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Hi all thanks for your help but the main family i am after is the Holt side elizabeth holt father john holt a bookkeeper in 1844 do not have the family before marriage to Joseph Richardson
I also dont know mother of Elizabeth i have gone through a lot of births for Elizabeth holt but so far nothing that is why i was wondering if anyone else is doing holt family
If john holt was a bookkeeper when Elizabeth married what would the chances be he was at Elizabeths birth ?
Susan

this looks to be correct 1851

Name: Joseph Richardson
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elisabeth Richardson
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Broughton
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Coach Proprieter

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Piece: 2222
Folio: 32
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Richardson 33
Elisabeth Richardson 32 born: Manchester, Lancashire, 1819
Elisabeth Richardson 3
Sarah A Richardson 1
Margret Kinsey 14 - Domestic Servant from Ireland

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=774273.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=735154.0

(relating?, from google search)

Chris :)

Edits (below on Genealogy Chat)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1367005

went to spec savers, clearly hasn't helped
:-)

Maddie,
Marriage cert. states Joseph Richardson occupation was Coach Maker and his
father, John was a Basket Maker

also

Susan states Elizabeth's address was Springfield Lane Manchester but cert. clearly states she was living Salford.
I know it's same area, but could make a difference when searching.

2nd marriage gives birth year

Name: Elizabeth Richardson
[Elizabeth Noth]
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 53
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1823
Marriage Date: 17 May 1876
Marriage Place: Salford, St Stephen, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Salford
Search Photos: Search for 'Salford, St Stephen' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: John Noth
Spouse: Thomas Look
Item Number: 1

????????
but he is a basket maker
Joseph Richardson

in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1901 (Cathedral)
Name: Joseph Richardson
Baptism Date: 19 May 1822
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: John Richardson
Mother's name: Elizabeth Richardson
Archive Roll: 758

1861
Name: Joseph Richardson
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Richardson
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Broughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Broughton [Near Salford]
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Piece: 2908
Folio: 89
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Richardson 39 ----- a coach proprieter
Elizabeth Richardson 35 b 1826 salford
Sarah Ann Richardson 11
James Richardson 6
John Richardson 2
William Richardson 4

If she was born in Cheshire, then maybe this one??

Elizabeth Holt
England, Cheshire Parish Registers
Name Elizabeth Holt
Event Type Christening
Event Date 05 Jul 1818
Event Place St John the Baptist, Knutsford, Cheshire, England
Gender Female
Father's Name John Holt
Mother's Name Elizabeth

...............lots of possible siblings to go with this one on familysearch. (looks like 2 different families)

??
Name: Elizabeth Holt
Birth Date: 16 Sep 1818
Baptism Date: 23 Sep 1821
Parish: Childwall, Lancashire, England
Search Photos: Search for 'Childwall' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: John Holt
Mother: Margaret Holt
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
Reference Number: Drl/2/13

Could this be Elizabeth in the 1851 census (using Eliza as her name):-

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Green Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Joseph Richardson Head Married Male 33 1818 Dry Salter Salford, Lancashire, England
Eliza Richardson Wife Married Female 33 1818 - Congleton, Cheshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Joseph Richardson Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
Eliza Richardson Dau - Female 6 1845 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
Amelia Richardson Dau - Female 6 1845 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth May Servant - Female 17 1834 General Servant Derbyshire, England

They are living in the parish of St. Mary's.

Kath. x

for ref
Name: Elizabeth Holt
Marriage Date: 27 Oct 1844
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: John Holt
Spouse's Name: Joseph Richardson
Spouse's Father's Name: John Richardson
Archive Roll: 710

witnesses thomas and mary richardson
joseph was a bookmaker

Hi i was wondering if anyone is researching the Holt, Richardson or cook familys.
I need help with Elizabeth holt who married Joseph Richardson in 1844
Her father is john holt and trade is a bookkeeper. Elizabeth residence on wedding certificate in springfield lane Manchester
After joseph died Elizabeth then married a thomas cook in 1876
And her father was a bookkeeper.
So if anyone is researching the family that could give my her birth or her mothers name i would appreciate it
Susan