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Hi all,

Just thought I'd let you know that I received the death record for Henry Long died Islington Infirmary 9/10/1891 - registered 10/10/1891 - buried 12/10/1891 but this isn't my Henry.

This Henry was a shoemaker - journeyman and my Henry was a retired gamekeeper so I am back to square one again.

Marj

Thank you for that info. I will look into it today.

A quick look at the "other 65" burials - they date from 14 Sept. to 3 Dec. 1891

Picking out a few to look at the individual entry -
ages range from days to old
some addresses are private, some workhouse.

The grave reference is M/Poor/17400

This looks to be a Pauper's grave, with many interments, used until full

Hello all,
I didn't know George 1852 existed either.

I have the 1871 and 1881 Census but couldn't find 1861.
The 1851 Census shows him (age 20) at home with parents Edward and Elizabeth - Bladon, Woodstock, Oxforshire.

I wonder why Jane Elizabeth wasn't on the 1871 Census?

I couldn't find any birth record for wife Hannah so don't know who parents were.

I think I'll have to get some certificates.

Maybe there was an epidemic of something about 1891 for him to be buried with 65 others.

Will order the DC today and see what it says.

Can anyone tell me if I order a certificate as PDF can I print it out? It takes 6-8 weeks by post to Australia.

Thank you all so much for all the new info you have given me so far..I am amazed at some of it and now wonder how much more I don't know.

Edited !

Henry might not necessarily have been in the workhouse, but in the Infirmary attached to the workhouse. It may have been the only option for medical care for him.

Missing Pieces 1861 Census...

(just seen Oxfordshire, Woodstock, Combe being on list of 19 place names)

Chris :)

(44 Gibson Square as 'Residence' for Fanny on 1897 Marriage (Ancestry, London) notes a witness, Edith Nash)


1911 (Find My Past)
Odessa Nash Head Married Male Builder's Foreman 56 1855 Hockering Norfolk
Jane Elizabeth Nash Wife Married Female - 56 1855 Stonesfield Oxfordshire
Edith Elizabeth Nash Daughter Single Female Civil Service Clerk 28 1883 St Marys Islington
Address 44 Gibson Square Islington North
Census reference RG14 PN934 RG78 PN32 RD10 SD6 ED32 SN1
(says Married 30yrs, 2 children born, 1 living 1 died)


Birth
NASH, FREDERICK WILLIAM (LONG)
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 335


Deaths Dec 1888 (>99%)
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NASH Frederick William 4 Islington 1b 210


(wondered if below was her?, strange 1891 Henry being in 2 places, lol)

Deaths Mar 1890 (>99%)
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Long Hannah 62 Woodstock 3a 606


1881 (Find My Past)
Henry Long Head Married Male 48 1833 Gamekeeper Combe, Oxfordshire, England
Hannah Long Wife Married Female 50 1831 - Eton, Berkshire, England
Alfred Long Son Single Male 14 1867 Ag Labourer Combe, Oxfordshire, England
Fanny Long Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Combe, Oxfordshire, England
House name Near The Church
Parish Steeple Barton
County Oxfordshire
Registration district Woodstock
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 1509
Folio 44
Page 12


Edits (gg think you had 1881 posted, instead of 1891 above)

Elizabeth showing as born Oxon but not Coombe, but can't read the place

Fanny married Islington RD

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Gibson Square, Islington, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
? Narh Head Married Male 36 1855 Joiner Great Witchingham, Norfolk, England
Elizabeth Narh Wife Married Female 36 1855 - Oxfordshire, England
Edith Narh Daughter - Female 8 1883 - London, Middlesex, England
Henry Long Visitor Widower Male 60 1831 Retired Gamekeeper Oxfordshire, England
Fanny Long Visitor Single Female 23 1868 - Oxfordshire, England
William F Emery Lodger Single Male 60 1831 Clerk Switzerland

Hannah now said to be born Eton, Berks

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Near the Church, Steeple Barton, Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Long Head Married Male 48 1833 Gamekeeper Combe, Oxfordshire, England
Hannah Long Wife Married Female 50 1831 - Eton, Berkshire, England
Alfred Long Son Single Male 14 1867 Ag Labourer Combe, Oxfordshire, England
Fanny Long Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Combe, Oxfordshire, England

An earlier child than Jane, also not at home 1871 - not finding family 1861

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
LONG, GEORGE LOCKEY Order
GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in WOODSTOCK UNION Volume 03A Page 523

And Frederick should be around 1861 too
LONG, FREDERICK LOCKEY Order
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in WOODSTOCK Volume 03A Page 529 Order

So, your family 1871.

All born Coombe, Henry a Gamekeeper

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Not Oaks Lodge, Combe, Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Long Head - Male 40 1831 - Oxfordshire, England
Hannah Long Wife - Female 41 1830 - Oxfordshire, England
Edwin Long Son - Male 12 1859 - Oxfordshire, England
Frederick Long Son - Male 10 1861 - Oxfordshire, England
Jesse Long Son - Male 7 1864 - Oxfordshire, England
Alfred Long Son - Male 5 1866 - Oxfordshire, England
Fanny Long Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Oxfordshire, England

I'll check that out because honestly I've not heard of her before today.
Thank you so much.
Marj

Would be below, you seem to have missed...

Chris :)

Birth
LONG, JANE ELIZABETH (LOCKEY)
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in CHIPPING NORTON Volume 03A Page 562


Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%)
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Lockey Hannah Oxford 3a 704
Long Henry Oxford 3a 704

HI all, I am having a bit of trouble trying to fit it all together. My Henry was a game keeper and lived all his life with wife Hannah (Lockey) in Oxfordshire and the 1881 Census has the parish as Steeple Barton.

I just don't have an older daughter Jane Elizabeth. Henry's children were:-
Edwin b.1859
Frederick b.1861
Jesse b.1864
Alfred b.1866
Fanny b.1868

Maybe he has more children that I wasn't aware of or maybe I have the 1891 census mixed up with another Henry Long.
I can't imagine what he was doing in a workhouse as was financially able to support himself according to family stories I've heard.

I am somewhat confused at the moment.

Deceased online posted by Chris Ho shows a 59 year old Henry Long, abode Islington Workhouse, buried with 65 others. No other detail available.

Possibly below for that one...

Chris :)

Burial Register summary

Long Henry
Burial date 12 October 1891
Location Islington

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(from above, credits needed to view Register)


(below was who he was with 1891, and Daughter)

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
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Long Jane Elizabeth Woodstock 3a 1155
Nash Odessa Woodstock 3a 1155


Birth
NASH, EDITH ELIZABETH (LONG)
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 299


30 October 1880 - Oxford Times - Oxford, Oxfordshire, England

Marriage
NASH LONG - October 25, at Steeple Barton, by the Rev. K. P. Burnett. Odessa Nash, of Islington to Jane Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Mr. Henry Long, gamekeeper to A.W. Hall Esq.


Birth
NASH, ODESSA (KETTERINGHAM)
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in MITFORD & LAUNDITCH Volume 04B Page 274


Marriages Jun 1854 (>99%)
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Ketteringham Anne Elizabeth Mitford 4b 497
NASH Abraham Mitford 4b 497



Deaths Dec 1921 (>99%)
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Nash Odessa 66 Reigate 2a 237


Deaths Dec 1924 (>99%)
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Nash Jane E 69 Reigate 2a 246


Deaths Mar 1939 (>99%)
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Nash Edith E 56 Surrey S. E. 2a 686

Surely this one is a possibility:-

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) HENRY
Last name LONG
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1832
Age 59
Death quarter 4
Death year 1891
District Islington
County London
Volume 1B
Page 127
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

I have found that ages on death certificates are often out by a year or two as the informant isn't always sure of the exact year of birth. It would be worth ordering the certificate to see who the informant was.

Kath. x

I am looking for the death place/date for Henry Long b.13/5/1831 - Coombe, Oxfordshire. In the 1891 Census he was visiting a family named Narh in Islington, England with his daughter Fanny. Fanny then married 29/5/1897 to Richard Nichol and the ML states Henry as deceased.

GRO only has a few deaths 1891 - 1897 Islington - most are too old and one too young (59yr). He may have died elsewhere and there are heaps of Henry Long on the register but I don't know which would be my Henry.

I would appreciate any help offered. Thank you