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7 Oct 2017 07:41 |
I am trying to find what happened to 3 children of Clara Bull (Nee Smith).
Clara Smith c 1866, Speen, Berkshire, married James Frederick Bull ,1867, Bloomsbury, London.
They had 3 children - James Frederick, 1894, Ilsley, Berks, Edith Susan, 1897 & Francis George, 1897, both born Pewsey, Wilts.
James (Snr) d 1900 and Clara d1901, leaving 3 orphaned children.
Clara is sister to my great grandfather.
I cannot find them 1901 onwards ...!!
Can anyone please help??
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AustinQ
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7 Oct 2017 08:20 |
Edith in 1911:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Ball Pewsey Wiltshire, Pewsey, Wiltshire, England
Young King Head Married Male Retired Plumber 58 1853 Pewsey Wilts Sarah King Wife Married Female Dress And Mantle Maker 58 1853 Pewsey Wilts Dora Fanny King Daughter Single Female Dress Maker Etc 23 1888 Pewsey Wilts William Robert King Son Single Male Accountant Student 17 1894 Pewsey Wilts Edith Sousan Bull Boarder Single Female School 13 1898 Woodboro Wilts Edwin Crofts Servant Single Male Farm Labourer Cowman 23 1888 Emmington Somerset --------------------
Francis 1911??
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Oare Pewsey, Wilcot, Wiltshire, England
Caroline Hiscock Head Widow Female None 59 1852 Oare Francis Bull Boarder - Male School 14 1897 Woodborough Sidney Head Boarder - Male School 12 1899 Pewsey
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7 Oct 2017 08:24 |
Nice photo of James on this record (FMP):
Britain, merchant seamen
First name(s) James Fredk Last name Bull Event year 1918 Birth year 1894 Birth place Compton Birth county/country Berkshire Birth date 27 Nov 1894 Discharge number 603910 Identity certificate number 428026 Card type CR10 Archive The National Archives Series BT350 Date range 1918-1921 Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
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7 Oct 2017 08:25 |
James 1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 88, New Church Road, Camberwell, London & Surrey, England
Jane E Wakefield Head Married Female 33 1868 - Suffolk, England Charles Wakefield Son Single Male 6 1895 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Edith Wakefield Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Camberwell, Surrey, Harry Wakefield Son Single Male 0 1901 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Isaac Hyams Visitor Married Male 21 1880 General Dealer Brixton, Surrey, Lucy M Hyams Visitor Married Female 21 1880 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England Philip Hyams Visitor Single Male 3 1898 - Camberwell, Surrey, England James F Bull Visitor Single Male 6 1895 - Compton, Berkshire, England
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Chris Ho :)
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7 Oct 2017 08:30 |
Saw below...
Chris :)
National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Susan Edith Last name Bull Birth year 1897 Birth date 02 Sep 1897 Event year 1903 School name Woodborough Church of England School (of Pewsey Union Workhouse) (left 5/8/04. Back to Workhouse)
(no idea on below)
Deaths Mar 1976 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SAMUEL EDITH SUSAN 2SE1897 SURREY MID E 17 242
Edits (late edit!)
National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Minnis Last name Bull Birth year 1893 Birth date 14 Mar 1893 Event year 1899 School name Woodborough Church of England School Town Woodborough County Wiltshire Parent name(s) James Bull Book type Admissions (left 27/9/99. Left District)
First name(s) Fred Last name Bull Birth year 1894 Birth date 27 Nov 1894 Event year 1899 School name Woodborough Church of England School Town Woodborough County Wiltshire Parent name(s) James Bull (20/3/00. Left District)
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AustinQ
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7 Oct 2017 08:32 |
Could this be Edith in 1901- also in Camberwell?
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 94, New Church Road, Camberwell, London & Surrey, England
Robert H C Garrett Head Married Male 26 1875 Duke Of Cambridge Own Impl Yeomanry Lambeth, Surrey, Susannah R Garrett Wife Married Female 24 1877 - Bloomsbury, Middlesex, Robert H Garrett Son Single Male 1 1900 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Jane H Bull Mother-In-Law Married Female 58 1843 Worker In Laundry Devizes, Wiltshire, England Lizzie M Bull Sister-In-Law Single Female 19 1882 Chocolate Packer Caversham, Berkshire Edith S Bull Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Pusey, Wiltshire, England
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AustinQ
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7 Oct 2017 08:38 |
Possible death for Mum:
Name: Clara Elizabeth Bull Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Registration Year: 1901 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 34 Registration district: Newbury Inferred County: Berkshire Volume: 2c Page: 178 -----------------------
Berkshire Burial Index
First name(s) Clara Elizabeth Last name Bull Age 34 Birth year 1867 Residence Speenhamland Death year 1901 Burial date 27 Mar 1901 Church St Mary the Virgin Place Speen County Berkshire
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Chris Ho :)
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7 Oct 2017 08:38 |
(lol, well just added a possible Death above AQ, Surrey, so could well be)
Chris :)
(although not jumping out 1939, or a Marriage, and must be orf' now, will look in later!)
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patchem
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7 Oct 2017 08:48 |
Think Francis was born in 1896 - helps in identification: Births June quarter 1896 Bull Francis George Pewsey 5a 157
Added: Possible death? Deaths Sep 1954 Francis G Bull age 58 Paddington 5d 177
Added: In Stoke in 1939 with Maude, 2 others, and 2 private?
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patchem
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7 Oct 2017 08:56 |
f him in 1939 then: Marriages Dec 1921 Bettany Maud Bull Stoke T 6b 361 Bull Francis G Bettany Stoke T. 6b 361
4 children born showing on free bmd.
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AustinQ
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7 Oct 2017 08:56 |
Wondered about this for Francis in 1901- meaning all children in Lambeth 1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 43, Chancer Road, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England
Thomas H Connorton Head Married Male 28 1873 Groom (Domestic) Chelsea, Middlesex, Laura M Connorton Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Kensington, Middlesex, England Robert G Connorton Son - Male 1 1900 - Brixton, Surrey, England Francis G Bull Adopted Son - Male 4 1897 - Compton, Surrey, England
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AustinQ
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7 Oct 2017 09:23 |
On Ancestry there appears to be another child registered-
BULL, MINNIE mmn: SMITH GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in WANTAGE Volume 02C Page 312
The registry of birth has her DOB as 16 March 1893 Compton. Record also includes a copy of parent's marriage certificate. -------------------------------
There is also a registry of birth for James Frederick Bull born 27 November 1897- which fits the seaman's record I posted above.
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AustinQ
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7 Oct 2017 09:34 |
Minnie's baptism:
First name(s) Minnie Last name Bull Baptism year 1893 Baptism date 28 May 1893 Place Compton Church St Mary & St Nicholas Child's other details [Born] 16 Mar Relationship daughter of Father's name James Frederick Bull Father's occupation Signalman Mother's name Clara Elizabeth Bull County Berkshire -------------------------- James Baptism:
First name(s) James Frederic Last name Bull Baptism year 1895 Baptism date 24 Feb 1895 Place Compton Church St Mary & St Nicholas Child's other details [Born] 27Nov1894 Relationship son of Father's name James Frederic Bull Father's occupation Signalman Mother's name Clara Elizabeth Bull County Berkshire
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AustinQ
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7 Oct 2017 09:36 |
Another child:
First name(s) Alfred White Last name Bull Baptism year 1901 Baptism date 02 Jan 1901 Place Speenhamland Church St Mary Child's other details [Born] 30Jan1900 Relationship [son of] Father's name James Frederick Bull Father's residence 3 Gilder's Square Father's occupation labourer Father note [Condition] (deceased) Mother's name Clara Bull Additional notes [Officiating Minister] Charles L. JEAYES ------------------------------
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7, Oxford Street Gilder Square, Newbury, Berkshire, England
Alfred Swain Head Married Male 53 1848 Bricklayer Egham, Surrey, England Harriet Swain Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Newbury, Berkshire, England Charles Swain Son Single Male 22 1879 General Labourer Newbury, Berkshire Alfred Swain Son Single Male 11 1890 - Newbury, Berkshire, England Louie Swain Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Newbury, Berkshire, England Edith Swain Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Newbury, Berkshire, England Rose Swain Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Newbury, Berkshire, England Kate Swain Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Newbury, Berkshire, England Alfred W Bull Lodger Single Male 1 1900 - Woodborough, Wiltshire, England -------------------------------------------
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Dursdens Lane Pewsey, Pewsey, Wiltshire, England
Charles Henry Hoare Head Married Male Dairy Farmer 63 1848 Wilton Wilts Rose Wakeling Hoare Wife Married Female - 55 1856 Chesterton Cambs Margaret Eleanor Bream Niece Single Female Domestic Help 23 1888 Bath Somerset Alfred White Bull Boarder - Male - 11 1900 Newbury Berks ------------------------------
FMP has nice photo attached:
Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services
Name: Alfred White Bull Gender: Male Birth Date: 30 Aug 1900 Birth Place: Pewsey Wilts First Service Date: 16 Aug 1917 First Ship Served On: Powerful Last Service Date: 13 Aug 1919 Last Ship Served On: Victory I Service Number: J76718 ----------------------------------------
1939: Bull Household Wandilup Blackmoor Road , Long Ashton R.D., Somerset, England Alfred W Bull 30 Jan 1900 Male Bearing Shaft Attendant Married Emmie M J Bull 04 Jul 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married Sorry, this record is officially closed. Victor B Bull 09 May 1926 Male At School Single Sorry, this record is officially closed. -------------------------------------
Death: Name: Alfred White Bull Death Age: 82 Birth Date: 30 Jan 1900 Registration Date: Sep 1982 Registration district: Bristol Inferred County: Avon Volume: 22 Page: 0464
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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7 Oct 2017 09:38 |
Name: Minnie Bull Age in 1911: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Newbury, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Newbury Search Photos: Search for 'Newbury' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: 27 Craven St, Newbury Marital Status: Single Occupation: General Servant Domestic Registration district: Newbury Registration District Number: 114 Sub-registration district: Newbury ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 296 Piece: 6370 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Dopson New 40 Annie New 41 Violet New 12 George New 11 Wilson New 7 Charles New 4 James New 2 Minnie Bull 18
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AustinQ
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7 Oct 2017 11:02 |
This looks to be James in the US- birth date/ Place matches (one year out):
United States Naturalization Petitions First name(s) James Frederick Or Fred Last name Bull Or Riley Birth year 1895 Birth date 27 Nov 1895 Birth country England Birth place as transcribed Newbury, Berkshire, England Event year 1944 Event type Declaration of intention Event state New York Event place as transcribed Brooklyn, Kings, NY Description Final petition and citizenship papers (New York), 1865-1958 Declaration 342875 Certificate 2-1064536 Country United States Record set United States Naturalization Petitions Photo included (FMP) -------------------------------------------
United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 Name James F Bull Event Type Draft Registration Event Date 1942 Event Place Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States Residence Place Brooklyn, Kings, New York Gender Male Employer James F/Bull Birth Date 27 Nov 1895
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AustinQ
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7 Oct 2017 13:15 |
In 1901 Edith is living with Robert and Susan Garrett- this is their marriage:
Name: Susannah Mary Bull Gender: Female Marriage Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1877 Marriage Date: 12 Sep 1897 Marriage Place: Emmanuel, Camberwell, Southwark, England Father: James Frederick Bull (coachman) Spouse: Robert Henry Charles Garrett Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: Thomas Henry Connorton & Annie Harriet Garrett ---------------------------
Note that Francis in 1901 was living with the witness Thomas Connorton. This is Thomas' marriage:
Name: Laura Mary Bull Gender: Female Marriage Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1874 Marriage Date: 18 Apr 1897 Marriage Place: Emmanuel, Camberwell, Southwark, England Father: James Bull (coachman) Spouse: Thomas Henry Connorton Register Type: Parish Register Witneses: George Connerton & Lucy Mary Bull
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Marcus
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7 Oct 2017 14:39 |
Wow ! Thanks so much to all of you for the volume of information found......
I was unaware of Minnie & Alfred in all of this!
Thanks again for all the hard work. More to be done I'm sure.......
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