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Thank u both x

You do have to buy the certificate to get the mother's full name, unless you are lucky enough to find a tree on here or on ancestry that has the information.

Genealogy can be an expensive hobby!

On 1881 - those were the only people in the household as there was a completed mark on there under William.

The rest of the page was completely empty so I don't know why Ancestry put all those 'untranscribed' messages underneath.

The rest of the page was completely empty so nothing to transcribe.

Dea x

This may be Thomas b. 1875 in Longton. If so, it would seem that Mary Harding is his mother.


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Russell Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

Josiah Baker Head Single Male 43 1838 Potter Slip Maker Longton, Staffordshire, England
Mary Harding Boarder Single Female 45 1836 - Longton, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Harding Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Longton, Staffordshire, England
Martha Harding Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Longton, Staffordshire, England

So then I'm wondering if Thomas should be on that census too?!

Dea I noticed in that 1881 there are some names that aren't transcribed why is this - I ve just seen this record on ancestry x

This marriage is what I'm basing my assumption that this is the Thimas Harding who in the above record b 1875

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Thomas Harding
mentioned in the record of Thomas Harding and Emily Cartlidge
Name Thomas Harding
Birth Date 1875
Age 19
Spouse's Name Emily Cartlidge
Spouse's Birth Date 1873
Spouse's Age 21
Event Date 1894
Event Place Saint James, Longton, Stafford, England
Spouse's Father's Name John Cartlidge

I'm thinking its Emily Harding again 1859 who married William Lymer in. 1880 I'm wondering if she had another illegitimate son in 1875 too as well as William Thomas Harding Lymer b 1880

Hi I thought I'd add this on as it's relevant to the above but is it possible to see the mothers first name on certain sites it do I have to order the certificate.


Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1875
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
HARDING Thomas HARDING Longton Stoke-On-Trent LGN/054/065
Total records matching : 3.

I was right with george then yay lol

Hi Dea thank u for this x

Here they are on 1881 but she is calling herself Emma :


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
At the Back, Upper John Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Lymer Head Married Male 26 1855 Coal Miner Caverswall, Staffordshire, England
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Emma Lymer Wife Married Female 22 1859 Potters Lath Treader Longton, Staffordshire, England
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William Thos Harding Step Son Single Male 1 1880 - Longton, Staffordshire, England

Dea x

Ahhhh from ancestry

Emily Harding
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: Emily Harding
Gender: Female
Age: 22
Birth Date: 1858
Marriage Date: 1880
Marriage Place: Longton, St. John, Stafford, England
Father: George Harding
Spouse: William Lymer
FHL Film Number: 1471087
Reference ID: 2:3KT8N0D

And the reverse

Name: William Lymer
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1855
Marriage Date: 1880
Marriage Place: Longton, St. John, Stafford, England
Father: Richard Lymer
Spouse: Emily Harding
FHL Film Number: 1471087
Reference ID: 2:3KT8N0D

A tree on ancsstry has her born 1858 longton staffs

Ahhh ok that's a shame but thanks anyways

http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php

Only has the marriage record showing where married

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1880
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HARDING Emily LIMER William Longton, St John the Baptist Stoke-On-Trent 19/02/108.
Total records matching : 1

It depends on the area whether parish records have been uploaded to a website

Not every marriage details are online .many you still have to buy the cert

Hi right I've realised only marriages before 1901 have viewable father of the bride etc

Please could some one look up this

If I'm right Emily Harding married William Lymer:Limer
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England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name Emily Harding
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1880
Registration District Stoke On Trent
County Staffordshire
Event Place Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire, England
Volume 6B
Page 229
Line Number 55

Emily Harding probably married one of the following people
Name Edward Jerrum
Name Mary Lees
Name William Limer
Name. Wiliam Lymer