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Hi Shirley yes that is my wife,s direct line( Llewelyn Williams ?) Ann,s maiden names seems to lend towards Jones but,John died in abt.1935 I met Llewelyn Christine,s g. Father back in 1963 before we married regards Graham N.Z

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3433816/3433822/109/

(above Ann Jones Death relates. 63, Miskin)

Chris :)

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Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
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Jones Edwin Richard Pontypridd 11a 906
Williams Ann Pontypridd 11a 906


Deaths Dec 1907 (>99%)
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JONES Ann 28 Pontypridd 11a 378


Glamorganshire Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) John
Last name Williams
Birth year 1851
Baptism year 1851
Baptism day 26
Baptism month May
Place Pentyrch
County Glamorganshire
Father's first name(s) Thomas (occ. Carpenter)
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
(on image, James and John twin sons of)


http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3647404/3647409/57/

(report on Burial of Ann Williams, wife of John, and a lot of names mentioned!)

Or could be this one

Marriages Jun 1878
WILLIAMS Ann Cardiff 11a 335
WILLIAMS John Cardiff 11a 335

Based on this census
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
63, Miskin Road, Ystradyfodwg, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Williams Head Married Male 49 1852 Shop Keeper Upholsterer Pentyrch, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Ann Williams Wife Married Female 48 1853 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Ann Williams Daughter Single Female 22 1879 - Pentyrch, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Llewelyn Williams Son Single Male 17 1884 - Trealaw, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Thomas Williams Son Single Male 9 1892 - Trealaw, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Elizabeth Williams Sister Single Female 42 1859 - Pentyrch, Glamorgan, Wales

Either of these cover the ares born

WILLIAMS, LLEWELYN WILLIAMS Order
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 473
WILLIAMS, LLEWELYN WILLIAMS Order
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 486

Maybe
WILLIAMS, SARAH LEWIS
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 341

Marriages Mar 1876
Lewis Anne Llanelly 11a 812
Williams John Llanelli 11a 812

The only one from 1876 to 1879 for Glamorgan

Only a maybe though

Ahh this seems to be him in 1881 he has his mum living with them

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
89, Miskin Road, Ystradyfodwg, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Williams Head Married Male 29 1852 Painter Pentyrch, Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Ann Williams Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Ann Williams Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Pentyrch, Glamorgan, Wales
Sarah Williams Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Glamorgan, Wales
Sarah Williams Mother Married Female 71 1810 - Glamorgan, Wales

So from age of eldest daughter marriage would seem to be c 1877

Looking at the GRO index the mmn seems to be John

Have found several of the children reg including Isaac and Maria and John
None have a second name whIch may narrow down the resuits for a marriage

The reg district to seems to be Cardiff but there are several registered from 1871 to 1881

So the name of one of their chiidren seems to be the way to go to find mmn

Is this the one you are interested in??

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Broullwyn Villa, Pentyrch, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Williams Head - Male 61 1810 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Sarah Williams Wife - Female 61 1810 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Elizabeth Williams Daughter - Female 32 1839 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Evan Williams Son - Male 25 1846 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Ann Williams Daughter - Female 23 1848 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Isaac Williams Son - Male 21 1850 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
John Williams Son - Male 19 1852 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription
Maria Williams Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Glamorgan, Wales Transcription

There are at least two John Williams of pentyrch on the census

The one with father Thomas is still unmarried in1871

After that in the same are in 1881 there is one married to a Margery

How do you know your one married an ann

Have you checked out all possible marriages on https://www.freebmd.org.uk/search?
On the results screen, click the page numbers to see who is also listed on the same registration page.

If you know the name of a child born in the UK, as long as its not too common, sign into
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ and search for their registration. That should give you the mothers maiden name which will help to filter the marriage registration results.

Failing that, you may have to spend £9.25 for each possible marriage cert. When you order from GRO, you might be able to use father Thomas as checking feature but still end up with a number of possible results

Hi John Williams b.1851/2 Pentyrch Glamorgan father Thomas mother Sarah looking for marriage around 1879 to Ann ? Who regards Graham N.Z