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Frances
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7 Aug 2017 09:29 |
Thank you for that Kathleen and for all that extra mgnv. I must make a note of that website.
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KathleenBell
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6 Aug 2017 19:47 |
In 1911 Morris was a Stock Keeper in a Hat and Cap Factory.
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6 Aug 2017 19:14 |
I've supplemented FreeBMD with lookups from the new GRO index - gotten via https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ after a free signup
and the incomplete local index, gotten via: http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27T-V9ZJ Event Place Leeds, Yorkshire,Yorkshire West Riding, England Residence Note Copenhagen St Registration Number RG11 Piece/Folio 4517/32 Page Number 18 Isaac Brookston Head M 38 Poland Cap Maker (Hatter) Mary Brookston Wife F 37 Poland Lewis Brookston Son M 14 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Sarah Brookston Daughter F 12 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Elias Brookston Son M 8 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Etty Brookston Daughter F 5 Leeds, Yorkshire, England https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27T-V9Y9 Registration Number RG11 Piece/Folio 4517/33 Page Number 19 Annie Brookston Daughter F 3 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Jacob Brookston Son M 0 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Dora Gladstone Sister Daughter F 19 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Tailoress Moses Gladstone Sister Son M 17 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Cap Blocker (Hatter)
1891 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7XLY-B2M County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding) Parish Potter Newton Ecclesiastical Parish ST AIDANS Registration District Leeds Residence Note Bankside Street Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 3714/ 18 Page Number 30 Moses Gladstone Head M 27 Yorkshire, England Stopman To Clothier Annie Gladstone Wife F 27 London, England Robert Gladstone Son M 0 Yorkshire, England Francis Sutton Servant F 17 England
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1889 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference GLADSTONE Moses WATERFIELD Charlotte A J St George, Leeds Leeds CE44/E/401
GLADSTONE, ROBERT WATERFIELD Order GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 564
GLADSTONE, DORIS WATERFIELD Order GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 586
GLADSTONE, MURIEL WATERFIELD Order GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 553
Possible marrs
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1917 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference GLADSTONE Robert PULLEIN Fanny M Grove Methodist Chapel, Horsforth Leeds AP265/A/12
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1920 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference GLADSTONE Doris SPEIGHT Albert E St Augustine, Wrangthorne Leeds CE70/B/224
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1921 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference GLADSTONE Muriel GREENWOOD Harold St Augustine, Wrangthorne Leeds CE70/C/20
1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9RC-7LF Event Place Headingley Cum Burley, Yorkshire (West Riding), England County Yorkshire (West Riding) Civil Parish Headingley Cum Burley Ecclesiastical Parish St Matthias Sub-District Kirkstall Registration District Leeds [Registration Number RG13 Piece/Folio 4244/ 121] Page Number 16 Morris Gladstone Head M 37 Marylebone, London PACKER CLOTHING FACTORY Charlotte A J Gladstone Wife F 37 Leeds, Yorkshire Robert Gladstone Son M 10 Leeds, Yorkshire Doris Gladstone Daughter F 6 Leeds, Yorkshire Muriel Gladstone Daughter F 2 Leeds, Yorkshire
1911 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWV7-6NS Parish Leeds Sub-District Kirkstall Registration District Leeds [Registration Number RG14 Piece 27075 ] Morris Gladstone Head M 47 Leeds St Thomas, Yorkshire STOCK KEEPER IN Charlotte Annie Jane Gladstone Wife F 47 London Marylebone, London Robert Gladstone Son M 20 Leeds St Georges, Yorkshire INSURANCE CLERK Doris Gladstone Daughter F 16 Leeds St Aidens, Yorkshire SHOP ASSISTANT Muriel Gladstone Daughter F 12 Leeds Burley, Yorkshire
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Frances
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3 Aug 2017 11:25 |
Hi Tiggit and Kathleen, thank you for all your posts, I have only just seen them
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KathleenBell
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31 Jul 2017 16:35 |
On the image of the 1861 census the name is definitely Toba rather than Soba as the first letter of the name is the same as the first letter of others on the page named Thomas.
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31 Jul 2017 16:21 |
There seem to be women from Poland/Russia with the name Toba so think that Soba has been mistranscribed in the 1861 census and should read Toba
Probate: Gladstone Moses of 4 Belgrave-terrace Thirsk Yorkshire died 14th September 1952 at 19 Royal-crescent Whitby Probate York 30th October to Harold Greenwood schoolmaster Effects: £434 1s 7d
It's possible that Harold Greenwood might have been Moses Gladstone's son-in-law.
Marriages Sep 1921
Gladstone Muriel Greenwood Leeds 9b 1013 Greenwood Harold Gladstone Leeds 9b 1013
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31 Jul 2017 16:18 |
Thanks AustinQ, so possibly Moses father then, although age is out by 5 years if the one I posted in the1861 census is the same person.
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31 Jul 2017 16:13 |
Tiggit- Maddie forgot to label her post- it was a death (not a birth):
Death: GLADSTONE, MOSES age: 25 GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 294
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31 Jul 2017 15:57 |
Possibly birth registrations for Annie and Etty Brookston in the 1881 census:
BROOKSTONE, ANNIE mother's maiden name LAZARUS GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 523
BROOKSTONE, ESTHER mother's maiden name LAZARUS GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 517
So Soba?Toby Gladstone (nee Lazarus) and Mary Brookston (nee Lazarus) sisters??
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31 Jul 2017 15:44 |
Maddie what site did you use to get the above 1863 birth reg for Moses?
I already posted one above from the gro but it doesn't match with yours Q or page number and I don't see it on freebmd Trying to establish if there were 2 Moses Gladstones born in 1863 in Leeds?
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31 Jul 2017 15:17 |
Name: Moses Gladstone Registration Year: 1863 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Leeds Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9b Page: 294
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Maddie
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31 Jul 2017 15:12 |
Name: Moses Gladstone Marriage Age: 26 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1863 Marriage Date: 17 Sep 1889 Marriage Place: Leeds, St George, Yorkshire, England Parish: Leeds, St George Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds, St George' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Moses Gladstone ---- clothier Spouse: Charlotte Annie Jane Waterfield
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KathleenBell
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31 Jul 2017 15:10 |
His wife's burial:-
Yorkshire Burials Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) Charlotte Annie Jane Last name Gladstone Age 74 Birth year 1859 Death year 1933 Burial year 1933 Burial date 01 Nov 1933 Burial place Sowerby County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Archive North Yorkshire County Record Office Archive reference N-PR-SOW1-22 Page 85 Record set Yorkshire Burials Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
The address on the image is so faded that it isn't possible to read it.
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31 Jul 2017 15:00 |
Could this be his burial? :-
National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription Learn more
Print transcription First name(s) Moses (Morris) Last name Gladstone Birth year 1863 Death year 1952 Burial year 1952 Burial day 17 Burial month 9 Place Sowerby [nr Thirsk] Church description ST OSWALD Church denomination ANGLICAN County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (North Riding) Country England Record set National Burial Index For England & Wales Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
EDIT - There is the image of the burial record and it definitely says Moses and then in brackets Morris. Perhaps he just prefered the name Morris. His abode was given as 19 Royal Crescent, Whitby (which is certainly a lovely place to live - the house was up for sale a year ago when Google captured it for Streetview. Beautiful sea views).
The GRO reference for his death certificate:-
First name(s) MOSES Last name GLADSTONE Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1863 Age 89 Death quarter 3 Death year 1952 District Whitby County Yorkshire Volume 1B Page 698 Country England
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31 Jul 2017 14:46 |
1939 9 Brudenell Mount , Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England Attach to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Morris Goldstone 07 Oct 1863 Male Tailor Retired Widowed 219 4 Cecilia Dodds 22 Sep 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Divorced 219 1 Kathleen (C) Ellis 09 Feb 1916 Female Gown Saleswoman Single 219 2 Charles J Goldstone 16 May 1898 Male Commercial Traveller Printer Travelling Divorced 219 3
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31 Jul 2017 14:46 |
Possible marriage for parents:
Marriages Sep 1860 Cohn Pauline Leeds 9b 551 Gladstone Moses Leeds 9b 551 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Lazarous Toby Leeds 9b 551 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Lazarus Toby Leeds 9b 551 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Rehfeld David Leeds 9b 551
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 19, Templar Street, Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Moses Gladston Head Married Male 28 1833 Tailor Poland (Russia) Transcription Soba Gladston Wife Married Female 18 1843 - Poland (Russia)
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31 Jul 2017 14:41 |
Birth reg: ??
GLADSTONE, MOSES mother's maiden name LAZARUS GRO Reference: 1863 S Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 368 Occasional Copy: A
Possibly Doris Gladstone's birth reg:
GLADSTONE, DABO mother's maiden name LAZARUS GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 340
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AustinQ
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31 Jul 2017 14:33 |
I don't have access but wondered if this was him on the 1939 register? Hopefully someone will be able to look
Dodds Household Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Morris Goldstone 1863 Cecilia Dodds and 2 more people are on this record
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Frances
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31 Jul 2017 14:21 |
Thank you Kath - it's just me then .....
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KathleenBell
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31 Jul 2017 14:15 |
If you look on Findmypast for births just putting in the first name "Morris" with no surname there are more than 60,000 records (although some of them are duplicated) so it's not an unusual spelling of the name.
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