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Sheila

Sheila Report 23 Sep 2017 20:14

I have Mary Ann Docker b.1865 Aston, she married Robert Schenker 15/4/1895 in Aston. I have found the family on the 1901 census. But on the 1911 census I can only find Robert with his cousin, I cannot find Mary Ann or the children.
Robert Schenker was born in Switzerland 1871.

Can you help me please?

Sheila

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2017 20:33

Could this be her death?

First name(s) MARY
Last name SCHENKEL
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1865
Age 72
Death quarter 1
Death year 1937
District Birmingham
County Warwickshire
Volume 6D
Page 310

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2017 20:35

For reference.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, The Crescent, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Schenkel Head Married Male 30 1871 Masseur Hydropathist Switzerland
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Marie Schenkel Wife Married Female 34 1867 - Aston, Warwickshire, England
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Tesibra G Schenkel Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Robert E Schenkel Son Single Male 3 1898 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Herbert A Schenkel Son Single Male 0 1901 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Arthur Schenkel Cousin Single Male 17 1884 Assistant Hydropathist Switzerland
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William Cox Boarder Single Male 29 1872 Railway Clerk Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2017 20:38

There is this report in the paper.

A separation order was granted to Marie Schenkel, Belgraveroad, at the Birmingham Police Court yesterday from Robert Schenkel, carrying on business as masseur at 10, The Crescent, her husband, on ground of desertion, maintenance being fixed at 10s a week but no order being made as to the 3 children in the case.

17 July 1906 - Birmingham Daily Gazette - Birmingham, West Midlands, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2017 20:43

This may be Robert remarrying.

First name(s) ROBERT
Last name SCHENKEL
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1937
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ROBERT SCHENKEL married
Alice Taylor
Spouse's last name Taylor
District Birmingham
District number -
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Page 863


and he dies the same year.

safc

safc Report 23 Sep 2017 20:47

SCHENKEL, RAYMOND GEORGE DOCKER Order
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 169

safc

safc Report 23 Sep 2017 20:48

Deaths Sep 1907 (>99%)
Schenkel Raymond George 0 Aston 6d 170

safc

safc Report 23 Sep 2017 20:52

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
36 Doidge Road Erdington, Erdington, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Walter Arthur Ellridge Boarder Single Male Electrical Engineer Tester 21 1890 Islington London
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Mary Annie Schenkel Head Married Female Housekeeper 35 1876 Birmingham

under 35 looks like 45

married 16 years 4 born 3 living 1 died

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2017 20:56

Is Herbert A really Herbert J?

1939 Register

Schenkel Household (3 People) 108 Bristol Road , Birmingham C.B., Warwickshire, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Herbert John Schenkel 16 Feb 1901 Male Masseur & Electrical Theropist (Heavy Worker) Married 244 1
Agnes Margaret (Marguerite) Schenkel 11 Apr 1902 Female Housewife (Unpaid Domestic Dutie Married 244 2
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HERBERT J
Last name SCHENKEL
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1922
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ HERBERT J SCHENKEL married
Agnes M Clayton
Spouse's last name Clayton
District Willesden
District number -
County Middlesex
Country England
Volume 3A
Page 682

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2017 21:00

Robert Ernest.

1939 register

Schenkel Household (6 People) 616 Warwick Road , Solihull U.D., Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Robert E Schenkel 25 Nov 1897 Male Tyre Examiner Develop Rubber Heavy Worker Married 26 1
Greta C Schenkel 03 Mar 1905 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 26 2
Valerie E Schenkel 25 Jul 1935 Female At School Single 26 3
Sarah A Wait 22 Jan 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 26 4
Elsie M Wait 29 Nov 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 26 5
Enid M M Robinson 04 Jul 1909 Female Secondary School Teacher Single 26 6



England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

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First name(s) ROBERT E
Last name SCHENKEL
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1934
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ROBERT E SCHENKEL married
Greta C Wait
Spouse's last name Wait
District Gosport
District number -
County Hampshire
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 1729

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Sep 2017 21:02

SCHENKEL, HERBERT JOHN mmn DOCKER Order
GRO Reference: 1901 M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 25

Sheila

Sheila Report 23 Sep 2017 21:14

Alviegal,

Thank you for your help.
I found Robert's will and saw that he left his estate to widow Alice.
I presume that that he re-married immediately after the death of Mary.

Sheila

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2017 21:16


England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

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First name(s) JESSICA GLADYS
Last name SCHENKEL
Birth year 1896
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District Solihull
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Page 570

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Sep 2017 21:17

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4176066

(Description:
Nationality and Naturalisation: Schenkel, Robert, from Switzerland. Resident in Birmingham. Certificate 9,681 issued 15 January 1923.)

(not sure if above is him)

Chris :)

Sheila

Sheila Report 23 Sep 2017 21:17

Thank you to everyone who has answered my query'

Sheila

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2017 21:33

A wee snippet in the paper put in by Robert.

R. SCHENKEL, of City Hydro, 205. CORPORATION STREET, gives Notice that he IS NOT A GERMAN, and proceedings will taken through his Solicitor against anyone circulating rumours to the effect that he is of German nationality, he being Swiss.

16 February 1915 - Birmingham Mail - Birmingham, West Midlands, England