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Thank you Maddie and Chris.

;o))

yes, not seeing on London Burials, but would say that was him...(and them 1891!)

Chris :)

poor selina didn't have long with Micheal if this is correct

MICHAEL
Last name DOWNEY
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1838
Age 57
Death quarter 4
Death year 1895
District Lambeth
County London
Volume 1D
Page 306
Country England

Yep, that's her Maddie.

;o))

1911 ???
Name: Selina Miller
Age in 1911: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Lodger
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Lambeth
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 2 Wingmore Road, Herne Hill S E
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: IRONER IN LAUNDRY ------
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration District Number: 25
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Piece: 2081
Household Members:
Name Age
George James Courtney 52
Elizabeth Courtney 50
Harold John Courtney 22
Selina Miller 68


Name: Selina Miller
Birth Date: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Mar 1917
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1d
Page: 439

I saw that record Chris........I dismissed it as Selina (A Widow) appears as Selina Miller on the the 1901 census, with her married daughter Eliza.

Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
Hussey Thomas Owen St. Saviour 1d 299
Miller Eliza Ann St. Saviour 1d 299

Selina Miller in the 1901 England Census
Name: Selina Miller
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Brixton, London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton

Thomas Hussey 32
Eliza Hussey 29
Thomas Hussey 7
Ellen Hussey 5
Louisa Hussey 1
Selina Miller 58 (Widow)>>>>> Laundry General Ironer <<<<<

Looking at her occupation on the 1891 census.......i do think that's her though!

I am not seeing a marriage to fit.........so it seems she was just "Co-habitating" with Michael Downing/Downey/Downy.

This is how the 1891 appears on Ancestry.......

Michell Downey 52
Lelina Downey 49
Henry Miller 24
Eliga Miller 20

:-S :-S

(will leave you below, as can't stay, but not sure?)

Chris :)

1891 (Find My Past) (could be Downey?)
Michael Downing Head Married Male 52 1839 Brick Layers Laborer London, Middlesex, England
Selina Downing Wife Married Female 49 1842 Ironer London, Middlesex, England
Henry Miller Stepson Single Male 24 1867 Carman London, Middlesex, England
Eliza Miller Stepdaughter Single Female 20 1871 General Servant London, Middlesex, England
Belinda Road, Lambeth, London,
Town Brixton
Parish Lambeth
County London, Surrey
Registration district Lambeth
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 416
Folio 120
Page 19


(Lambeth Brixton 1893 Michael Downy, 15 Belinda Road. London, Electoral)

Please can anyone find Selina and her 2 children on the 1891 census.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Moat Place, Lambeth, London, England

Selina Miller Boarder Head Widow Female 39 1842 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
Henry A Miller Son Single Male 15 1866 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
Eliza Ann Miller Daughter Single Female 10 1871 - Lambeth, Surrey, England


Henry Alexander born 1867........Married Nov 1891...Gives Residence as...3 Amelia Street.

Eliza Ann born 1870........Married 1893

All i need is the 1891 census thank you.

Hi Maddie the census i posted for Elizabeth in West Ham.......is the 1901.

Thank you both.

I will have to do some research on her children to see if any of them were in West Ham in 1901.

(and the other one looks to be below, but credits needed to view)

Chris :)

Burial Register summary

MILLER ELIZABETH
Burial date 09 April 1904
Authority London Borough of Newham
Location West Ham Cemetery (Newham)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

there is this one in lambeth but southwark is a borough in its own right

Name: Elizabeth Miller
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Lambeth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 3

edit can rule that out as living in norwood
Name: Elizabeth Miller
Record Type: Burial
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Death Date: abt 1900
Burial Date: 25 Jul 1900
Burial Place: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Comments: Reused graves at Norwood; see the database description for a link



i wonder who the family are supporting the 1911 elizabeth,
can't see her in west ham in 1901 so might be a good bet
but it may mean wasting money on the certificate

Hi again everyone

I have been trying to find the death of Elzabeth Miller nee Sharp born 1831 Tonbridge, Kent.

I have managed to trace her up to the 1891 census

1871 England Census
Census & Electoral Rolls
Name: Elizabeth Miller (Widow) Milliner
Birth: abt 1842 - Tunbridge, Kent, England
Residence: 1871 - St George the Martyr Southwark, London, England

1881 England Census
Census & Electoral Rolls
Name: Elizabeth Miller (Widow) Dressmaker
Birth: abt 1831 - Tunbridge, Kent, England
Residence: 1881 - Southwark St George Martyr, London, England
27 Lant Street


1891 England Census
Census & Electoral Rolls
Name: Elizabeth Miller (Widow) Dressmaker
Birth: abt 1831 - Tunbridge, Kent, England
Residence: St George the Martyr, London
27 Lant Street

Please can anyone find a buriel record between 1891 and 1901 that might match the above info?

Or maybe this is Elizabeth on the 1901 census.....

??

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
15, Dunmow Road, West Ham, London, England

Elizabeth Miller Head Widow Female 70 1831 (Supported By Family) Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England

Deaths Jun 1904 (>99%)
MILLER Elizabeth 73 W. Ham 4a 71

Prickles ;o))

lol PH, so glad we have got you this far!, and nice to be able to help 'one of our own' for a change, been a while since I last went to Clavering! (and long before Jamie Oliver fame!) pretty place.

Course, next step now, 'Search All Member Trees', lol...

Chris :)

This research all stems from the thread i posted last week, regarding the death of David Porter.

I had no intention of mentioning his father (My 3x Grt Grandfather) Daniel Porter born 1797 Clavering, Essex on that thread. I gave up finding any further information about him a long, long time ago.

Well, i did mention him on the off chance, just to see if anyone could find a baptism.........i didn't hold out much hope though.

Then Voila!.........Out pops Chris Ho with the baptism.

My eyes nearly popped out of my head.

So............with the info Maddie gave me and Chris Ho for pointing me in the direction of Freereg........(Actually, i need a slap because Chris has often pointed me in the direction of Freereg and i always forget to look on there!) i was on a roll.

Thanks to Chris Ho, Chris in Sussex has sent me loads of attachments of full batism, marriage and buriel records relating to my Porter's which has enabled me to go back two further generations.

Spotting an Eliza Miller born 1798 clavering Essex on the 1851 census set the ball rolling on this search.

Eliza was the sister of Daniel..... so my 4th Grt Aunt who i didn't even know ever existed until a few days ago.

I am extremely thrilled, delighted and grateful to all of you for all your time in helping me to discover about Eliza, her children and their descendants.

I even have one on the 1939 Register.............how amazing is that!!

I still have a long way to go with all the info but it's a fabulous journey.

Thank you so much everyone...........Prickles. :-D <3

don't help

Name: Henry Alexander Miller
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Age: 24
Spouse: Mary Ann Sadler
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Nov 1891
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Henry Alexander Miller ----------- deceased
Register Type: Parish Register

Well that looks very interesting Austin.

My head is in a bit of a muddle so i need to take a short break. :-S

The marriage of William and Eliza is still a mystery.

I presume this is Eliza's death?

First name(s) ELIZA
Last name MILLER
Gender Female
Birth year 1795
Age 71
Death quarter 2
Death year 1866
District Lambeth
County London
Volume 1D Page 238
-----------------------------------------------------------

I might be clutching at straws but wondered if this was related?

Both were widowed- they seem to have had Banns read i 1823, 1824 and 1825 and then finally married in 1825 Southwark

Name: Harriet Eliza Tomkins
Spouse: William Milner
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 4 May 1823
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Struggling to find anything about anything today!

Thank you very much for that information Andrew and thank you especially for posting the Miller/Hook marriage.

;o))

Marriage for Eliza Ann Miller. Father Alexander. No occupation.

Witnesses Henry Alexander Miller(Eliza brother) and Mary Ann Miller

Name: Eliza Ann Miller
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Age: 22
Spouse: Thomas Owen Hussey
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Oct 1893
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Alexander Miller
Spouse Father: Thomas Hussey
Register Type: Parish Register


1901

Name: Selina Miller
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Brixton, London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude East Brixton
Town: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 430
Folio: 9
Page Number: 10
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hussey 32
Eliza Hussey 29
Thomas Hussey 7
Ellen Hussey 5
Louisa Hussey 1
Selina Miller 58

Best death for Selina 1917 I think

Andy

Thank you Austin and Maddie.

There is also no birth registered for an Alexander Henry Miller between 1839...1841

All this research...........it's a wonder my laptop hasn't overheated. ;o))