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7 Aug 2017 07:13 |
Thank you for helping me Greyghost
I was wondering that about Florence having one child. Perhaps your right and fred had just marked the form wrong.
You have solved one other problem for me. I was looking for a marriage for Emily Gray and I had it down to a Mr Stork or Mr Skelton. Well you have a Emily Skelton as a witness at Fred's marriage.so that solves that one.
As for all that money Fred left Sarah. I wonder if the refreshment rooms belonged to George clark. Sarahs father and he left the shop to them..
Thank you so much Andy for all your help.I could not have done all this without you both helping me.
Jane
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6 Aug 2017 19:53 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 14 Scot Lane Doncaster, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Fred Gray Head Married Male Yard Foreman G N Ray Works 46 1865 Winterton Lincolnshire Sarah Gray Wife Married Female At Home 54 1857 Thorne Yorkshire Florence Betsey Gray Daughter Single Female Milliner 18 1893 Doncaster Yorkshire Jane Hodge Servant Single Female - 21 1890 Hexthorpe Yorkshire Daisy Hodge Servant Single Female - 18 1893 Hexthorpe Yorkshire
Fred and Sarah married 22 years (originally written by both Fred and Sarah's names - crossed through by Fred's)
The original does say 1 child born and still living by the side of Florence's name but I wonder if it's possible this was written on the wrong line and should be by her Mother's name. (only one Gray/Clark birth found). No births Gray with a mmn not showing on GRO index Doncaster RD 1908-1911
---------------------------------------------------------- Results: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: GRAY, FLORENCE BETSY CLARK Order GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in DONCASTER Volume 09C Page 817
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First name(s) Fred Last name Gray Age 23 Birth year 1865 Residence Doncaster Marriage year 1888 Marriage date 16 Dec 1888 Marriage place Doncaster, St George Spouse's first name(s) Sarah Spouse's last name Clark Spouse's age 31 Spouse's residence Doncaster Father's first name(s) James Father's last name Gray Spouse's father's first name(s) George Spouse's father's last name Clark County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Archive Doncaster Archives Archive reference P1-1-B13 Page 43
On original Fred is shown as a Machine Man. James Gray a Farm Bailiff and George Clark as a Keeper of Refreshment Rooms.
Bachelor and spinster respectively.
Witnesses George and Emily Skelton
Banns - 4, 11, 18 Nov 1888 Christ Church, Doncaster and St George's, Doncaster Fred of 8 Union Street of Christ Church Parish and Sarah of Scot Lane, St George's Parish
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6 Aug 2017 18:13 |
Marriage for daughter
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1926 (>99%)
Dibb Arthur W Gray Doncaster 9c 1442 Gray Florence B Dibb Doncaster 9c 1442
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6 Aug 2017 18:10 |
Probate for Sarah
Name: Sarah Gray Death Date: 12 Apr 1925 Death Place: Doncaster, South Yorkshire, England Probate Date: 11 Aug 1925 Registry: Wakefield
Same address as Fred died at Three Horseshoes Hotel, Bentley to Florence Betsey Grey Effects £812 10s
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6 Aug 2017 17:32 |
Gosh I wonder how he managed that and why would he need such a large place??
Thanks Andy
All the best
Jane
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6 Aug 2017 17:25 |
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Name: Fred Gray Death Date: 24 Aug 1924 Death Place: Doncaster, South Yorkshire, England Probate Date: 2 Feb 1925 Registry: Wakefield
of 67 Netherall Road Doncaster to Sarah Gray widow Effects £1049 10s
A respectable amount for the time. Living in 10 rooms in 1911 as a railway worker must have been fairly unusual.
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6 Aug 2017 17:24 |
Thank you so much Andy
I had a look for that on familysarch but I could not find them.
All the best
Jane
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6 Aug 2017 17:21 |
1891 for ref
Name: Fred Gray Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gray Gender: Male Where born: Winterton, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Doncaster Ecclesiastical parish: St George County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Doncaster ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3863 Folio: 8 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Fred Gray 26 Sarah Gray 35 George Gray 9 (Clark on image)Son Charles Clark 24 Brother in Law James Clark 86 Grandfather Thomas Geo Browning 47 Cousin? Lucy Bickerstaff 24 Servants Ada Thompson 20
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6 Aug 2017 17:15 |
Thanks Andy for all your help
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6 Aug 2017 17:14 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%) CLARK Sarah Doncaster 9c 1052 Gray Fred Doncaster 9c 1052
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6 Aug 2017 17:10 |
Gosh that was quick. thank you so much for helping me. Jane
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6 Aug 2017 17:06 |
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Name: Fred Gray Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Sarah Gray Birth Place: Winterton, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Doncaster Search Photos: Search for 'Doncaster' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Doncaster County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Doncaster Sub-registration district: Doncaster ED, institution, or vessel: 03 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4410 Folio: 74 Page Number: 20 Household schedule number: 122 Household Members: Name Age Fred Gray 35 Foreman G N R Works Sarah Gray 44 Refreshment/Coffee House Keeper Born Yorks, Thorne Florence B Gray 8 Phoebe Chapell 21 Kate Dent 18 Tom Mac Donald 67
Address 14 & 15 Scot Lane
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6 Aug 2017 17:05 |
I Think there are some people missing off this census. Please can someone see if they can find the rest of the family.. Possibly Fred Gray as Head and possibly sarah gray as his wife. Fred was born 1865 in Winterton lincs
1901 Name Florence B Gray Event Type Census Event Date 31 Mar 1901 Event Place Doncaster, Yorkshire (West Riding), England County Yorkshire (West Riding) Civil Parish Doncaster Ecclesiastical Parish St George'S Sub-District Doncaster Registration District Doncaster Residence Note Scot Lane Gender Female Age 8 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Birth Year (Estimated) 1893 Birthplace Doncaster, Yorkshire Schedule Type 122 Page Number 21 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Florence B Gray Daughter F 8 Doncaster, Yorkshire Phoebe Chapell Servant F 21 Doncaster, Yorkshire Kate Dent Servant F 18 Doncaster Park Lane, Yorkshire Tom Macdonald Servant M 67 Scotland
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1911 census. 14 and 15 Scot lane Doncaster. Fred was 46 married Yard foreman Great Western Railway Works Sarah at home born yorkshire. ~Florence Betsey Gray 18 single (with one child). she was a MIliner. born Doncaster.
Is this census complete?
Thanks for helping me
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