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(so the Death 1940 for John was in Scotland?, apologies thought it was USA)

Chris :)

Many thanks to all of you for the information: I know that it is difficult if not impossible to find deaths in the USA, but thank you all for your help:
Mumbles

And then his father died the following month.
A bad year for the family

"Narwhal" was believed sunk 23 July 1940:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Narwhal_(N45)

Death possibly at sea ???


BAILLIE, ALEXANDER

Rank:
Telegraphist
Service No:
D/SSX 13658
Date of Death:
01/08/1940
Age:
26
Regiment/Service:
Royal Navy

H.M. Submarine Narwhal <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Panel Reference:
Panel 39, Column 3.
Memorial:
PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of J. A. and Annie Hunter Hamilton Baillie, of Renfrew.

Reference below, if him?...

Chris :)

1901 (Find My Past)
Alexander Baillie Head Married Male 24 1877 Steam Crane Driver England
Annie Baillie Wife Married Female 22 1879 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Jessie Baillie Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Cadder, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Street Benview Terrace, 2 Main Street
Parish Cadder
Country Scotland
County Lanarkshire
Registration district Cadder (Western)
Archive reference RG13


1891 (Find My Past)
Andrew Baillie Head Unmarried Male 37 1854 Steam Craneman Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Elizabeth Forrester As Wife Unmarried Female 33 1858 - Midlothian, Scotland
Alexander Baillie Son Unmarried Male 14 1877 Assistant In Spirit Shop England
Maggie Baillie Daughter - Female 13 1878 Scholar Lanarkshire, Scotland
Jennie Baillie Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Renfrewshire, Scotland
Quintan Baillie Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mary Ann Baillie Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Lanarkshire, Scotland
Jemima Baillie Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Lanarkshire, Scotland
Agnes Baillie Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Cadder, Lanarkshire, Scotland
House name Eagle Brewery Bishopbriggs
Parish Cadder
County Lanarkshire
Registration district Calder West


1881 (Find My Past)
Andrew Baillie Head Married Male 27 1854 Engine Keeper At Dock Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Alexander Baillie Son - Male 4 1877 - England
Margaret Baillie Daughter - Female 3 1878 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Jane Baillie Daughter - Female 0 1881 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Quintin Baillie Brother Unmarried Male 20 1861 Engine Keeper At Dock Lanarkshire, Scotland
James Baillie Brother Unmarried Male 17 1864 General Labourer At Dock Lanarkshire, Scotland
Elizabeth Forster Servant Unmarried Female 24 1857 House Keeper Edgehead, Midlothian, Scotland
House number 81
Street Bellville Street
Town Greenock
Parish Greenock
County Renfrewshire


Birth
BAILLIE, JOHN ALEXANDER (FORSTER)
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 134


War Death, posted earlier.

http://wrecksite.eu/peopleView.aspx?102116

(name: Baillie, Alexander
age: 26 years
date of death: 01/08/1940
remarks: Son of J. A. and Annie Hunter Hamilton Baillie, of Renfrew)


Edits (where is the 1940 Death place?)

The main problem of finding a death in the USA is that DC are issued & held by the State, not centrally. Some have allowed them to be published on the internet, but most have not.
According to https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1202535, the Social Service Death Index (SSDI) only started to be compiled in 1964. Even then, names may be missing as they hadn't contributed & therefore hadn't been paid a pension or benefit.

Although helpers have already checked, try
https://familysearch.org/search
https://www.findagrave.com
https://billiongraves.com

You could also try http://www.usgenweb.org as a portal.

Thank you I don't think that the border crossing is her: The son Alexander is correct:
They had a son of this name and he died in 1940:

Mumbles

Their son?

Alexander Baillie
in the UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947
Age:
26
Birth Date:
abt 1914
Death Date:
1 Aug 1940
Cemetery:
Naval Memorials In The United Kingdom Plymouth Part I
Burial Country:
England
Father:
J A Baillie
Mother:
Annie Hunter Hamilton Baillie
Regimental Number:
D/SSX 13658

The border crossing record is not her.

Close examination of the image shows the YOB as 1909, so that's this woman:

BAILLIE
ANNIE HUNTER HA. . . . . . .
F
1909
646/2 949
Govan

Need second opinion on the border crossing birth date please

Could be 1909!

EDIT

Name: Annie Baillie
Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1929
Birth Date: abt 1909
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: govan
Age: 20
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Caledonia

so NOT the correct person.

Andy

Her birth ? ( Mumbles's Annie - not the one in the border crossing record)

HAMILTON
ANNIE HUNTER
F
1879
656/ 108
Stonehouse [South Lanarkshire]

Surely that has to be her on the border crossing record posted by Andy because it says that she entered USA at New York under the name Annie Hunter Hamilton Baillie on 23 June 1929. BUT it also says that she was born 24 May 1869, Govan, Scotland.

Alexander H Bailey
Find A Grave Index
birth:
23 September 1874

death:
31 October 1939

burial:
1939
Churchill, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, United States of America

????


Annie Baillie
Oregon Death Index
Name Annie Baillie
Event Type Death
Event Date 16 Jul 1938
Event Place Clackamas, Oregon
Spouse's Name Alexandr Baillie
Certificate Number 280

Is this her??

U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1825-1960


Name: Anna B Attchison
[Annie Hunter Hamilton Baillie]
Gender: Female
Age: 77
Birth Date: 24 May 1869
Birth Place: Govan, Scotland
Arrival Date: 2 Aug 1946
Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards


Gives name as Annie B Aitchison

Andy

Trying to find death of a Annie Hunter Baillie nee Hamilton Born C 1878 Glasgow Scotland: She married Alexander Baillie on 3-11-1899 Cadder Lanarkshire Scotland: details from marriage cert:
Alexander died on 22-9-1940 age 64: He is shown as being a widower on his death cert: His name is also shown as being John Alexander Baillie death details supplied by his daughter E F Baillie on death cert:
From really sketchy info Annie is supposed to have died in McKeesport. Alleghany. Pennsylvania USA but no date given:
I assume that she died between 1920 and 1940 as there was a child born to Alex and Annie in 1920 and her husband is shown as being a widower in 1940:

I know that you people are good but are you that good to be able to find this one: All the best and thank you in advance as I know that you will give it a good go:

Mumbles: