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Kayak

Kayak Report 23 Oct 2017 12:33

Arthur Hallum born c1863 in the 1871 census???:


Eli Hallam
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Eli Hallam
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Sutton Bonington St Ann End, Leicestershire, England
Enumeration District 11
Gender Male
Age 41
Marital Status Married
Occupation Agricultural Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1830
Birthplace Sutton Bonington, Nottinghamshire
Entry Number 3
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/3259/0141
Household


Eli Hallam Head M 41 Sutton Bonington, Nottinghamshire
Rebecca Hallam Wife F 43 Long Whatton, Leicestershire
John Hallam Son M 10 Sutton Bonington, Nottinghamshire
Arthur Hallam Son M 8 Sutton Bonington, Nottinghamshire<<<<<<
Frederick Hallam Son M 5 Sutton Bonington, Nottinghamshire
Eli Hallam Son M 3 Sutton Bonington, Nottinghamshire


possible marriage for parents??

Marriages Dec 1849
Cumberland Rebecca Shardlow 19 655 <<<<<<<<<<<
Hallam Eli Shardlow 19 655 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hallam Frances Shardlow 19 655
Hudson Peter Shardlow 19 655
Noble Anne Shardlow 19 655
Parker Sarah Shardlow 19 655
TONGUE Samuel Shardlow 19 655
Wade Thomas Shardlow 19 655

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 23 Oct 2017 08:41

Walter and Sarah are still living next door to Arthur in 1945:

Electoral register:

1945- 98 Parnell Road, Poplar
Arthur Hallam
Edith Hallam

1945- 100 Parnell Road, Poplar
Mary Powles
Sarah A Powles
Walter Powles

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 23 Oct 2017 08:29

Just adding - in 1925/ 26 a Walter Powles and Sarah Ann Powles were living at 100 Parnell Road.

Looks like it may have been a relation.

This is their marriage:

First name(s) Walter
Last name Powles
Marriage year 1908
Parish Register Office
Place Shardlow
Spouse's first name Sarah Ann
Spouse's last name Hallam
Reference SD/16/082
Register Office 394
County Derbyshire
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This is them in 1911:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Draycott Road Breaston Derby, Breaston, Derbyshire, England

Walter Powles Head Married Male Shunter 25 1886 London Bow
Sarah Ann Powles Wife Married Female - 25 1886 Derbyshire Breaston
George Alvey Boarder Single Male Waggoner On Farm 21 1890 Nottingham
George Howe Boarder Single Male Waggoner On Farm 20 1891 Derbyshire Thurston Marsh
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It appears that Sarah was Arthur's sister:

Births:
HALLAM, SARAH ANN (Mother's maiden name: STEVENSON )
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in SHARDLOW Volume 07B Page 514
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This is Sarah in 1891 (in 1901 she's living with the Drake family as a servant- hence why she does appear in the 1901 census with Arthur jnr):

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Main Street, Breaston, Shardlow, Derbyshire, England

Arthur Hallam Head Married Male 28 1863 Agricultural Labourer Leicestershire, England
Sarah Hallam Wife Married Female 28 1863 - -
Lizzie Hallam Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Derbyshire, England
Sarah Hallam Daughter - Female 6 1885 - Derbyshire, England
Emma Hallam Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Derbyshire, England
Mary Hallam Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Derbyshire, England
John Keeves Lodger Widower Male 63 1828 Living On Own Means Derbyshire, England

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 23 Oct 2017 07:17

Darn it! So the information was already given :-(

And the info posted by ChristinaS matches the birth date given on the 1939 register- confirming the correct man:

Royal Naval Division Service Records 1914-1920

First name(s) Arthur
Last name Hallam
Birth 6 Dec 1896
Address Draycott Lane, Breaston, Derby
Service number Z/4773
Service Royal Naval Division
National Archives Reference ADM339
Record set Royal Naval Division Service Records 1914-1920

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Oct 2017 07:06

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334214?d=asc

(not sure if anything on above relating)

Chris :)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 23 Oct 2017 07:02

I suspect that Arthur was just staying at the address at the time of his marriage and may not have been his family address (there were no Hallams registered there in 1926). This is 1926 electoral register:

1926- 100 Parnell Road, Poplar
Sarah Ann Powles
Walter Powles

1926- 102 Parnell Road, Poplar
John Alcock
Eliza Palmer
------------------------------

Have you considered that Arthur may have been born outside London?

There is this Arthur which fits the info given (Arthur senior being a Gardener, deceased in 1926- marriage cert on Ancestry):

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Draycott Road Breaston Derby, Breaston, Derbyshire, England

Arthur Hallam Head Married Male Gardener 49 1862 Sutton Bonnington
Sarah Ann Hallam Wife Married Female - 48 1863 Derby
Nellie Hallam Daughter Single Female - 19 1892 Breaston Derbyshire
Rebecca Hallam Daughter Single Female Slip Winder 17 1894 Breaston Derbyshire
Arthur Hallam Son - Male Shop Lad 14 1897 Breaston Derbyshire
Frederick Hallam Son - Male - 13 1898 Breaston Derbyshire
John William Hallam Son - Male - 12 1899 Breaston Derbyshire
Harriet Hallam Daughter - Female - 8 1903 Breaston Derbyshire
Thomas Hallam Son - Male - 5 1906 Breaston Derbyshire
-----------------------------------

According to the 1939 register, your Arthur was born 6th December 1896- this fits with this birth registered first qtr of 1897:

HALLAM, ARTHUR (Mother's maiden name: STEVENSON)
GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in SHARDLOW Volume 07B Page 520

(Note Breaston registers in Shardlow district)
--------------------------------

This is Arthur senior death:

Death:
First name(s) ARTHUR
Last name HALLAM
Gender Male
Birth year 1863
Age 54
Death quarter 1
Death year 1917
District Shardlow
County Derbyshire
Volume 7B Page 671

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 23 Oct 2017 04:04

thank you Safc i have the marriage cert for arthur hallam and edith palmer,,, it says that his dad was deceased, at the time of authurs marraige was living at 100 parnell road and edith was living at 102 parnell road,, i was hoping to get infor say nearer 1911 or 1901 then i might have a chance of finding out about arthur senior,, arthur w hallam was the third arthur in a row , hope i am making some sence and thank you

safc

safc Report 23 Oct 2017 03:31

Births Sep 1928 (>99%)
Hallam Arthur W Palmer Poplar 1c 492

safc

safc Report 23 Oct 2017 03:30

????


Marriages Sep 1926 (>99%)
Bedwell Frederick Green Poplar 1c 800
Green Alice V E Bedwell Poplar 1c 800
Hallam Arthur Palmer Poplar 1c 800
Palmer Edith E Hallam Poplar 1c 800

safc

safc Report 23 Oct 2017 03:26

????


Arthur Hallam on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Hallam Household (6 People) 98 Parnell Road , Poplar, London, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Arthur Hallam ? Oct 1895 Male Shear Leg Man Water Gas Piper Heavy Worker Married 34 1
Edith (E) Hallam 29 Oct 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 34 2
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Arthur W Hallam 15 Jul 1928 Male - Single 34 3

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 23 Oct 2017 00:32

where do i start i have an address's i want to find the occupants of , but not sure how to go about this ,,,, 100 and 102 Parnell Road, London
100 parnell road will be the hallam family i am in need of finding out about the head as it will be the only way to track back on this one,
arthur hallam was wed in 1926 aged 29 from this address and his father was arthur hallam deceased,