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Frank .R .Grieve born 1900 left for New York

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greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Jul 2017 14:49

Think Helen mixed up the generations - see my posts above - 2 x census and parents/grandparents marriages

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 22 Jul 2017 14:45

Helen, in your opening statement you say that Frank R. was born 1900 but his father David was born 1833. Was his father really 67 when he was born?

You also say that Frank R.'s brother David was born 1866. Was there really 34 years between brothers?

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mgnv

mgnv Report 22 Jul 2017 14:41

Just for eliminayion, there is a Frank Grieve, b Feb 1901 in Buffalo for the 1925 NY state census, but he's not your Frank.
Buffalo Ward 22, A.D. 02, E.D. 12, Erie Co NY
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSWW-F11 citing p. 30, line 27
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSWW-F1R
citing p. 30, line 25

As we can deduce from the links posted above, he's this Frank:
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Grey North / 46 Owen Sound / page 10
37 107 Grieve James 487 10 St W M Head M Nov 1853 58
38 107 Grieve Francis F Wife M Mar 1860 51
39 107 Grieve Robert M Son S Nov 1885 26
40 107 Grieve Stanly M Son S Oct 1890 21
41 107 Grieve Gordon M Son S Mar 1896 14
42 107 Grieve Frank M Son S Feb 1901 9
43 107 Grieve Edith F Daughter S Jun 1887 24
44 107 Grieve Catherine F Daughter S Jul 1891 19
45 107 Grieve Isabell F Daughter S Jul 1891 19
46 107 Grieve Amy F Daughter S Apr 1894 16
47 107 Grieve Margaret F Daughter S Feb 1899 11
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001988682.pdf
[The link should give the 1911 image, but LAC is down for maintainance, so I can't check it

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 22 Jul 2017 14:36

On that 1923 arrival in USA where he gives mother's name as Mary Ann Grieve, Blue Stone House, Crail, Fife he says he's going to join cousin John Brown, 319 E. 86th. St., New York.

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Jul 2017 14:30

Marriages of Parents of Frank (Francis R)
David Grieve married Mary Ann S Mitchell 1891 St Andrews and St Leonards RD Fife

and Grandparents
David Grieve married Betsy Spence 1863 Anstruther Easter RD Fife

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Jul 2017 14:13

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Lower Kenly, St Leonards, St Andrews & St Leonards, Fife, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Grieve Head Married Male 42 1839 Farmer (Of 436 Acres Of Which 411 Arable) Employing 5 Men 1 Boy & 5 Women Crail, Fife, Scotland
Betsy Grieve Wife Married Female 40 1841 - Kingsbarns, Fife, Scotland
Mary White Grieve Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1865 Farmer's Daughter Kilrenny, Fife, Scotland
David Grieve Son - Male 14 1867 Farmer's Son Cameron, Fife, Scotland

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jul 2017 14:11

I can't see anything else for Frank after 1823 , I'm afraid.

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Jul 2017 14:10

Are the relationships you've posted a bit mixed up?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bielethane Farm House, North Lane, Cameron, Fife, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Grieve Head Married Male 34 1867 Farmer Cameron, Fife, Scotland
Mary Ann Grieve Wife Married Female 31 1870 - Kingsbarns, Fife, Scotland
David S Grieve Son Single Male 8 1893 Scholar St Andrews, Fife, Scotland
Francis R Grieve Son Single Male 1 1900 - Cameron, Fife, Scotland
Charlotte Duncan Servant Single Female 25 1876 Servant Domestic Strathkinness, Fife, Scotland

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jul 2017 14:09


Frank Robert Grieve
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)

Given Name Frank Robert
Surname Grieve
Last Place of Residence Errol, Scotland
Event Date 01 Nov 1923
Age 23y
Nationality Britain, Scotch
Departure Port Glasgow
Arrival Port New York City
Gender Male
Marital Status S
Ship Name Columbia


The image is on www.libertyellisfoundation.org (FS gives a link to that), but the image is exactly the same as the NY passenger list I posted above.

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jul 2017 13:56

Familysearch has a link to image on Ellis Island site which may give more details on the 1923 arrival - but I don't have access sorry.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jul 2017 13:48

His travel in 1924, for helpers' reference:

Frank Robert Grieve
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Frank Robert Grieve
Arrival Date: 1 Nov 1923
Birth Date: abt 1900
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: st andrews
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbia

Occupation: farm worker.
Mother: Mary Ann Grieve, Blue Stone House, Crail, Fife.

EDIT:
Have just re-read your OP, Helen. Do you mean Mary Ann was his aunt's name, not his mother's? I'm confused. Is this the wrong man?]


He had been before, in 1921;

Frank Grieve
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1825-1960
Name: Frank Grieve
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1900
Birth Place: St Andrews
Birth Country: Scotland
Arrival Date: 1 Feb 1921
Port of Arrival: Buffalo, New York, USA
Departure Contact: Foster Sister Ernest Boswell [the words Foster Sister aren't on the image]
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards

Frank R Grieve
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Frank R Grieve
Birth Date: abt 1900
Age: 21
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1921
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Victorian
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 121216

Helen

Helen Report 22 Jul 2017 13:25

My Father s dad who he never met, Frank R.Grieve , born 1900 in Cameron ,Fife ,Scotland., he left for Buffalo, New York ,have name ship he left on in 1924,
His father was David Grieve born 1833 , mother was Betty maiden name Spence,had brother David Grieve born 1866 , married a Mary Ann S.Grieve 1869 , they had no family , so these people all deceased now.
It s the Frank .R. Grieve 1900 , would love to know if he married , had any family , how do I find out more ? Thanks for your help Helen