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Could anyone please help me find Sarah Staff's parents Sarah.was b.1852 Hull Looked at 2 census and her birth cert. but No parents mentioned on them She m. Richard Brewer In Hull 1868.
Thank You Sue
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George are you sure she was born 1852 if she married 1868, she would only have been 14/15 not impossible but perhaps unlikely?
for ref
Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
Brewer Richard Hull 9d 379
STAFF Sarah Ann Hull 9d 379
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Yorkshire Marriages Transcription
Print transcription View image
First name(s) Richard
Last name Brewer
Age 21
Birth year 1847
Occupation Fisherman
Marital status B
Residence Adelaide Street
Marriage year 1868
Marriage date 23 Dec 1868
Marriage place Hull, St James
By licence or by banns B
Spouse's first name(s) Sarah Anne
Spouse's last name Staff
Spouse's age 18
Spouse's birth year 1850
Spouse's residence Osborne Street
Spouse's marital status S
Father's first name(s) Henry Kemp Brewer
Father's occupation Mariner
Spouse's father's first name(s) George Staff
Spouse's father occupation Mariner
Witness 1 William Petty
Witness 2 Margaret Staff
County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Country England
Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service
Archive reference PE160/19
Page 179
Record set Yorkshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
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?STAFF, SARAH ANN BRIGHTON Order
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in KINGSTON UPON HULL Volume 22 Page 486
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(that would be below, for details)
Chris :)
County Lincolnshire
Place Gainsborough
Church name All Saints
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 02 Jun 1850
Groom forename George
Groom surname STAFF
Bride forename Sarah Ann
Bride surname BRIGHTON
Groom father forename Robert
Groom father surname STAFF
Bride father forename John
Bride father surname BRIGHTON
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
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Which Birth Cert. have you looked at?...
(bit confused!)
Chris :)
(no more relating 'Threads' are there George?, I know a few Brewer have been about!)
(apologies should be Sue)
Edits
1891 (Find My Past)
Richard Brewer Head Married Male 43 1848 Fisherman Suffolk, England
Sarah A Brewer Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Yorkshire, England
George W Brewer Son - Male 16 1875 Fisher Lad Yorkshire, England
Sarah A Brewer Daughter - Female 13 1878 - Yorkshire, England
John R Brewer Son - Male 8 1883 - Yorkshire, England
Laura L Brewer Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Yorkshire, England
Ethel B Brewer Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Yorkshire, England
Beecroft Street, Newington, Sculcoates, Yorkshire
(I have a 'tick' coming up on FMP, as 'viewed before')
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1294538
(John Richard Brewer 1883)
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Possible second marriage for George?
Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
STAFF George Sculcoates 9d 343
Wadsworth Sarah A Sculcoates 9d 343
children here have mmn Wadsworth
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14, Waltham Street, Kingston upon Hull Holy Trinity and St Mary, Hull, Yorkshire, England
Sarah Staff Wife Head Married Female 44 1837 S S Firemans Wife Hull, Yorkshire, England
George Staff Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire, England
Mary H Staff Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire, England
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When Richard and Sarah married one of the witnesses was Margaret Staff.
from the other thread
1861
Name: Sarah Ann Staff
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Hull Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 206
Piece: 3597
Folio: 38
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Staff 59
Margarett Staff 56 <<<<<<<
Margarett Staff 9 <<<<<
Henry Staff 7
Sarah Ann Staff 9
So maybe one of these Margarets was the witness?
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Thank You S000 Much" Your all absolutely BRILLIANT. If I could Just persuade you to help one more time. We will have completed All of the line of 16 Great Grandparents In my Tree.
(This is a Correction. Sorry Update on this message)
I have William Morris b. Wakefield 1849 (I hope) m. Elizabeth Drummond b. Bristol 1850 Date of m. not known, place not known. I've not got William Morris Parents, but Have Elizabeth Drummond now. I promise I will not ask any more questions, for a as long as it takes me to fill in my Family Tree Chart. "Thanks for your time and patients.
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not finding a marriage for William and Elizabeth
Elizabeth Drummond
England Births and Christenings
Name
Elizabeth Drummond
Residence Place
Bristol, Gloucester, England
Gender
Female
Christening Date
14 Apr 1850
Christening Date (Original)
14 Apr 1850
Christening Place
St. Philip and St. Jacob's, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father's Name
James Drummond
Mother's Name
Susan
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Elizabeth Drummond
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name
Elizabeth Drummond
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1851
Event Place
Saint Bridget, Cheshire, England
Registration District
Great Boughton
Gender
Female
Age
1
Relationship to Head of Household
Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated)
1850
Birthplace
Bristol, Gloucestershire
Page Number
35
Registration Number
HO107
Piece/Folio
2172 / 278
Affiliate Record Type
Household
Sex
Age
Birthplace
James Drummond
Head
M
30
Tutbury, Gloucestershire
Saran Drummond
Wife
F
30
Ipswich, Suffolk
John Drummond
Son
M
6
Woster, Worcestershire
Elizabeth Drummond
Daughter
F
1
Bristol, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Drummond
Mother
F
62
Ipswitch, Suffolk
James Smith
Lodger
M
34
Norwich, Norfolk
Caroline Smith
Lodger
F
27
Hull, Yorkshire
Marian Smith
Lodger
F
0
Newport, Monmouthshire
William Thampson
Lodger
M
28
Manchester, Lancashire
Susan Thompson
Lodger
F
34
, Buckinghamshire
Mary Thompson
Lodger
F
9
Manchester, Lancashire
John Birchill
Lodger
M
26
Oldham, Lancashire
Sarah Birchill
Lodger
F
24
Ireland
John Birchill
Lodger
M
2
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
George Birchill
Lodger
M
0
, Staffordshire
Samuel Barett
Lodger
M
20
Manchester, Lancashire
William Mullen
Lodger
M
20
Manchester, Lancashire
Mary Moren
Lodger
F
19
Manchester, Lancashire
Thomas Clark
Lodger
M
60
Scotland
Elizabeth Clark
Lodger
F
56
Scotland
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Would that be below?...
Chris :)
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1309079
Lynski Report 26 Aug 2012 03:35
groom's name: William Henry Morris groom's birth date: 1848
groom's age: 20
bride's name: Elizabeth Drummond
bride's birth date: 1851
bride's age: 17
marriage date: 1868
marriage place: Blackpool, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: Joshua Morris
bride's father's name: James Drummond
indexing project (batch) number: M16280-2
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1526144
Lynski Report 26 Aug 2012 02:50
For reference -
Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
BREWER John Fylde 8e 1155
MORRIS Susan Fylde 8e 1155
1911 census -
BREWER, Susan Wife Married3 years F 25 1886 Lane Blackpool
BREWER, John Son M 2 1909 Lane Blackpool VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 28641
Reference: RG14PN28641 RG78PN1646 RD521 SD4 ED31 SN125
Registration District: Sculcoates
Sub District: Hessle
Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Sculcoates
Address: 9 Elm Avenue Liverpool St Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding)
Could this be Susan with her father William Henry in 1891???????
MORRES, William H Head Married M 42 1849 Joiner Wakefield, Yorkshire
MORRES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 41 1850 Fancy Goods Dealer Bristol, Gloucestershire
MORRES, Joshua Son M 15 1876 Blackpool, Lancashire
MORRES, Eliza G Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Blackpool, Lancashire
MORRES, Susannah C Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Blackpool, Lancashire
LEACH, Ellen Single F 19 1872 Domestic Servant Blackpool, Lancashire
Piece: 3453
Folio: 42
Page: 20
Registration District: Fylde
Civil Parish: Layton with Warbreck
Municipal Borough: Blackpool
Address: 42, Charles Street, Layton With Warbreck, Blackpool
County: Lancashire
Edits
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name DRUMMOND
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1868
ELIZABETH DRUMMOND (married one of these people
William Henry Morris (John Fish)
District Fylde
County Lancashire
Volume 8E
Page 741
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
DRUMMOND Elizabeth MORRIS William Henry Blackpool, St.John Blackpool D/1/332
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1908
BREWER John MORRIS Susan Old Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackpool OFY/42/12
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
(if him as Henry on below)
1851 (Find My Past)
Joshua Morris Head Married Male 27 1824 White Smith (Journeyman) Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Eliza Morris Wife Married Female 28 1823 - Warmsworth, Yorkshire, England
Walter Morris Son - Male 5 1846 - Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Henry Morris Son - Male 2 1849 - Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Isabel Morris Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Parish Stanley with Wrenthorpe
City Wakefield
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Hamlet East Moor
Parliamentary borough Wakefield
Municipal ward Wakefield
Registration district Wakefield
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 2326
Folio 449
Page 7
Marriages Dec 1844 (>99%)
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GLOSSOP Eliza Doncaster 22 76
MORRIS Joshua Doncaster 22 76
Birth
MORRIS, WALTER (GLOSSOP)
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in DONCASTER Volume 22 Page 86
Birth
MORRIS, WILLIAM HENRY (GLOSSOP)
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in WAKEFIELD UNION Volume 22 Page 770
West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 (Ancestry)
Henry Morris
23 Jul 1848 Wakefield, All Saints
Joshua (occ. Whitesmith)
Eliza
(Abode, Providence Street)
Yorkshire Marriages Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Joshua
Last name Morris (Bachelor, occ. Whitesmith)
Age Of Full Age
Residence Cleveland ST
Marriage year 1844
Marriage date 22 Dec 1844
Marriage place Doncaster, St George
Spouse's first name(s) Eliza
Spouse's last name Glossop (Spinster)
Spouse's age Of Full Age
Spouse's residence Cleveland St
Father's first name(s) Walter
Father's last name Morris (occ. Weaver)
Spouse's father's first name(s) Mark
Spouse's father's last name Glossop (occ. Shoemaker)
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Archive Doncaster Archives
Archive reference P1/1/B8
Page 102
02 November 1867 - Leeds Times - Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
Marriage
On Thursday, at West-parade Chapel, Wakefield, by the Rev. Thomas Kent, Mr. Walter Morris, draper, Dewsbury, eldest son of Mr. Joshua Morris, of Blackpool, to Miss Harriett Kelly Northgate, Wakefield.
Marriage: 4 Feb 1868 St John the Evangelist, Blackpool, Lancashire, England
William Henry Morris - 20, Joiner, Bachelor, Blackpool
Elizabeth Drummond - 17, Spinster, Blackpool
Groom's Father: Joshua Morris, Gas fitter
Bride's Father: James Drummond, Dealer
Witness: William Stobart; Mary Parr
Married by: Neville Jones, Off. Min.
Register: Marriages 1836 - 1872, Page 166, Entry 332
Source: LDS Film 1526144
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
1861 (Find My Past)
Joshua Morris Head Married Male 37 1824 Gas Fitter & Bellhanger Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Eliza Morris Wife Married Female 36 1825 Gas Fitter & Bellhanger Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Walter Morris Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Scholar Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Henry Morris Son - Male 13 1848 Scholar Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Isabella Morris Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Stanley, Yorkshire, England
Gertrude Morris Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Blackpool, Lancashire, England
Louisa Morris Daughter - Female 2 1859 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
House number 34
Street Bank Hey Street
Parish Layton Warbreck
Town Blackpool
County Lancashire
Hamlet Blackpool
Ecclesiastical district St Johns
Registration district Fylde
Enumeration district 4
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 3148
Folio 67
Page number 27
Wakefield district baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Joshua
Last name Morris
Birth year 1823
Birth date 10 Oct 1823
Baptism year 1824
Baptism date 01 Mar 1824
Father's first name(s) Walter
Father's last name Morris
Father's occupation Stockinger
Father's residence Eastmoor
Mother's first name(s) Eliza
Mother's last name Morris
Mother's residence Eastmoor
Place Wakefield, All Saints
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Archive reference WDP 3/2/3
Society reference S 70
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"Thank you one and All", For your time, patience and expertise I shall now go through the info line by line and hopefully finish my chart line of 16 grand parents down to my 3 grand children. Then make copies and pass it on to family members.
Your help Much appreciated.
"Good Hunting"
Sue & George.
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Well, Good Luck to you both with it all, been 'round the houses' a bit with your Brewers etc. lol, from Gt. Yarmouth and beyond, but hopefully info. was correct. You'll be busy from now on then.
Now don't lose those copies, lol...
Chris :)
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