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31 Aug 2017 20:20 |
You're welcome Valerie
Good luck with your tree :-)
Christina (another thread)
Leave it with me...........
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31 Aug 2017 20:48 |
Christina
Can you post the census details as since I upgraded to Office 365, it's a pain in the butt to view the Irish census details (formatting issues)
Thanks
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Eringobragh1916
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31 Aug 2017 21:15 |
Valerie... Sponsor's for Michael Baptised 1831 were :
Dan Santry and Ellen Crowley
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1 Sep 2017 01:39 |
thanks 'Eringobragh1916'..... every little bit helps.
Valerie
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Chris Ho :)
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1 Sep 2017 06:57 |
(if it helps Christina Gins, think she said once about trouble trying to c&p )
Chris :)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
1901 Residents of a house 3.1 in Turners Cottages, Shelbourne Road (Pembroke West, Dublin)
An 16 Female Daughter R Catholic Dublin Servant R and rite English Not Married - Skelly Marget 3 Female Daughter R Catholic Dublin Nil Cannot red English Not Married - Skelly Fanney 13 Female Daughter R Catholic Dublin Nil R and rite English Not Married - Skelly Edward 39 Male Head of Family R Catholic Bal? Nil Can read English Married - Skelly Syle 6 Male Son R Catholic Dublin Nil R only English Not Married - Skelly Frank 5 Male Son R Catholic Dublin Nil Cannot red English Not Married - Skelly Patrick 18 Male Son R Catholic Dublin Nil R and rite English Not Married - Skelly Ester 40 Female Wife R Catholic County of Dublin Nil Both English Married
(in case of below, from google)
Balbriggan is a town in the northern part of Fingal, Ireland. it is part of County Dublin.
(but then me, I know nuffink' Irish, and apologies Christina if I'm 'sticking 'beak' in!)
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1331360?d=asc&page=1
(was below, no Parents named though)
31 May 1894 - Freeman's Journal - Dublin, Dublin, Republic of Ireland
SCALDED TO DEATH. A child named Andrew Skelly, aged sixteen months. has died at 23 Turner's Cottages, Ballsbridge, from the effects of scalds received by overturning of a can of hot cocoa...
Edits (above would go with below, from other 'Thread')
Name CHRISTOPHER FRANCISCUS SKELLY Date of Birth 4 January 1896 Address 23 TURNERS COTTAGES Father EDVARDUS SKELLY Mother ESTHER FOX
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AustinQ
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1 Sep 2017 07:41 |
On the original census the place name looks a little like Balktoss, but I can't see any place that resembles that. Age for Edward is unclear.
On his death 22nd October 1901, Edward was listed as age 52 (army pensioner). His wife Esther of 3 Turner's Cottages was in attendance
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Gee
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1 Sep 2017 07:50 |
Thanks Chris & Erin (well done on deciphering those names!) for posting more info - Chris, you can stick your little beak in when ever you want hun :)
Christina, I have found this marriage on Ancestry for Edward Skelly
Edward Skelly
Father: John Mother: Anne Skelly
Event Type:Marriage
Residence Place:2 Barrow St
Marriage Date:16 Apr 1882 Marriage Place:St Andrew's, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Parish Variants:St. Andrew's, Westland Row, Westland Row
Spouse: Esther Fox of 49 Townend Street
Father Patrick Mother Elizabeth Fox
Wit: John Skelly & Mary A Fox --------------------------------------------------------
Looks like the correct marriage above for Edward as here is one of children' baptism' who is listed on the 1901 census
Margarita Skelly [Margaret Skelly]
Baptism Age:0
Birth Date:19 Sep 1898
Baptism Date:25 Sep 1898
Baptism Place:Haddington Road, Dublin, Ireland
Residence Place:3 Turners Cottage (no image to see but expect the house No has the 2 missing)
Parish Variants:Haddington Road, Dublin, Irishtown, St. Mary's
Diocese:Dublin
Father: M Edwards Skelly
Mother:Esther Fox ------------------------------------------------------------------ And another child
Christopher Franciscus Skelly
Baptism Age:0
Birth Date:4 Jan 1896
Baptism Date:6 Jan 1896
Baptism Place:Haddington Road, Dublin, Ireland
Residence Place:23 Turners Cottages
Parish Variants:Haddington Road, Dublin, Irishtown, St. Mary's
Diocese:Dublin
Father:Edvardus Skelly
Mother:Esther Fox
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1 Sep 2017 08:26 |
Andreas Scally
Baptism Age:0
Birth Date:23 Jan 1893
Baptism Date:30 Jan 1893
Baptism Place:Haddington Road, Dublin, Ireland
Residence Place:23 Turners Cottages
Parish Variants: Haddington Road, Dublin, Irishtown, St. Mary's
Diocese:Dublin
Father:Edvardi Scally
Mother:Esther Fox ------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvester Scally
Baptism Age:0
Birth Date:23 Jan 1893
Baptism Date:30 Jan 1893
Baptism Place:Haddington Road, Dublin, Ireland
Residence Place:23 Turners Cottages
Parish Variants:Haddington Road, Dublin, Irishtown, St. Mary's
Diocese:Dublin
Father:Edvardi Scally
Mother:Esther Fox
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AustinQ
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1 Sep 2017 08:50 |
On the image for the Roman Catholic Parish records re the marriage of Edward and Esther it gives the address of Edward's parents and the witnesses:
Parents- Edward & Anne- 77 Capel Street
Witness- John Skelly- 22 Lucuis Terrace (Unsure about Lucuis, perhaps someone else can look)
EDIT: Father was John, not Edward!
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Gee
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1 Sep 2017 09:07 |
On the marriage for Edward Skelly & Esther Fox, his parents are listed as John (not Edward) & Ann of 77 Capel St
The witness' John Skelly & Mary A Fox (can't make out John' address!
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AustinQ
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1 Sep 2017 09:12 |
Doh- yes, sorry Gins, father John. It was the Address I was concentrating on!
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Eringobragh1916
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1 Sep 2017 18:05 |
Christina.....
This may help give you an insight into the conditions the Skelly family lived in Turners Cottages....(not uncommon)
From Irish Times article 2014.
Ballsbridge, Dublin’ s embassy belt, once had its very own slum, Turner’ s Cottages, close to the top of Shelbourne Road and almost opposite the present day Oval development.
Richard Turner, a noted 19th century ironfounder, opened his Hammersmith Works on Pembroke Road in 1834. They made the roof of what is now Pearse station in Westland Row, the great botanical greenhouses at Glasnevin, Belfast and Kew, most of the garden railings in Ballsbridge and did business as far away as Russia.
Today, Hume House is there, while next door, the Number One, Ballsbridge, scheme of luxury apartments and offices is being built on the old veterinary college site.
Turner built a collection of cottages at the back of his site to house his workers and they remained in place for many years after the iron works moved in 1876 to North King Street, on the other side of the city. The cottages weren’t demolished until just over 40 years ago, at which stage, there were still close on 20 left. Outsiders, but not the people living there, called it “ The Gut”.
The cottages each had two large downstairs rooms; most had no kitchens, although in later years some had tiny kitchenettes. People cooked on either a large open fire or on a range. Coal was fetched from a nearby coal yard in prams and stored beneath the stairs. Upstairs, there were two bedrooms, with wrought iron fireplaces and a small boxroom, but no lavatory or bathroom. In earlier days, a different family lived in each room, so that one house had four families.
People living there had to queue to use the outside lavatory in the yard and wash themselves in front of the fire in the living room.
Families living in the cottages shared a tap in the yard for water and for washing clothes, which were hung to dry on lines, worked with pulleys that stretched from one side of the small enclave to the other.
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Julie
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2 Sep 2017 10:31 |
That is really kind of you. Hoping you could help try and find this person. I have Jeremiah Harrington bn 1829 in Cork Ireland. His father is down as john who was a farmer labourer. Jerry has been found in the 1851 when he travelled and lived in Dowlais Merthyr Glamorgan Wales. He married Ellen Golden/Goulding in 1853. She was also from Ireland. I have found no way of tracing any of Jeremiah siblings or mother as I have not found his birth. Would appreciate any help with info. Thank you in advance. Julie
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AustinQ
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2 Sep 2017 12:53 |
There are these Baptisms in 1827 and 1834:
Name: Jeremiah Harrington Date of Baptism: 25-Mar-1827 Parish/District: DONOUGHMORE Gender: Male County Co. Cork Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: John Harrington Mother: Mary Ruby
Informant 1: Patrick Cremen Informant 2: Mary Ruby ------------------------------------
Name: Jeremiah Harington Date of Birth: Date of Baptism: 07-Jun-1834 Parish/District: BALLYHEA Gender: Male County Co. Cork Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: John Harington Mother: Margaret Henessy
Informant 1: Edmond Skiddy Informant 2: Catherine Henessy
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Dea
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2 Sep 2017 13:42 |
This is a VERY long shot and I don't know what sort of info you can find on that site but I hav Margaret McLoughlin who married in Lancashire in January 1871.
I have a feeling she might have come from Ireland somewhere. There is a son Thomas born c1868 (who 'might' belong to her??) and Margaret disappears completely by the time of the 1871 census, although I have found another possible child of her's born in Lancashire c1872?
Her father was John who was a 'bricksetter'
Would it be possible to find anything perhaps on journeys for her to England prior to 1871 or a return journey in or before 1872 when her name could be Fenton ?
She was born c1853.
Thanks Ginns,
Dea x
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Gee
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2 Sep 2017 13:50 |
Dea
When was she born?
A Tree at Ancestry has her born 1852 in Lancashire?
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Julie
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2 Sep 2017 14:06 |
Thank you for the info, Do you know if any of those places are near to Adrigole please? Thank you Julie
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Dea
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2 Sep 2017 14:07 |
born c1852 Gins - which tree is that please?
Dea x
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2 Sep 2017 14:13 |
This tree Dea but they don't have parents of a death for her
Member Tree Name Parents
Forward (Tree owner) Public Member Tree 1 attached record, 2 sources
Margaret McLoughlin
Birth: Abt 1852 - Lancashire, England Marriage: Mar 1871 - Salford, Lancashire, England Spouse: Mark Fenton F: (Name Unknown) M: (Name Unknown) -----------------------------------------------
Do these MMN mean anything to you
Name:
Mother's Maiden Surname: MCLOUGHLIN, MARGARET CAIN Order GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 20 Page 441 MCLOUGHLIN, MARGARET FRAIN Order GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in BIGGLESWADE Volume 06 Page 65 MCLOUGHLIN, MARGARET FLINN Order GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in BOLTON UNION Volume 08C Page 319
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Dea
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2 Sep 2017 14:16 |
Thanks Ginns but that is a tree on which I corrected some detail and gave them Margaret's name but they know nothing more than I have told them and have 'assumed' her birth was in Lancashire.
I have followed all options and suggestions available in England and they have come to nothing which is why I am looking towards Ireland as a 'possibility'.
Dea x
P.S. - I have spent 14 years on this so far !!!!! :-(
Dea x
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