth Truro 9 363


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Mawes, St Just, Truro, Cornwall, England

Elizabeth Collins Female 22 1819 (Wfe of Mariner) Cornwall, England
Transcription
Mary Collins Female 11 months 1841 - Cornwall England
Transcription
Joseph Collins Male 11 months 1841 Cornwall, England

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Nov 2017 12:47

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Portscatho, Gerrans, Truro, Cornwall, England

Mark Truran Head - Male (Carpenter) 46 1825 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Ann Truran Wife - Female 45 1826 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Louisa Truran Daughter - Female 21 1850 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Richard Truran Son - Male 16 1855 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Frederick Truran Son - Male 13 1858 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Charles Truran Son - Male 10 1861 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Jane Truran **** Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Anne Truran Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Lavinia Truran Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Cornwall, England
Transcription
Mary Truran Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Cornwall, England


TRURAN, JANE MMN LOWER
GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in TRURO Volume 05C Page 170


Marriages Mar 1848 (>99%)
LOWER Ann Tiller Truro 9 335
Truran Mark Truro 9 335


Ann Tiller Lower in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Ann Tiller Lower
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 24 Jul 1825
Baptism Place: St Just IN Roseland,Cornwall,England
Father: Richard Lower
Mother: Mary