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Andrew
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15 Sep 2017 10:13 |
I have this entry from 1891
Name: Jane Crews Gender: Female Age: 38 Relationship: Cottage Mother Birth Year: 1853 Birth Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Ewell Ecclesiastical parish: Banstead Residence Place: Banstead, Ewell, Surrey, England Registration district: Epsom Sub registration district: Epsom ED, Institution or Vessel: Kensington and Clulsea District School and Cottage homes Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 547 Folio: 133
On the image there is something written in the 'where born' column over Bristol Gloucestershire.
I think it says St James A........ But what?
Anyone able to read it?
Andy
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greyghost
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15 Sep 2017 10:33 |
I can't make it out nor can I make it fit - but the St James' that comes up in Bristol if you google is - St James Catholic Priory Church. It's listed Grade 1 and in Horsefair, Whitson Street
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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15 Sep 2017 10:37 |
It is definately St James Have you got her on any other census?
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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15 Sep 2017 10:45 |
It could start with a B...l..
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15 Sep 2017 10:52 |
Its not Ban something?
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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15 Sep 2017 11:08 |
On other census she says she was born Cork Ireland.
1901 England Census
Name: Jane Crews Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: George Crews Birth Place: Cork, Ireland******************** Civil Parish: Malvern Link Search Photos: Search for 'Malvern Link' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Malvern Link St Matthias County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address:
Registration district: Upton on Severn Sub-registration district: Malvern ED, institution, or vessel: 09 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2785 Folio: 10 Page Number: 11 Household schedule number: 62 Household Members: Name Age George Crews 43 Jane Crews 50 George E S Crews 14
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malyon
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15 Sep 2017 11:47 |
says jane is married
Jane Crews England and Wales Census, 1891 Name Jane Crews Event Type Census Event Date 1891 County Surrey Parish Ewell Ecclesiastical Parish BANSTEAD Registration District Epsom Gender Female Age 38 Marital Status Married Relationship to Head of Household Cottage Mother Birth Year (Estimated) 1853 Birthplace Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Page Number 3 Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 547/ 133
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Flip
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15 Sep 2017 11:47 |
You've been at this one a long time Andy!
http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1310510
Sounds like she doesn't know where she was born, maybe father was made up, or if a marriner they may have moved around a lot? Have you found her on 1911?
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Flip
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15 Sep 2017 11:55 |
I wonder about this from familysearch - on the image lists family at the top, but on the previous page the bottom entry is for Richard Searle:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5R9M-3C?i=446&cc=1849782
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ArgyllGran
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15 Sep 2017 12:07 |
???
Jane and George Crews:
Jane Crews in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Jane Crews Year: 1921 [ also at same address in 1920] County or Borough: Richmond upon Thames Ward or Division/Constituency: Twickenham Street address: 54 William [actually 52 Heathfield South on image]
??? Maybe:
Jane Crews in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Jane Crews Death Age: 72 Birth Date: abt 1850 Registration Date: Mar 1922 Registration district: Brentford Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 3a
George Crewe in the 1911 England Census Name: George Crewe [George Crews] Age in 1911: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Leigh, Worcestershire <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Civil Parish: Twickenham County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 52 Heathfield South, Twickenham <<<<<<<<<<< Marital Status: Married Occupation: Cordwainer (at Industrial [something] School ) Registration district: Brentford Registration District Number: 128 Sub-registration district: Twickenham ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 71 Piece: 6837 Household Members: Name Age George Crewe 54
Leigh, Worcestershire is also his POB in 1901.
Marriages Dec 1885 CREWS George King's N 6c 733 KOLTER Jane King's N. 6c 733
Birth of son George:
CREWS, GEORGE EDWIN SEARLE mms SEARLE Order GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 398
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ArgyllGran
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15 Sep 2017 12:16 |
Marriage of son George:
George Edwin S Crews in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: George Edwin S Crews Registration Year: 1908 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Bridgend Inferred County: Glamorgan Volume: 11a Page: 1498 Records on Page: Name George Edwin S Crews Elvira Jennings
Here are Jane, and George junior, with wife and children, in 1911. Now she's born in Wales!:
Jane Crews in the 1911 England Census Name: Jane Crews Age in 1911: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation to Head: Mother Gender: Female Birth Place: Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales Civil Parish: Shifnal County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street address: Union Workhouse, 34 Park St, Shifnal, Salop Marital Status: Married Registration district: Shifnal Registration District Number: 347 Sub-registration district: Shifnal ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 284 Piece: 16013 Household Members: Name Age George Crews 30 - Master of Workhouse Elvira Crews 32 - Matron of Workhouse Edna Crews 0 - daughter Jane Crews 58 - mother Kathleen Crews 5 - neice
(and lots of workhouse inmates)
Baptism of the child listed as Kathleen Crews:
Doris Kathleen Jane Kolter in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Doris Kathleen Jane Kolter Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 27 May 1906 Father's name: Joseph Kolter Mother's name: Jessie Kolter Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary the Virgin, Twickenham Borough: Richmond Upon Thames Register Type: Parish Registers
EDIT: Could have saved myself the bother if I'd re-read the other thread properly - I see now you already had found Jane in 1911!
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Andrew
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15 Sep 2017 13:00 |
Thank you to everyone who has replied. Janes birth and family are a complete mystery, she only appears in 1875 to marry in Swansea, as a widow...but no previous marriage. Might have been to cover birth of a child in 1873, can't find a birth record for him either. Her birth from census Cork Swansea Bristol. and yes have been looking for years.
Andy
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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15 Sep 2017 14:55 |
Andy its not St James & Pauls????????
Place:Bristol St. James and St. Paul Out, Gloucestershire, England Name Bristol St. James and St. Paul Out Type Ancient parish, Civil parish Coordinates 51.4617°N 2.5986°W Located in Gloucestershire, England See also Barton Regis Hundred, Gloucestershire, England hundred in which the parish was located Bristol, Gloucestershire, England city in which the parishes were located
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ArgyllGran
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16 Sep 2017 13:56 |
Andy, did you have another earlier thread which you have now deleted?
There's the one posted by Flip above, and also this one: http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1363450
but I remember contributing to another long thread about Jane, and posting the 1871 census showing Philip Kolter / Katter living in Bristol with the Stinchcomb family.
I can't find that thread now.
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ArgyllGran
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16 Sep 2017 15:33 |
Have just come across this birth - I wonder if relevant re Jane??? Probably not, but will post it in case:
Sarah Jane Searls in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915 Name: Sarah Jane Searls Baptism Age: 0 Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 1850 Baptism Date: 3 Jan 1850 Baptism Place: St Mary's, Limerick city, Limerick, Ireland Parish Variants: St. Mary's, Limerick Diocese: Limerick Father: Richd Searls <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Mother: Isabella Robinson <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Richard Searl in the Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 Name: Richard Searl Date of Registration: 1847 Registration district: Limerick, Ireland Volume: 6 Page Number: 575 FHL Film Number: 101241 Records on Page: Name Emma Williamson William Bunn Thomas Nelson Thomas Gooding Richard Searl Anne Doogan Isabella Robertson <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Catherine Carmody
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