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19 Jul 2017 21:29 |
Looking for a John Ivers born about 1860 Kiltmaugh, County Mayo Ireland. Would like to know about any family and who he was married to before he came to England. 1901 Census has him living at 24 St John Court Leamington and Also, a widow. he married again 1923 to a Emma Archer. Any help much appreciated.
Karen :-)
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alviegal
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19 Jul 2017 21:40 |
1911 for him? Married 9 years? 3 children born but 1 had died.
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4 Hewitts Cottages Hill Street Leamington, Leamington, Warwickshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place John Ivers Head Married Male Farm Labouer 50 1861 Kiltmaugh Ireland Transcription Emma Ivers - Married Female - 47 1864 Wootton Warwickshire Transcription Thomas Ivers - - Male - 8 1903 War Hewitts Cottages Leamington Transcription James Ivers - - Male - 6 1905 War Hewitts Cottages Leamington
and the 1901.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 24, John Street, Leamington, Leamington Priors, Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Luke Clark Head Single Male 68 1833 Retired General Labourer Ireland Transcription Ann Phillips Boarder Widow Female 68 1833 Housekeeper Bath, Somerset, England Transcription Walter Kiss Boarder Widower Male 68 1833 Tailor Warwick, Warwickshire, England Transcription John Branaghan Boarder Single Male 58 1843 Rag & Bone Collector Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription John Ivers Boarder Single Male 34 1867 General Labourer Ireland Transcription John Banbury Boarder Single Male 54 1847 Groom (Not Domestic) Leamington, Warwickshire, England Transcription David Shellard Boarder Single Male 62 1839 General Labourer Leamington, Warwickshire, England Transcription Emmer Archer Boarder Single Female 34 1867 Laundress Wootton, Warwickshire, England
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safc
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19 Jul 2017 21:47 |
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Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) John Last name Ivers Birth year - Baptism year 1865 Baptism date 23 Jul 1865 Parish Killedan Alternative parish names Kiltimagh Diocese Achonry County Mayo Country Ireland Father's first name(s) Pat Father's last name Ivers Mother's first name(s) Anne Mother's last name Lavin Repository National Library of Ireland National Library of Ireland link http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632343#page/1/mode/1up Register Baptism Record set Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Ireland
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GlasgowLass
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19 Jul 2017 22:52 |
Here is the birth cert from details given by safc.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/53808304
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20 Jul 2017 06:59 |
Leamington Spa Courier - Friday 03 April 1936
IVERS. —In loving memory our dear mother, Emma Ivers, who died March 31st 1926, also of our father, John Ivers, died May 16th, 1935. Ever in the thoughts of their Sons, Daughters-in-law and Grandchildren. "Their life a beautiful memory. Their death a silent grief.” ---------------------------------
Births of children:
IVERS, THOMAS (mmn: HOPE) GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 691
IVERS, JAMES (mmn: HOPE) GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 674
IVERS, MARY (mmn: HOPE) GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 641 ------------------------------------
Emma's marriage banns: Emma Eliza Hope Event Type Bann Marriage or Bann Date 6 Jun 1886 Marriage or Bann Place Leek Wootton, Warwickshire, England Parish Leek Wootton Spouse John Archer
?? Do you have the marriage certificate of John Ivers and Emma Archer??
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Maddie
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20 Jul 2017 10:49 |
Name: Patt Ivers Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 4 Feb 1858 Spouse's Name: Ane Lavan Parish: Killedan Diocese: Achonry County: Mayo First Witness: John Lavan Second Witness: Anne Graughe
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greyghost
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20 Jul 2017 11:02 |
? Death of Mary Ivers Birth Reg. Q4 1906. The GRO site can't distinguish anything other than years - so this could be 4 weeks or 4 months
Name: Age at Death (in years): IVERS, MARY 4 Order GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 441
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greyghost
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20 Jul 2017 11:06 |
Possibly James in 1939
Ivers Household (6 People) 36 Hill Street , Royal Leamington Spa M.B., Warwickshire, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER James Ivers 18 Apr 1905 Male Driller Of Aircraft Work Married 103 1 Jessie Ivers 31 Aug 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 103 2 James J G Ivers 06 Aug 1927 Male At School Single 103 3 Kathleen M Nicholas (Ivers) 27 Sep 1930 Female At School Single 103 4 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Thomas J Ivers 16 Jun 1939 Male Under School Age Single 103 6
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greyghost
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20 Jul 2017 11:07 |
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1926 (>99%) Boulter Elsie M Robbins Warwick 6d 1831 Ivers James Lethbridge Warwick 6d 1831 <<<<< Lethbridge Jessie Ivers Warwick 6d 1831 <<<< Robbins Harry Boulter Warwick 6d 1831
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greyghost
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20 Jul 2017 11:14 |
Births to the couple can be found for free on
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Enter Surname Ivers and Mothers surname Lethbridge and put range eg.1920-1950
and includes those shown on the 1939 register plus the closed record and a further birth in 1942 The 1939 register includes people born pre 1915 and those known to have died but were born after 1915 i.e. James JG, Kathleen who was Ivers but married a Nicholas and Thomas J, but excludes others (looks like a twin to Kathleen), showing them as closed records.
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greyghost
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20 Jul 2017 11:30 |
Possibly the 1905 marriage of the John Ivers whose baptism safc posted yesterday.
Image shows Father is Pat Ivers a Farmer. Marriage 22.3.1905 at Kiltamagh RC chapel. John a Farmer resident in ?Cortoon.
Possibly resident Cartron, Mayo 1911 census - John a Farmer aged 45, Mary 35 and children Annie Kate 5, John Patrick 3 with his Father Pat 85 and sister Bridget 54
Party 1 Name JOHN IVERS Party 2 Name MARY KELLY Date of Event 22 March 1905 Group Registration ID 1906817 SR District/Reg Area Swinford Image
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alviegal
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20 Jul 2017 11:54 |
Emma's marriage to John Archer?
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) EMMA ELIZA Last name HOPE Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1886 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ EMMA ELIZA HOPE married one of these people William John Privett, John Archer District Portsea Island District number - County Hampshire Country England Volume 2B Page 762
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GlasgowLass
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20 Jul 2017 12:13 |
Think you are correct Greyghost
John Ivers b 1865 to Patrick Ivers and Ann Lavan is not the person that Kaza is looking for.
The 1905 marriage does appear to be this one The address & name of his father both match and a witness was called Patrick LAVAN who married his sister Catherine
Back to the drawing board then.
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alviegal
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20 Jul 2017 12:25 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hill Wootton, Leek Wootton, Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Hope Head - Male 45 1826 - Warwickshire, England Transcription Mary Ann Hope Wife - Female 47 1824 - Warwickshire, England Transcription George Hope Son - Male 13 1858 - Warwickshire, England Transcription Fanny Hope Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Warwickshire, England Transcription >>Emma E Hope Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Warwickshire, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hill Wootton, Leek Wootton, Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Hope Head Married Male 55 1826 Ag Lab Leek Wootton, Warwickshire, England Transcription Mary Anne Hope Wife Married Female 58 1823 Ag Lab Wife Warwick, Warwickshire, England Transcription George Hope Son Single Male 22 1859 Ag Lab Leek Wootton, Warwickshire, England Transcription >>Emma Hope Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Dom Serv (Out Of Sitn) Leek Wootton, Warwickshire, England
I think this is them in 1891.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Broad Street, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Aicher Head Married Male 27 1864 Carman Smithfield, Warwickshire, England Transcription >>Emma Aicher Wife Married Female 26 1865 Hill Wotton? Transcription William Aicher Son Single Male 4 1887 - Hampshire, England Transcription Lillian Aicher Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Hampshire, England
John with his sons in 1901, still married though. By this time Emma is in Warwickshire saying she is single.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 36, Ivy Street, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Archer Head Married Male 27 1874 Carman Warwickshire, England Transcription William Archer Son - Male 14 1887 Shop Boy Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Transcription Frederick Archer Son - Male 7 1894 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Transcription Emma Burling Boarder Widow Female 28 1873 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Transcription Charles Burling Boarder - Male 7 1894 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Still described as married, Emma has, by this time, had another 2 children (possibly 3 if 1 had died) with John Ivers.
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 36 Ivy Street Southsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place John Archer Head Married Male Carman 48 1863 Snitterfield Warwick Transcription William Archer Son Married Male Labourer H M Dockyard 26 1885 Portsmouth Hants Transcription Emma Bunting Housekeeper Widow Female Housekeeper 49 1862 Portsmouth Hants Transcription Charlie Bunting Boarder - Male Carman 17 1894 Portsmouth Hants
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alviegal
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20 Jul 2017 12:42 |
John Archer died in 1921 probate to his son, William John. Emma was now free to marry.
Name John Archer Death Date 28 May 1921 Death Place Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Probate Date 12 Jul 1921 Registry London, England
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GlasgowLass
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20 Jul 2017 13:05 |
Having a look at BDMs in Kiltimagh in Mayo and Ivors/Ivers was a very common name.
There were multiple couples, all having children in the 1860's and many lived in the same area but they do look like they were all related?
I can't find any baptism for John at present but, most of the families that I found all had a son named Thomas.
The most obvious couple were called Thomas Ivors and Mary Walsh who married in 1856.
Thos Ivers Event Type Marriage Event Date 6 Feb 1856 Spouse's Name Mary Walsh Parish Killedan Diocese Achonry County Mayo First Witness John Doyle Second Witness Mary Walsh Household Members Name Age Thos Ivers Mary Walsh
1901: 2 Corrahoor, Kiltmagh Ivers Walter 28 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Ivers Margaret 25 Female Wife Roman Catholic Ivers Thomas Male Son Roman Catholic Ivers Thomas 71 Male Father Roman Catholic Ivers Mary 65 Female Mother Roman Catholic
Thomas Ivers at 10 Corrahoor was also a son born to this couple
Ivers Thomas 33 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Ivers Anne 27 Female Wife Roman Catholic Howlen John 60 Male Father in Law Roman Catholic Benson Patrick 7 Male Cousin Roman Catholic
Other couples having children in the same time period:
Patrick Ivers and Catherine Carroll John Ivers and Mary O' Donnell John Ivers and Mary Phillips Michael Ivers and Mary Walsh
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