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28 Jul 2017 19:41 |
This is what i have from the 1901 census, All born Norwich, Story has arisen that Bertie, 3 weeks was a twin, can anybody find a death for the other twin Please.
Alfred Smith 46 Maria Smith 41 Alfred Smith 19 Sarah Smith 13 Walter Smith 11 Benjamine Smith 9 Arthur Smith 6 Percy Smith 2 Bertie Smith 3 Weeks
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Jul 2017 20:33 |
Have you checked Freebmd or the new GRO Index?
There would be no record if the twin was still born
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Jul 2017 20:41 |
Was mother's maiden name Riches???
SMITH, BENJAMIN mmn RICHES GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 118
SMITH, ARTHUR EDWARD mmn RICHES GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 118
SMITH, PERCY JAMES mmn RICHES GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 129
but I can't find a registration for "Bertie"?
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safc
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28 Jul 2017 20:45 |
SMITH, BERTIE SHADRACK CORNISH Order GRO Reference: 1901 M Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 163
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Norfolkboy
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28 Jul 2017 20:49 |
Yes, SylviaInCanada Maria Riches, I Have Berties birth & death registration, But if the twin was stillborn, you say there would be no registration ? :-(
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Jul 2017 20:57 |
Wonder about this one. Docking is in Norfolk
SMITH, CYRIL DOUGLAS RICHES GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in DOCKING Volume 04B Page 299
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Norfolkboy
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28 Jul 2017 20:58 |
Seen that one safc, looks like he died 1966.
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Jul 2017 21:11 |
I think there must be another Smith / Riches marriage resulting in the births in Docking
SMITH, ALBERT ARTHUR RICHES Order GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in DOCKING Volume 04B Page 293
SMITH, CYRIL DOUGLAS RICHES Order GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in DOCKING Volume 04B Page 299
SMITH, WALTER CHRISTMAS RICHES Order GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in DOCKING Volume 04B Page 302
but then there are several other Smith / Riches births registered elsewhere during the 4 year period 1899 - 1903 ....... so not an unusual match :-(
SMITH, ARTHUR RICHES Order GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 764 SMITH, HAROLD RICHES Order GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 806 SMITH, JOHN RICHES Order GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in BOSTON Volume 07A Page 435 SMITH, SAMUEL REDVERS RICHES Order GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 514 SMITH, THOMAS RICHES Order GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 562
There was one in Norwich ...........
SMITH, HARRY RICHES Order GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 133
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Chris Ho :)
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28 Jul 2017 21:12 |
When Was Marriage of Parents?...
Chris :)
(not below was it?)
Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- RICHES Martha Docking 4b 457 SMITH Robert Alfred Docking 4b 457
(if her below?)
Baptism County Norfolk Place Lakenham Church name St Mark Register type Transcript Register entry number 397 Baptism date 06 Feb 1860 Birth date 22 Dec 1859 Person forename Maria Father forename Robert Father surname RICHES Father occupation Shoemaker Mother forename Maria
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Birth RICHES, ALFRED - GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 161
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Jul 2017 21:14 |
You say you have his birth cert .if he was a twin then the time of birth is shown
If his twin was stillborn then time of birth is irelevant
It wild be interesting to know what birth certificate you have
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Norfolkboy
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28 Jul 2017 21:38 |
Just checked Birth certificate & there is no time of birth stated.
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Chris Ho :)
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28 Jul 2017 21:47 |
(ah!, below)
Chris :)
Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ JONES Alfred Smith Norwich 4b 242 Riches Maria Elizabeth Norwich 4b 242
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1166854
Birth RICHES, MARIA ELIZABETH (SPOONER) GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 151
Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------- Riches Robert Norwich 4b 418 Spooner Maria Norwich 4b 418
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National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Bertie Last name Smith Birth year 1901 Birth date 11 Mar 1901 Event year 1904 School name St Augustine's Infants School Town Norwich County Norfolk Parent name(s) Mr. Smith
First name(s) Percy James Last name Smith Birth year 1898 Birth date 24 Oct 1898 Event year 1902 School name St Augustine's Infants School Town Norwich County Norfolk Parent name(s) Alfred Jones Smith Book type Admissions
Births Jun 1901 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith-Jones Bertie Frederick Norwich 4b 115 Smith-Jones William Thomas Norwich 4b 115
? SMITH-JONES, BERTIE FREDERICK (RICHES) GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 115
SMITH-JONES, WILLIAM THOMAS (APPLEGATE) GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 115
Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Applegate Clara Norwich 4b 349 JONES Walter Smith Norwich 4b 349
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safc
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28 Jul 2017 21:48 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 12 Denmark Opening Norwich, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Maria E Smith Head Widow Female Pont Washing 51 1860 Catton Norwich Transcription Leah Cooper Daughter Married Female Sweey Confectionery 23 1888 Catton Norwich Transcription Walter Smith Son Single Male Carter 21 1890 Norfolk Norwich Transcription Benjamin Smith Son Single Male Shoe Maker 19 1892 Norfolk Norwich Transcription Percy Percy Son - Male - 12 1899 Norfolk Norwich Transcription Bertie Percy Son - Male - 10 1901 Norfolk Norwich Transcription Harry Percy Son - Male - 7 1904 Norfolk Norwich
married 27 years 11 born 8 living 3 died
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