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Hi, Wondering if someone could possibly help me in my search Please. I have John Joseph Cunningham bn abt 1859 who married Ellen Welsh/Welch. They lived in Merthyr Glamorganshire. I'm looking for any info that could help in the search of John, Birth place, parents or siblings etc.
Thank you in advance
Regards Julie

I can't see his birth anywhere. There are lots of John Cunninghams, but none with middle name Joseph.

Nor their marriage.

I don't see them in censuses either, at least not in Merthyr.

Where have you found their names, please?

Death for Ref:

First name(s) JOHN JOSEPH
Last name CUNNINGHAM
Gender Male
Birth year 1859
Age 32
Death quarter 1
Death year 1891
District Merthyr Tydfil
County Glamorganshire
Volume 11A Page 425

There's this Ellen - could this be her? She's a widow.

Ellen Cunningham
in the 1891 Wales Census
Name: Ellen Cunningham
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: Dowlais
Town: Dowlais
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4438
Folio: 102
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Cunningham 26
Mary Cunningham 7
Jno Cunningham 3
William Cunningham 6/12

AG- birth of William fits:

CUNNINGHAM, WILLIAM mmn: WELSH
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 552

Also John:


CUNNINGHAM, JOHN mms WELSH
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 596

Possibly Ellen in 1881 - not that it helps find JJC -

Ellen Walsh
in the 1881 Wales Census
Name: Ellen Walsh
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Ebbw Vale, Monmouth, Wales
Civil Parish: Aberystruth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 6th Row Newton
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Laundress
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5239
Folio: 20
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hitchings 55
Mary Hitchings 50
Catherine Hitchings 18
James Lyons 18
Ellen Walsh 19

I suspect he was born in Ireland, or possibly Scotland.

Do you any of the children's birth certificates? Do you know what John's occupation was?

No John Cunninghams with middle name Joseph born in Scotland 1855-65.

He didn't marry in Scotland, either - just to confirm - wasn't expecting that he would.

No, can't see a marriage- but, they weren't necessarily married (to each other!)

There are a few possible births in Ireland.

I have a birth certificate for John Cunningham bn 13/02/1888, Dowlais Glam, son to Ellen formerly welsh, who registered him. His father John was deceased when he married Margaret Barry 28/06/1913. Ellen remarried Daniel Crowley in 1892, states shes widowed and her father is Thomas Walsh. Both fathers were labourers.

Thank you for your help. Much appreciated

????

Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
BEVAN Edward Merthyr Tydfil 11a 685
Cunningham John Merthyr Tydfil 11a 685 xxxxxxxxxx
Treharne Elizabeth Merthyr T. 11a 685

female name missing

Daughter Mary's birth:


CONNINGHAM, MARY ANN mms WELCH
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in BEDWELLTY Volume 11A Page 81

That 1882 marriage posted by safc looks like a good bet.

I would buy a copy if it were my family .
EDIT:

Or maybe not! See Dea's post below.

I hate to put a spanner in he works but FMP suggests that this John married Elizabeth Traharne:

First name(s) JOHN
Last name CUNNINGHAM
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1882
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOHN CUNNINGHAM married
Elizabeth Treharne
District Merthyr Tydfil
District number -
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 685
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain, Wales


This looks like them in 1891?


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Brook Street, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Cunningham Head Married Male 32 1859 Coal Miner Breconshire, Wales
Transcription
Elizabeth Cunningham Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Glamorgan, Wales
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Thomas John Cunningham Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Glamorgan, Wales
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John Jones Boarder Single Male 20 1871 Coal Tipper Radnorshire, Wales
Transcription
David Powell Boarder Single Male 17 1874 Coal Miner Radnorshire, Wales


CUNNINGHAM, THOMAS JOHN TREHARN Order
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 584

Dea x

Oh, well, back to square one!

ELLEN
Last name WELCH
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1885
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ELLEN WELCH married one of these people
****John Joseph Briggs,**** John Fletcher
District Liverpool
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8B
Page 309
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain, England
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wrong surname though.


HANNAH
Last name WALSH
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1874
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ HANNAH WALSH married one of these people
Peter Weston, Joseph William Cunningham
District Cardiff
District number -
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 495
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain, Wales.

?

Attach to Family Tree
John Joseph Cunningham
Ireland Civil Registration Indexes
Name John Joseph Cunningham
Event Type Marriage
Event Date Oct - Dec 1881
Event Place Dublin North, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1881
Registration District Dublin North
Volume Number 2
?

That Dublin one can be ruled out

John Joseph
Last name Cunningham
Registration year 1881
Registered Quarter/Year Oct - Dec 1881
Registration district Dublin North
Volume 2
Page 479
MarriageFinder™ John Joseph Cunningham married one of these people
Mary Anne Murtagh, Savinia Cassin, Mary Anne Devine, Sarah Carey
County -
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Marriages 1845-1958
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Ireland
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Thank you all for your help.
Gives me a few more hints to go search for.