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Ian Fraser Allan

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Margaret

Margaret Report 20 Sep 2017 08:56

Looking for my grandfather Ian Fraser Allan who was born in America in 1893 to Scottish parents who returned to Scotland before the 1911 census how do I find a birth certificate for him?

Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Sep 2017 11:48

do you have any other information, no such name showing up on ancestry or family search
this from fmp or did he retun to scotland

1940 US Census Transcription
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Household Members
Birth place First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital Status Gender Age Birth year
Pennsylvania Edwin Scott Head Married Male 63 1877
Transcription
Kansas Pearl Scott Wife Married Female 51 1889
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Kansas Ian Allen Brother-in-law Single Male 49 1891
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Kansas Joe Scott Son Single Male 12 1928
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Kansas Allan Scott Son Single Male 10 1930

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Sep 2017 13:44

This is the only Ian Allan showing in the 1911 census in Scotland of the right age +/- 2 years. There is not an equivalent c8 yr old in 1901 same RD

Surname Forename Year Gender Age at Census Ref RD Name County/ City
ALLAN
IAN
1911
M
18
651/ 51/ 1
Airdrie or New Monkland
Lanark

You would need the Scotlands People website to look at the full 1911 census as it's not available to view elsewhere. It's a buy credits site - very reasonable cost.

I'm not clear from your OP whether it was just the parents who returned to Scotland prior to 1911 or whether he also returned ?

And it doesn't help you with a BC

Kay????

Kay???? Report 20 Sep 2017 15:26

He maybe on Ancestry incoming passenger list ?

Andrew

Andrew Report 20 Sep 2017 16:03

???

Marriage from Scotlandspeople

ALLAN
IAN FRASER

CRAWFORD
MARY WILLIAMSON
1913
651/ 247
247
Airdrie or New Monkland


Death?

ALLAN
IAN FRASER
27
1919
644/4 1128
Dennistoun

Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Sep 2017 16:09

Not seeing him at all with the info given

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Sep 2017 18:32

In the UK, there is no central BMD registery - it is the country's responsibility.
The same system was exported to the US colonies, so BMD's are left to the states.
This also holds for the Australian colonies/states and the Canadian colonies/provinces.

Depending on where and why his family were in the US, there's a better than even chance his birth-state had no civil rego of births.

The federal US census was nominally on 1 June 1830-1900 nnd 15/4/1910.
Some states did have state censuses midway between the federal census.
The US 1890 census was 99.9% destroyed by fire.

For US records, a free site, often with images (including the federal census) is:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 21 Sep 2017 10:07

Greyghost posted the 1911 census index in Airdrie

*Ian Allan age 18*

Also listed on same index: 651/ 51/ 1


Robert Allan age 48
Jane Allan age 44
James Allan age 21

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Sep 2017 22:06

Welcome to the boards, Margaret.

Do you know where the family lived in the USA?
Did Ian have any siblings?
What were his parents' names?


Any of these details might help our search - though nothing is jumping out at us so far.