Hello, My name is Noel Swalling from Adelaide, South Australia. I am trying to find more information about Ann Down who was born, i believe, in Sampford Spiney, Devon c.1816. Her parents were Richard Down,a labourer and Mary Kennard. Mary was about 15 when Ann was born. Ann married a Levi Shaw from Keighley in Yorkshire on 15 August 1943 in the Parish Church, Stoke Demarel, Devon. In 1847 they migrated to Adelaide, South Australia in 1847. Levi died in October 1854 in an omnibus accident in Hindley Street, Adelaide when a horse bolted and he tried to jump free as the horses took off in panic. Ann lived until 1898 and died in Port Augusta at the top of St, Vincent`s Gulf aged 82. If anyone can help me find more info on Richard or Mary`s families it would be much appreciated. Sincerely, Noel Swalling
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well, Richard and Mary Kennard apparently did not marry until 1826, after Ann's birth if they are indeed her parents!
from FindMyPast ...............
Devon Marriages
First name(s) Richard Last name Down Marriage year 1826 Marriage date 11 Jan 1826 Spouse's first name(s) Mary Spouse's last name Kennard Denomination Anglican Parish Halwill Place Halwill County Devon Archive South West Heritage Trust Record set Devon Marriages Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, United Kingdom
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Banns called November 1825
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??? Ann Down with family in the 1841 Census?????
1841 Census
Name: Ann Down Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1817 Gender: Female Where born: Devon, England Civil Parish: Sampford Spiney Hundred: Roborough County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Tavistock Sub-registration district: Buckland Monachorum
Piece: 241 Book: 1 Folio: 11 Page Number: 17
Richd Down 40 Ag Lab Mary Down 40 Ann Down 24 Wool Dresser John Down 15 Charles Down 10 Mary Down 10 Jane Down 5
Address:- Green
NOTE:- all ages were supposed to be rounded down to nearest 5 on the 1841.
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???? children of Ann and Levi??
SHAW, FREDERICK DOWN mmn DOWN GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in TAVISTOCK UNION Volume 09 Page 500
SHAW, MARY JANE mmn DOWN GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in TAVISTOCK UNION Volume 09 Page 465
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Richd Down 40 Ag Lab Mary Down 40 Ann Down 24 Wool Dresser John Down 15 Charles Down 10 Mary Down 10 Jane Down 5
There is a big age range between the children.
The marriage to Mary Kennard took place on 11 January 1826
I'm going to propose that Mary Kennard was Richard's second wife, and that Ann (and possibly John) was the child of the first wife who may or may not have been called Mary
This supposition may or may not be helped by the fact that the 1851 Census shows another child, Danial. Richard is a widower..........
1851 Census
Name: Richard Down Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Milton Abbot, Devon, England Civil Parish: Sampford Spiney County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Tavistock Sub-registration district: Buckland ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 74 Piece: 1883 Folio: 212 Page Number: 21
Richard Down Widower, Ag Lab Danial Down 30 b.ca 1821, Whitchurch, Devon, Ag Lab Charles Down 24 b.ca 1827, Whitchurch, Ag Lab Jane Down 17 b.ca 1834, Helston, Cornwall
Address:- Honabridge
By 1861, Richard appears to have re-married
1861 Census
Name: Richard Down Age: 60 Estimated birth year: 1801 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maryam Down Gender: Male Where born: Milton Abbot, Devon, England Civil Parish: Sampford Spinney County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Tavistock Sub-registration district: Buckland Monachorum ED, institution, or vessel: 12d
Household schedule number: 91 Piece: 1458 Folio: 54 Page Number: 21
Richard Down 60 Maryam Down 50 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Maryann on image Henry Down 16 Mary Down 13 Louisa Down 7 William Herdina 45 Lodger Thomas Hellings 50 Lodger
Address:- Green
from FindMyPast ..........
Devon Marriages
First name(s) Richard Last name Down Denomination Anglican Age 55 Birth year 1797 Marriage year 1852 Marriage date 20 Apr 1852 Marriage place Sampford Spiney Father's first name(s) Simon Father's last name Down Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann Spouse's last name Down Spouse's age 42 Spouse's birth year 1810 Spouse's father's first name(s) John Spouse's father's last name Mortimore County Devon Country England Page 23 Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Marriages Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, United Kingdom
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Richard Widower Labourer Address:- Honabridge (??spelling) Father:- Simon Down, Labourer
Mary Ann Widow no occupation shown Address:- Honabridge (??? sp) Father:- John Mortimore, Labourer
Witnesses:- William Howe and Jane Down
Bride, groom and both witnesses were unable to write.
NOTE:- In the 1851 Census Mary Ann Down lived next door to Richard ..........
1851 Census
Name: Maryann Down Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Sampford Spiney, Devon, England Civil Parish: Sampford Spiney County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Tavistock Sub-registration district: Buckland ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 73 Piece: 1883 Folio: 212 Page Number: 21
Maryann Down 40 Sarah Down 17 Sophia Down 15 Francis Down 13 Elizabeth Down 11 Henry Down 5 Maryann Down 3
It looks as though Louisa age 7 on the 1861 Census could be Richard's child
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Maryann's first husband .........
Devon Marriages
First name(s) Mary Ann Last name Mortimore Age - Birth year - Marriage year 1832 Marriage date 30 Sep 1832 Denomination Anglican Place Plymouth, St Andrew Residence Saint Andrews. Plymouth Spouse's first name(s) Henry Spouse's last name Down Spouse's residence Saint Andrew. Plymouth County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Marriages Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, United Kingdom
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both of this Parish
Witnesses:- Joseph Kershaw and Catherine Lewis (her mark)
NOTE:- Both Henry and Mary Ann signed the Register
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Richard said his father's name was Simon on the marriage to Maryann
The birth year is too early, but could this possibly be his baptism?????
Devon Baptisms
First name(s) Richard Last name Down Birth year 1793 Birth date ? ? 1793 Baptism year 1793 Baptism date 30 Mar 1793 Denomination Anglican Place Milton Abbot Father's first name(s) Simon Mother's first name(s) Grace Mother's last name - County Devon Country England Archive reference 797/4 Page - Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Baptisms Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, United Kingdom
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Maryann with her first husband in 1841 .........
1841 Census
Name: Henry Down Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Devon, England Civil Parish: Cullompton Hundred: Hayridge County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration district: Tiverton and Dulverton Sub-registration district: Cullompton
Piece: 225 Book: 5 Folio: 19 Page Number: 32
Henry Down 30 Weaver Mary Ann Down 30 Sarah Down 7 Sophia Down 6 Francis Down 3 Elizabeth Down 1
Address:- Cow or Crow Green
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Think that could be below reference, from Genuki Devon...
Chris :)
large village of Horrabridge, which is partly in the parishes of Sampford-Spiney
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/BucklandMonachorum
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/MiltonAbbot/MarriagesGrooms1754
23-Jul 1780 Banns Simon DOWN of this Parish Signed Grace RETH of this Parish
23-May 1805 Banns Simon DOWN Widower of this Parish Signed Margaret LARK Spinster of the Parish of Lanteglos Cornwall
(and looks like 12 children for them on below)
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/MiltonAbbot/Baptisms1724
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/MiltonAbbot/Burials1653
6-Jan 1805 Grace DOWN
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Hello Sylvialn & Chris Ho, Thank you both for the information. i find it very helpful. I find it curious that Richard Down and Mary Kennard did not marry until 1826. I did find a marriage reference to a Mary Kennard marrying a William Irish in 1816 which does put a cat among the pigeons ! Perhaps this is another Mary Kenn ard, hopefully time will tell. Again, thank you both for your efforts. Noel Swalling Adelaide
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