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Sarah Jane Ratcliffe 1846 - Manchester ??

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Mark

Mark Report 26 Sep 2017 19:10

The above lady is the daughter of John Ratcliffe and Elizabeth Prestwich. I have her siblings as
Mary Ann - Emma - William H - Elizabeth - John - Edmund - Ellen and
Frederick

I have been unable to locate Sarah Jane in a census to hopefully establish a husband or further family. Many thanks

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Sep 2017 19:26

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1355025

http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1282543

(some references on above, relating)

Chris :)

(second one has below, added by lancashireAnn)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1846
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
RATCLIFFE Sarah Jane North Meols North Sefton LOWE NM/5/143


Marriage: 17 Jan 1832 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
John Ratcliffe - of this Parish
Elizabeth Lowe - of this Parish
Witness: Thomas Gorse; Edmund Lowe
Married by Banns by: Thos. Blackburne Vicar
Register: Marriages 1830 - 1833, Page 170, Entry 509
Source: Microfilm held at Manchester Central Library


Edits (your references)

Marriage: 19 Feb 1828 St Leonard, Middleton, Lancashire, England
John Ratcliffe - Weavr., this Parish
Elizabeth Prestwich - (X), Spinster, this Parish
Witness: James Butterworth; Wm. K. Hilton
Married by Banns with consent of parents by: James Archer Curate
Register: Marriages 1825 - 1830, Page 128, Entry 384
Source: LDS Film 1545701

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1869

RATCLIFFE Frederick HOLDEN Ellen Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/39/54

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


(from GRO Index)

Birth
RATCLIFFE, SARAH JANE (LOWEX)
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in ORMSKIRK Volume 21 Page 589

Birth
RATCLIFFE, FREDERICK JAMES (LOWE)
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in ORMSKIRK Volume 21 Page 651

Mark

Mark Report 26 Sep 2017 19:32

Her eldest brother Frederick married Ellen Holden and had 5 children

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Sep 2017 20:11

Frederick is with his father John in 1861 if this is them, Sarah not with them

so you are looking for her perhaps being a servant or with other relatives possibly

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hampsons Cottage, Cable Street, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England


John Ratcliffe Head Widower Male 50 1811 Tailor Manchester, Lancashire, England
Fredrick Ratcliffe Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Scholar Southport, Lancashire, England

malyon

malyon Report 26 Sep 2017 20:48

Sarah Jane Ratcliffe
mentioned in the record of George Swift and Sarah Jane Ratcliffe
Name
George Swift
Spouse's Name
Sarah Jane Ratcliffe
Event Date
27 Apr 1871
Event Place
Farnworth Near Prescot, Lancashire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Sep 2017 20:49

Poss for sister?

Marriage: 26 Oct 1857 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire, England
William Ridyard - 22, Painter & Plasterer, Bachelor, Halliwell
Mary Anne Ratcliffe - 24, Spinster, Halliwell
Groom's Father: John Ridyard, Joiner
Bride's Father: John Ratcliffe, Tailor
Witness: Thomas Grundy; Sarah Grundy
Married by Banns by: Francis H Coldwell Vicar
Register: Marriages 1855 - 1858, Page 196, Entry 391
Source: Microfilm held by Manchester Central Library

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
King Street, Upper, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England


William Ridyard Head - Male 36 1835 - Lancashire, England (Painter)
Mary Ridyard Wife - Female 37 1834 - Lancashire, England
Martha E Ridyard Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Lancashire,
William Ridyard Son - Male 11 1860 - Lancashire, England
John Ridyard Son - Male 9 1862 - Lancashire, England Transcription
James Ridyard Son - Male 8 1863 - Lancashire, England Transcription
Robert R Ridyard Son - Male 6 1865 - Lancashire, England
Mary A E Ridyard Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Lancashire, England
Thomas W Ridyard Son - Male 2 1869 - Lancashire, England
Annie J N Ridyard Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Lancashire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Sep 2017 20:54

Emma was with her sister in 1861

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Upper King Street, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England


William Ridgyard Head Married Male 26 1835 House Painter Southport, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Ridgyard Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Manchester, Lancashire,
Martha Ridgyard Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Southport, Lancashire, England
Henry Ridgyard Son - Male 1 1860 - Southport, Lancashire, England
Emma Ractliffe Servant - Female 16 1845 House Servant Southport, Lancashire, England <<<<

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Sep 2017 20:57

Other brothers

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Upper King Street, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England


William H Ratcliff Head Married Male 26 1835 House Painter Manchester, Lancashire, England T<<<<<<<
Mary Ann Ratcliff Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Southport, Lancashire, England
Richard H Ratcliff Son - Male 1 1860 - Southport, Lancashire, England T
John Ratcliff Brother Unmarried Male 20 1841 House Painter Southport, Lancashire, England <<<<<<
Martha Kenyon Servant Unmarried Female 18 1843 House Servant Sunton, Lancashire, England
Richard Green Brother Married Male 23 1838 Butler Birstall, Leicestershire, England
Diana Green Sister Married Female 25 1836 Dressmaker Montgomeryshire, Wales
Emily M Green Niece - Female 0 1861 - Southport, Lancashire, England Transcription
Thomas Slaress Lodger Unmarried Male 28 1833 House Joiner Cheshire, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Sep 2017 21:04

(think Mark needs to tell us what Certs. he has!, on another 'Thread' he states below)

Mark Report 9 Oct 2011 15:06

John 1809

Had the following Children:

Emma c1829
Mary 1834
Elizabeth 1838
John 1840

(does he mean for the Ratcliffe/Prestwich Marriage?)

Baptism: 2 Apr 1834 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Emma Ratcliffe - Daughter of John Ratcliffe & Elizabeth
Born: 24 Jul 1828
Abode: Manch.
Occupation: Tailor
Baptised by: H. Fielding
Register: Baptisms 1834, Page 176, Entry 1407
Source: LDS Film 2357018

Chris :)

(confusion reigns all round!)


Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
Holden Ellen Bolton 8c 386
RATCLIFFE Frederick Bolton 8c 386

(what details are on above?)

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Sep 2017 22:23

Not the Sarah marriage to Swift.

Marriage: 27 Apr 1871 St Luke (formerly St Wilfrid), Farnworth (Widnes), Lancashire, England
George Swift - 21, Farmer, Bachelor, Tarbuck
Sarah Jane Ratcliff - 21, Spinster, Bold
Bride's Father: William Ratcliff, Stonemason
Witness: George Ratcliffe; Elizabeth Burkinshaw
Married by Licence by: William Jeff, Minister
Register: Marriages 1865 - 1875, Page 136, Entry 272
Source: LDS Film 1655237

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Sep 2017 22:48

Marriage: 19 Jun 1865 St James, Birkdale, Lancashire, England
Thos. Houghton - (X), 23, Stone Mason, Bachelor, Birkdale
Eliz. Ratcliffe - 27, Dress Maker, Spinster, Birkdale
Groom's Father: Wm. Houghton, Wheelwright
Bride's Father: John Ratcliffe, Tailor
Witness: Matthew Houghton; Ellen Ratcliffe
Married by Banns by: B. Swift Incumbant
Register: Marriages 1857 - 1876, Page 150, Entry 299
Source: LDS Film 1657578

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Duke Street, Upper, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

Thomas Houghton Head - Male 26 1845 - Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Houghton Wife - Female 33 1838 - Lancashire, England
William H Houghton Son - Male 4 1867 - Lancashire, England
Ada E Houghton Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Lancashire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Sep 2017 23:03

Sarah was born 1846 December qtr so this could be her death?

RATCLIFFE, SARAH JANE 2 Order
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in ORMSKIRK Volume 21 Page 420

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Sep 2017 06:23

(could well be Rose, but the 1846 one has Mother Maiden Name of Lowe...Mark appears to be looking for children of John and Elizabeth Prestwich)...

Chris :)


Mark Report 18 Sep 2015 14:00

Trying to find out what happened to Sarah Jane Ratcliffe 1846. Sarah was the daughter of John Ratcliffe 1809-1869 and Elizabeth Prestwich c1809-1856.

Other siblings were

Mary Ann c1829
Emma 1831
William H 1836
Elizabeth 1836
John 1840
Edmund 1843
Ellen c1845
Sarah Jane - see above
Frederick J 1849

The children were born in various place including Manchester and Southport

Thanks in advance



(am sure he will inform us shortly!, mainly on what Certs. he has for facts)


Edits (sends out the call for lancashireAnn, is she about?, lol)

Rambling

Rambling Report 27 Sep 2017 11:29

Quite so Chris :-)

It would be good if Mark could say how he has worked back.