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Chandler/Robins

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2017 14:13

Hi everyone.....hoping someone might be able to help.

Mary Ann Chandler born 1832 Whitechapel, London

Married John Robins in 1863

Mary Ann Chandler in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Mary Ann Chandler
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 18 Jan 1863
Marriage Place: Kennington, Surrey, England
Father: Jasper Chandler
Spouse: John Robins....WIDOWER...Father: William Robins

I can't for the life of me find a John or Mary Ann Robins on the 1871 census.

It is not the Mary Ann Robins with a spouse John (Born: 1835 Nailsworth, Gloucestershire) in Clifton, Gloucestershire......I have already checked that one out.

John obviously died some time between 1863 and 1877 because Mary Ann remarried in 1877........

Name: Mary Ann Robins (Widow)
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 46
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1831
Marriage Date: 22 Apr 1877
Marriage Place: St James, Clapham Park, Lambeth, England
Father: Jasper Chandler
Spouse: George Cross (Widower) Engine Fitter

I Can't find Mary Ann or George on the 1881 census.

I think this is George on the 1891 census

Name: George Cross
Gender: Male
Age: 80
Birth Year: 1811
Birth Place: Holborn, London, England
Civil Parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Residence Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub registration district: Wandsworth
ED, Institution or Vessel: Wandsworth and Clapham Union

George Cross 80 (Widower) Engineer

Thank you.....Prickles. :-)

safc

safc Report 5 Nov 2017 14:32

ROBBINS, WILLIAM CHARLES CHANDLER Order
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 393

safc

safc Report 5 Nov 2017 14:33

ROBBINS, ELIZABETH JANE CHANDLER Order
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 461

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2017 14:51

Interesting safc.......but unfortunately, they are the children of Charles and Sarah Robbins.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Stangale Street, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England

Charles J Robbins Head - Male 33 1838 - Sussex, England
Sarah Robbins Wife - Female 36 1835 - Surrey, England
William C Robbins Son - Male 8 1863 - Surrey, England
Elizabeth J Robbins Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Surrey, England

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Nov 2017 14:52

Hi Prickles


Possible for 1881??

Name: Mary B. Crose (Mary A on image)
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: George Crose
Gender: Female
Where born: Camberwell, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: Plough Inn 2 The Grove
Marital Status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Wife
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 673
Folio: 90
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
George Crose 70
Mary B. Crose 52
Walter Pilkington 25
Emma Pilkington 23
Walter E. Pilkington 3
Stanley L.H. Pilkington 1
Alfred P. Hearn 5
George Morris 22
William Young 30
Elizh. Tannell 35

Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2017 15:02

Hiya Andrew ~~~~~~

I don't think that's them......If i have the correct George, i believe this is him on the 1871 census.

Occupation: Engine Fitter

George Cross in the 1871 England Census

Name: George Cross
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Cross
Gender: Male
Where born: St Andrews, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Clapham
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Clapham

George Cross 60
Ann Cross 56
Charlotte Cross 28
George W Cross 5

The one on the 1881 census.....Occupation: Retailer Of Beer..Born: Watford, Herts.

malyon

malyon Report 5 Nov 2017 15:07


Mary A Robbins
Canada Census, 1871
Name
Mary A Robbins
Gender
Female
Age
38
Birth Year (Estimated)
1833
Birthplace
England
Marital Status
Married
Nationality
English
Religion
Bible Christian
Event Place
03, Darlington a, West Durham 50, Ontario
House Number
201
Affiliate Film Number
C-9977

malyon

malyon Report 5 Nov 2017 15:13

could mary have died

Deaths Jun 1867   (>99%)

Robins
 Mary Ann
 34
 Mile End
 1c
351

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Nov 2017 15:15

Could this be her application:-

Index to Register of Passport Applications 1851-1903 Transcription

First name(s) Mary A
Last name Robbins
Application year 1860
Record set Index To Register Of Passport Applications 1851-1903
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Travel
Collections from England, Great Britain

Kath. x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2017 15:22

Hi Kath........Mary didn't marry John Robins until 1863.

Malyon......Mary Ann remarried in 1877.

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Nov 2017 21:33

Looking at deaths for John Robins.

Only 2 seem to be of the right age in London 1863-1877

Deaths Jun 1870 (>99%)
Robins John 36 Wandsworth 1d 338
Deaths Sep 1870 (>99%)
Robins John 38 Islington 1b 209

If one of these is correct, then Mary should be on her own in 1871


Name: Mary Robins
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Vauxhall, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Emmanuel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 665
Folio: 125
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Hewett 36
Jane Hewett 35
Laurel Hewett 11
Jane Hewett 9
Louisa Hewett 5
William Hewett 1
>>>>>>>Mary Robins 37

Lodger, General Dealer, shown as married?

Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Nov 2017 22:16

Oh, thanks for still looking Andrew.

I will check that information out tomorrow.......as my eye balls turned inside out about 5 hours ago.

:-S :-D

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Nov 2017 07:06

1870 Burial on Ancestry, London, 30th June (no address, just Wandsworth for Abode)

Islington one looks to be on below, burial Camden (credits needed for details)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/


(not on below!)

http://burials.wandsworth.gov.uk/

Chris :)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Nov 2017 09:13

Thank you Chris.

Thank you Andrew......that one is a possibility i suppose.

I might purchase a copy of the Chandler/Robins marriage cert for more info regarding John.

xxx