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26 Sep 2017 19:10 |
The above lady is the daughter of John Ratcliffe and Elizabeth Prestwich. I have her siblings as Mary Ann - Emma - William H - Elizabeth - John - Edmund - Ellen and Frederick
I have been unable to locate Sarah Jane in a census to hopefully establish a husband or further family. Many thanks
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26 Sep 2017 19:26 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1355025
http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1282543
(some references on above, relating)
Chris :)
(second one has below, added by lancashireAnn)
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1846 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference RATCLIFFE Sarah Jane North Meols North Sefton LOWE NM/5/143
Marriage: 17 Jan 1832 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England John Ratcliffe - of this Parish Elizabeth Lowe - of this Parish Witness: Thomas Gorse; Edmund Lowe Married by Banns by: Thos. Blackburne Vicar Register: Marriages 1830 - 1833, Page 170, Entry 509 Source: Microfilm held at Manchester Central Library
Edits (your references)
Marriage: 19 Feb 1828 St Leonard, Middleton, Lancashire, England John Ratcliffe - Weavr., this Parish Elizabeth Prestwich - (X), Spinster, this Parish Witness: James Butterworth; Wm. K. Hilton Married by Banns with consent of parents by: James Archer Curate Register: Marriages 1825 - 1830, Page 128, Entry 384 Source: LDS Film 1545701
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1869
RATCLIFFE Frederick HOLDEN Ellen Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/39/54
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
(from GRO Index)
Birth RATCLIFFE, SARAH JANE (LOWEX) GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in ORMSKIRK Volume 21 Page 589
Birth RATCLIFFE, FREDERICK JAMES (LOWE) GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in ORMSKIRK Volume 21 Page 651
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26 Sep 2017 19:32 |
Her eldest brother Frederick married Ellen Holden and had 5 children
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26 Sep 2017 20:11 |
Frederick is with his father John in 1861 if this is them, Sarah not with them
so you are looking for her perhaps being a servant or with other relatives possibly
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hampsons Cottage, Cable Street, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
John Ratcliffe Head Widower Male 50 1811 Tailor Manchester, Lancashire, England Fredrick Ratcliffe Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Scholar Southport, Lancashire, England
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26 Sep 2017 20:48 |
Sarah Jane Ratcliffe mentioned in the record of George Swift and Sarah Jane Ratcliffe Name George Swift Spouse's Name Sarah Jane Ratcliffe Event Date 27 Apr 1871 Event Place Farnworth Near Prescot, Lancashire, England
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26 Sep 2017 20:49 |
Poss for sister?
Marriage: 26 Oct 1857 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire, England William Ridyard - 22, Painter & Plasterer, Bachelor, Halliwell Mary Anne Ratcliffe - 24, Spinster, Halliwell Groom's Father: John Ridyard, Joiner Bride's Father: John Ratcliffe, Tailor Witness: Thomas Grundy; Sarah Grundy Married by Banns by: Francis H Coldwell Vicar Register: Marriages 1855 - 1858, Page 196, Entry 391 Source: Microfilm held by Manchester Central Library
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription King Street, Upper, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
William Ridyard Head - Male 36 1835 - Lancashire, England (Painter) Mary Ridyard Wife - Female 37 1834 - Lancashire, England Martha E Ridyard Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Lancashire, William Ridyard Son - Male 11 1860 - Lancashire, England John Ridyard Son - Male 9 1862 - Lancashire, England Transcription James Ridyard Son - Male 8 1863 - Lancashire, England Transcription Robert R Ridyard Son - Male 6 1865 - Lancashire, England Mary A E Ridyard Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Lancashire, England Thomas W Ridyard Son - Male 2 1869 - Lancashire, England Annie J N Ridyard Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Lancashire, England
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26 Sep 2017 20:54 |
Emma was with her sister in 1861
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Upper King Street, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
William Ridgyard Head Married Male 26 1835 House Painter Southport, Lancashire, England Mary Ann Ridgyard Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Manchester, Lancashire, Martha Ridgyard Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Southport, Lancashire, England Henry Ridgyard Son - Male 1 1860 - Southport, Lancashire, England Emma Ractliffe Servant - Female 16 1845 House Servant Southport, Lancashire, England <<<<
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26 Sep 2017 20:57 |
Other brothers
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Upper King Street, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
William H Ratcliff Head Married Male 26 1835 House Painter Manchester, Lancashire, England T<<<<<<< Mary Ann Ratcliff Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Southport, Lancashire, England Richard H Ratcliff Son - Male 1 1860 - Southport, Lancashire, England T John Ratcliff Brother Unmarried Male 20 1841 House Painter Southport, Lancashire, England <<<<<< Martha Kenyon Servant Unmarried Female 18 1843 House Servant Sunton, Lancashire, England Richard Green Brother Married Male 23 1838 Butler Birstall, Leicestershire, England Diana Green Sister Married Female 25 1836 Dressmaker Montgomeryshire, Wales Emily M Green Niece - Female 0 1861 - Southport, Lancashire, England Transcription Thomas Slaress Lodger Unmarried Male 28 1833 House Joiner Cheshire, England
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26 Sep 2017 21:04 |
(think Mark needs to tell us what Certs. he has!, on another 'Thread' he states below)
Mark Report 9 Oct 2011 15:06
John 1809
Had the following Children:
Emma c1829 Mary 1834 Elizabeth 1838 John 1840 (does he mean for the Ratcliffe/Prestwich Marriage?)
Baptism: 2 Apr 1834 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England Emma Ratcliffe - Daughter of John Ratcliffe & Elizabeth Born: 24 Jul 1828 Abode: Manch. Occupation: Tailor Baptised by: H. Fielding Register: Baptisms 1834, Page 176, Entry 1407 Source: LDS Film 2357018
Chris :)
(confusion reigns all round!)
Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Holden Ellen Bolton 8c 386 RATCLIFFE Frederick Bolton 8c 386
(what details are on above?)
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26 Sep 2017 22:23 |
Not the Sarah marriage to Swift.
Marriage: 27 Apr 1871 St Luke (formerly St Wilfrid), Farnworth (Widnes), Lancashire, England George Swift - 21, Farmer, Bachelor, Tarbuck Sarah Jane Ratcliff - 21, Spinster, Bold Bride's Father: William Ratcliff, Stonemason Witness: George Ratcliffe; Elizabeth Burkinshaw Married by Licence by: William Jeff, Minister Register: Marriages 1865 - 1875, Page 136, Entry 272 Source: LDS Film 1655237
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26 Sep 2017 22:48 |
Marriage: 19 Jun 1865 St James, Birkdale, Lancashire, England Thos. Houghton - (X), 23, Stone Mason, Bachelor, Birkdale Eliz. Ratcliffe - 27, Dress Maker, Spinster, Birkdale Groom's Father: Wm. Houghton, Wheelwright Bride's Father: John Ratcliffe, Tailor Witness: Matthew Houghton; Ellen Ratcliffe Married by Banns by: B. Swift Incumbant Register: Marriages 1857 - 1876, Page 150, Entry 299 Source: LDS Film 1657578
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Duke Street, Upper, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Thomas Houghton Head - Male 26 1845 - Lancashire, England Elizabeth Houghton Wife - Female 33 1838 - Lancashire, England William H Houghton Son - Male 4 1867 - Lancashire, England Ada E Houghton Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Lancashire, England
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26 Sep 2017 23:03 |
Sarah was born 1846 December qtr so this could be her death?
RATCLIFFE, SARAH JANE 2 Order GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in ORMSKIRK Volume 21 Page 420
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27 Sep 2017 06:23 |
(could well be Rose, but the 1846 one has Mother Maiden Name of Lowe...Mark appears to be looking for children of John and Elizabeth Prestwich)...
Chris :)
Mark Report 18 Sep 2015 14:00
Trying to find out what happened to Sarah Jane Ratcliffe 1846. Sarah was the daughter of John Ratcliffe 1809-1869 and Elizabeth Prestwich c1809-1856.
Other siblings were
Mary Ann c1829 Emma 1831 William H 1836 Elizabeth 1836 John 1840 Edmund 1843 Ellen c1845 Sarah Jane - see above Frederick J 1849
The children were born in various place including Manchester and Southport
Thanks in advance
(am sure he will inform us shortly!, mainly on what Certs. he has for facts)
Edits (sends out the call for lancashireAnn, is she about?, lol)
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27 Sep 2017 11:29 |
Quite so Chris :-)
It would be good if Mark could say how he has worked back.
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