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Carol

Carol Report 31 Oct 2017 08:07

Good morning I really appreciate all that you have done for me.I am so excited after all this time I cannot believe it. Thankyou so much.x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Oct 2017 08:43

Census Years1901DownEast Urban (Banbridge)Brawns RowResidents of a house

Residents of a house 10 in Brawns Row (East Urban (Banbridge), Down)

McMeekin Lizzie 7 Female Daughter Church of Ireland County Down Attending Scoolar Read - Not Married -
McMeekin Sarah 13 Female Daughter Church of Ireland County Down Scollar Redd and write - Not Married -
McMeekin Isabella Female Daughter Church of Ireland County Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
McMeekin Mary 1 Female Daughter Church of Ireland County Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
McMeekin Joseph 33 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland County Down Linen Weaver Read and write - Married -
McMeekin Isabella 32 Female Mother Church of Ireland County Down Linen Weaver Read and write - Married -
McMeekin Sarah 59 Female Mother in Law Church of Ireland County Down House Keeper Read - Widow -
McMeekin Robert 3 Male Son Church of Ireland County Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
McMeekin John 6 Male Son Church of Ireland County Down Scholar Cannot read - Not Married -
McMeekin Joseph 8 Male Son Church of Ireland County Down Attending Scoolar Read and write - Not Married -
McMeekin William 9 Male Son Church of Ireland County Down Attending Scoolar Read and write - Not Married -
McMeekin James 5 Male Son Church of Ireland County Down Scholar Cannot read - Not Ma

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Oct 2017 08:56

Census Years1901DownUpper Iveagh (Lower Half)Clarkill Row TownResidents of a house

Residents of a house 11 in Clarkill Row Town (Upper Iveagh (Lower Half), Down)

Downie Martha 11 Female Daughter Methodist Down Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Downie Maggie 9 Female Daughter Methodist Down Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Downie Sarah 3 Female Daughter Methodist Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
Downie Malvina 14 Female Daughter Methodist Down Mill Hand Read and write - Not Married
Downie James 37 Male Head of Family Methodist Down Tinsmith Read and write - Married -
Downie Robert 17 Male Son Methodist Down Mechanic Read and write - Not Married -
Downie Thomas 7 Male Son Methodist Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
Downie Maggie 36 Female Wife Methodist Down - Read and write - Married

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Oct 2017 09:34

Robert James
Last name Downie
Age 27
Birth year -
Birth county Down
Birth country Ireland
Service number 10602
Regiment Royal Irish Fusiliers
Unit / Battalion 6th Service Battalion
Year 1914
Residence county Down
Residence country Ireland
Series WO 363
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Archive The National Archives
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
brightsolid online publishing ltd.



I was hoping his military records would have named the child from his first marriage but no luck. In his physical description he has a tattoo of clasped hands and the name Sarah on his arm. There is a copy of his letter requesting permission to marry Lizzie. Prior to his marriage his next of kin is his sister, Mrs. McNally.

Carol

Carol Report 31 Oct 2017 09:51

wow thank you very much. I was not expecting all this.x

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Oct 2017 09:56

His child that died was William Thomas Downie, died aged 13 days on 7 March 1908, disability from birth. Father's address Spruce Street, Belfast.

Carol

Carol Report 31 Oct 2017 09:56

Root gatherer where could I get a copy of Robert james Downie military records Please.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Oct 2017 10:05

William Thomas Downie in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: William Thomas Downie
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908
Registration district: Belfast
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 307
FHL Film Number: 101072


William Thomas Downie
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
Name: William Thomas Downie
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908
Death Age: 0
Registration district: Belfast
Volume: 1
Page: 308
FHL Film Number: 0101604


William Thomas Downie in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: William Thomas Downie
Birth Date: 1908
Death Date: 7 Mar 1908
Cemetery: Belfast City Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Belfast, County Antrim, Northern Ireland
Has Bio?: N
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

Click on this link.....

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=182059324&ref=acom

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Oct 2017 10:19

Maybe his surviving child? Father Robert Downie

ADELAIDE DOWNIE
Date of Birth 11 May 1906
Group Registration ID 320278
SR District/Reg Area Belfast
Sex Female
Mother's Birth Surname McBride (Lizzie)

I got his military records from FindMyPast. They will probably be on Ancestry and maybe the National Archives. There's a few pages of them and I not sure if I would need to download them individually to send them to you.



EDIT

Forget the above birth, I've found William Thomas's birth and his mum was Sarah Graham

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Oct 2017 10:39

WILLIAM DOWNIE
Date of Birth 22 February 1908
Group Registration ID 535558
SR District/Reg Area Belfast
Sex Male
Mother's Birth Surname GRAHAM

Carol

Carol Report 31 Oct 2017 11:02

Wow you are coming up trumps for me Thank you so much.x

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Oct 2017 11:06

Ah! Found the other child. Probably with his maternal grandparents.

Census Years1911DownScarvaPoyntz PassResidents of a house
Residents of a house 6 in Poyntz Pass (Scarva, Down)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Graham James 54 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Down Signal Man G N R Read and write - Married - - - -
Graham Lizzie 53 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Armagh - Read and write - Married - 35 8 5
Graham Wm James 23 Male Son Presbyterian Co Armagh Quarry Man Read and write - Single - - - -
Graham Rebecca 21 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Armagh - Read and write - Single - - - -
Graham Alice 17 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Armagh - Read and write - Single - - - -
Downey Robert Jas 6 Male Grand Son Presbyterian Belfast Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -

Carol

Carol Report 31 Oct 2017 11:13

This is making my head go around now so you thing lizzie McBride is the first wife then.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Oct 2017 11:14

Just to confirm, here's Sarah with her family in 1901.


Census Years1901ArmaghTandragee UrbanMarket StreetResidents of a house
Residents of a house 46 in Market Street (Tandragee Urban, Armagh)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses

Graham James 45 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Church Co Armagh Signalman Read and write Irish Married -
Graham Eliza 43 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Armagh - Read and write Irish Married -
Graham Lizzie 22 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Armagh Reeler Read and write Irish Not Married -
Graham Sarah 18 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Armagh G Servant Read and write Irish Not Married -
Graham Mary 15 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Armagh Rover Read and write Irish Not Married -
Graham Willie J 13 Male Son Presbyterian Co Armagh Screwer Read and write Irish Not Married -
Graham Rebecca 11 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Armagh Scholar Cannot read or write Irish Not Married -
Graham Alice 7 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Armagh Scholar Read and write Irish Not Married -

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Oct 2017 11:17

No. The mc Bride is wrong.

His first wife was Sarah Graham (see above census). Whether he had Sarah's name tattooed on his arm before or after her death we'll never know.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Oct 2017 11:18

Got to go out now. Will look back this evening :-)

Carol

Carol Report 31 Oct 2017 11:25

Thankyou your a gemxx :-)

Carol

Carol Report 1 Nov 2017 12:18

I would like to thank rootgather,prickly holy and anyone else who helped me with the missing parts of my tree .Thank you so much.xx

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Nov 2017 12:26

It's been a pleasure Carol.

Do you still have bits missing please? Do you have dates for the deaths of Elizabeth's parents? Did they remain in Ireland of come to England with Elizabeth? Did Elizabeth have full siblings?

If you need anything else please just add it to this thread.

I'm sure you won't delete this thread but just to say, it's best to leave it as perhaps some of Elizabeth's cousins descendants may get around to tracing their family tree.

Good luck with your research :-)

Carol

Carol Report 1 Nov 2017 13:34

No I haven't got any siblings yet But I will find them .And like to say once again Thank you so much for your kind help.God bless you xx :-) :-D
Elizabeth had a twin brother named Robert and two sisters Isabel and phylis.all born in Ireland but died here in Dartford kent.