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Thanks Malyon - I'm stumped though by this other Rose Hannah Povey in the 1911 census aged 8 months I ve methodically gone through staffs bmd abd just can't find her I only can find the Rose Hannah that died 1908 - plus I'm shocked at how these sister in laws Sarah Ann & Sarah Jane just kept using the same names fur the children ( cousins ) ie one would have a Charles so then the other would it one would have Esther Jane so one would have an Esther Ann and so on !!! :-(

Deaths Jun 1980   (62%)

POVEY
 CHARLES
 16DE1906
 STOKE/T
 30
1674

this Charles is reg birth march quarter 1907 mother birks

Just found Margeret Povey 1906 mother is called Harding so least that eliminates that!!

Nope charges didn't die - he's in that census 1911. Need to look more closely next time but all these deaths in one family is tragic !

I ve just found a Margeret Povey 1906 Stoke on Trent but it doesn't say mothers maiden name - if it turns out to be Birks then this is more than likely Charles 1906 twin!! I need help please in finding out if Charles Povey died in 1908 like Margeret Povey and Rose Hannah xx

These duplicate names are really confusing me so I have 1908 Rose Hannah then she died 8 months old 26th sept so the we have the 1911 census there's Rose Hannah aged 0 with Esther 0 who I know died 1912 - so where the second Rose Hannah (1911) gone as well ?!?! :-(

According to all the above info ie 1911 census it seems like Esther Sarah Ann & Rose Hannah are twins does this seem right to you guys - both have mother Birks

Pennies just dropped Rose Hannah died 1908 & they ve got another one 1911 aged under 1 I'm getting really stumped now so they had two Rose Hannah's 2 Williams ( survived - and possibly 2 Margerets ( one died one my man 1909/1995)

Wonder if it's a cousin because if you notice on the 1911 census Sarah Jane & Sarah Ann ( Povey)are both living in the household with there respective husbands William & Charles ?!?

Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)

POVEY
Rose Hannah
0
Stoke T.

Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)

POVEY
Margaret
1
Stoke T
6b
171

I have rose Hannah's death cert - 3 weeks dishorrea & vomiting but who is that Margeret relating to ( my nan was the Margeret (1909-1995) Is that another Povey entirely ie it's just an alphabetical entry x

Hi guys thanks for all the info I have those census & children's details - it's just Ralph and charges 1907 that I'm struggling to put death dates or whereabouts too will keep looking x

It might be easier to just post the 1911 census Malyon

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
100 Market St Fenton Stoke on Trent, Fenton, Staffordshire, England

Margaret Povey Head Widow Female - 58 1853 Staffs Fenton
William Henry Povey Son Single Male Potter Mould Maker 16 1895 Staffs Fenton
William Povey Son Married Male Coal Miner 28 1883 Staffs Stoke
Sarah Jane Povey Daughter In Law Married Female - 28 1883 Staffs Longton
Charles Povey Grandson - Male - 3 1908 Staffs Fenton
Esther Jane Povey Grand-Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Staffs Fenton
Charles Povey Son Married Male Coal Miner 26 1885 Staffs Fenton
Sarah Ann Povey Daughter In Law Married Female Potter 25 1886 Staffs Longton
Charles Povey Grandson - Male - 4 1907 Staffs Longton
Margaret Povey Grand-Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Staffs Longton
Rose Hannah Povey Granddaughter - Female - 0 1911 Staffs Longton

Charles and Sarah Ann.......married 4 years......3 children born and living.

Although i am sure Emma will have this information already.

Deaths Mar 1912 

Povey
 Esther S A
 0
 Stoke T.
 6b
345

Deaths Sep 1908   (>99%)

POVEY
 Rose Hannah
 0
 Stoke T.

Deaths Mar 1908   (>99%)

POVEY
 Margaret
 1
 Stoke T
 6b
171

Deaths Sep 1908   (>99%)

POVEY
 Rose Hannah
 0
 Stoke T.

Deaths Mar 1908   (>99%)

POVEY
 Margaret
 1
 Stoke T
 6b
171

POVEY, ESTHER  SARAH ANN 
BIRKS  

GRO Reference: 1911  D Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT  Volume 06B  Page 484
 

POVEY, ROSE  HANNAH  
BIRKS  

GRO Reference: 1908  M Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT  Volume 06B  Page 301

POVEY, MARGARET    
BIRKS  

GRO Reference: 1909  D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT  Volume 06B  Page 241

The 1939 Register is from.......FindMyPast

Prickles,;o))

POVEY, CHARLES    
BIRKS  

GRO Reference: 1907  M Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT  Volume 06B  Page 273

Yep those are the 2 Williams. Thank you !