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I can't find a Titus anywhere does seem strange?
Chris are you able in an attachment to send me the bit about Charles stealing,out the paper?
Eileen just got attachment Thankyou very much.

So Father as Titus on 1867 Charles Marriage?...

(would see Workhouse Admissions for Thrapston, to find more on those 3 there 1841 to start with, and does look to say 'Illegitimate' for boys on image)

Chris :)

(where is Titus, what does it give for him on Marriage Certs.?)

(and past 'Threads' from you looking also coming up on google)

Eileen I didn't get a document?Chris it gets worse? Looking back at what I have the reason I am confused as on the marriage for Charles it says father Titus and on one of the marriages for Rueben it says Titus but then on another marriage fot Rueben looking back on another thread he gave father as Charles? But then looking back as to when these 2 boys were born both been together on 51 census, their mother if she is Esther living as housekeeper in Northamptonshire , they were not very old maybe didn't even know their father looks like he proberly left them after they were born, in your opinions what woukd you go with as the parents? You have all been very helpful on this line of mine that has been bugging me for years?

(posted earlier in relation to their Son Albert (other 'Thread') who is Father on below Marriage?...

Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%)
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Hare Charles Horncastle 7a 860
MARSHALL Elizabeth Horncastle 7a 860


(reference)

1871 (Find My Past)
Charles Hare Head - Male 35 1836 - Northamptonshire (Brigstock) England (Master Chimney Sweep)
Elizabeth Hare Wife - Female 28 1843 - Lincolnshire, England
Ada Hare Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Lincolnshire, England
Ernest Hare Son - Male 1 1870 - Lincolnshire, England
Rose Hare Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Lincolnshire, England
Street Watermill Lane Angel Yard
Parish Horncastle
County Lincolnshire


Birth
HARE, ALBERT (MARSHALL)
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in HORNCASTLE Volume 07A Page 602


(seems you need Northamptonshire Archives to see below, says they hold. Workhouse, to see more for those, reference 1841 Thrapston)

(Hospital, workhouse and asylum records)

(also a more in depth look at Brigstock Records)


(and, as you know (and think I've posted a few times, lol) for Lincs. there is also below with Parish Records)

https://www.lincstothepast.com/


Edits

06 September 1867 - Stamford Mercury - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England

Marriage
At St. Mary's church, Horncastle, on the 3rd inst., (by the Rev W. H. Milner, Vicar) Mr. Charles Hare, to Miss Elizabeth Marshall.


21 July 1854 - Lincolnshire Chronicle - Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

Horncastle
Charles Hare, a sweep, was convicted of stealing 9 lbs. weight of lead, the property of James Banks Stanhope, Esq., and committed to prison for fourteen days hard labour, and to be once whipped.


(below, said you have)

Deaths Sep 1904 (>99%)
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HARE Charles 63 Horncastle 7a 313


08 October 1904 - Boston Guardian - Boston, Lincolnshire, England

Death
Horncastle - Sept. 27th, Charles Hare, 62.

On the GRO index, the Charles Hare whose death was registered in Peterbro' in 1844 was aged 16

The Charles Hare who died in 1844 was only 16 years old:

HARE, CHARLES 16 Order
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 15 Page 220

Dea x

Hope you got the document Eileen

GEORGE
Last name GEE
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1840
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ GEORGE GEE married one of these people
Eli Warren, Caroline Masters, Sophia Masters, Elizabeth Rodgers, Caroline Ennis
District Northampton
District number -
County Northamptonshire
Country England
Volume 15
Page 588
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Oops! Sorry ArgyllGran. I missed that :-)

I posted 1841 on page 1, although Ancestry's transcription doesn't include the Gees, who are on the image.

Charles is her son, aged 2 months, not her husband.

HARE, CHARLES mms MASTERS
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 15 Page 328


HARE, GEORGE mms MASTERS
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 15 Page 313

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Back
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Leicester Street, St Sepulchre, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

George Gee Male 25 1816 Northamptonshire, England
Sophia Gee Female 20 1821 Northamptonshire, England
Susannah Gee Female 0 1841 Northamptonshire, England
George Hare Male 2 1839 Northamptonshire, England
Charles Hare Male 0 1841 Northamptonshire, England
Ester Hare Female 20 1821 Northamptonshire, England

Sadly not,both of full age. But Ester was baptised 6/10/1816 daughter of Edward and Mary.At Creaton.
George registered Jan 1839 15/313,and young Charles JFM 1841 15/328,both in Northampton. I have not found a baptism for either.
Eileen

Eileen are you able to send me the certificate or put the link up for me to look at please?

Does it say how old Charles is Eileen please on his marriage?

Chris this is why I am finding this all very confusing, I tried to research this family a few years ago, just come back to it and still none the wiser. I know Charles is buried in Horncastle he died 1904 age 63 so that makes his birth 1841 so I sent for the birth certificate and it came back as Charles Hare and Esther nee Masters the parents, then Charles got married and he gave his father as Titas? I have the marriage certificate for that as well.So that confused me. I know from the 1851 census that there was a Charles in Horncastle with Reuben, so I was taking it that they were brothers I did find on the 1841 census these 2 were in the workhouse in Thrapston ... I also found Esther was with Charles on the 1841 so the other one I found for 1841 with Charles and Reuben was maybe not the right family.I also have the marriage certificate for Rueben giving his father in 1860 as Charles deceased? So I am still none the wiser , are Charles and Rueben brothers? Family history does stop you sleeping.

Marriage23/8/1838 St Sepulchre
Charles Hare bachelor Nurseryman father John Hare Hostler res, Lawrence St Northampton
Ester Masters spinster Father Edward Masters Mason Resident Hosts Cloves (??)
From Ancestry Certificate is on line.
Eileen

(wonders if below has got involved with the confusion somehow, lol)

Chris :)

1841 (Find My Past)
Thrapston Union Workhouse, Thrapston, Thrapston Union, Northamptonshire
Eyers Reuben (4) (Illegitimate)
Eyers Charles (2) (same)
Eyers Lucy (20) Lace Maker
(says all Born in County)


(if her)

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Lucy
Last name Eayers
Gender Female
Baptism year 1816
Baptism date 1816
Place Brigstock
County Northamptonshire
Father's first name(s) Barton
Father's last name Eayers
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth

(that reference)

Chris :)

County Northamptonshire
Place Northampton
Church name St Sepulchre
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 13 Mar 1864
Groom forename Richard
Groom surname AGER
Groom age full age
Groom condition widower
Groom abode Leicester St
Groom occupation grocer
Bride forename Bridget
Bride surname SEWELL
Bride age full age
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Leicester St
Groom father forename Ezekiel
Groom father surname AGER
Groom father occupation grocer
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname SEWELL
Bride father occupation castrator

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


All Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1912 (Ancestry)

Esther Ayres
abt 1817 28 Jun 1863 Northampton, St Sepulchre
(Abode, Leicester Street)

Reuben seems unsure of his place of birth. On some census Northamptonshire


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Stone Street, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England

Samuel Gowen Head Married Male 40 1811 Chimney Sweep Mastr 4 Boys Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
Elizabeth Gowen Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Bristol, Lancashire, England
Mary Gowen Daughter - Female 17 1834 House Servant Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
Eliza Gowen Daughter - Female 9 1842 - Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
John Baker Servant Unmarried Male 18 1833 Chimney Sweep Lancashire, England
Edwin Wagstaff Servant - Male 16 1835 Chimney Sweep Nottinghamshire, England
Reuben Hare Servant - Male 16 1835 Chimney Sweep Lancashire, England
Charles Hare Servant - Male 13 1838 Chimney Sweep Lancashire, England

?????

Reuben
Last name Hare
Sex Male
Age 32
Birth year 1841
Residence Louth Road
Marriage year 1873
Marriage date 25 Dec 1873
Marriage place Horncastle
Spouse's first name(s) Rachel
Spouse's last name Martin
Spouse's age 20
Spouse's residence Louth Road
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Titus
Father's last name Hare
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Martin
Page 187
Archive Lincolnshire Archives
Record set Lincolnshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
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