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Birth of George William Stanley 1858-1910 ??

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2017 16:44

Ha ha! Or rather, tut tut, James!

In 1911 he was a groom. He must have moved on from horses to cars, as so many people did, keeping up with modern inventions.

Thanks for that, Chris. I love these little snippets, which bring the people to life.

(Mr Duff is James Robertson Duff, gas engineer, in 1911 living with wife and son at Gas Works House, Banbury.)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Jun 2017 13:24

(probably him alive below in 1924!, thinks also that 'third' reference was a mistake)

Chris :)

17 July 1924 - Banbury Guardian - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

James T. Stanley, Bodicote. was charged with driving a motor vehicle to the danger of the public Bloxlham on June 21...

(was sober, he had been driving for 19 years, first complaint made against him, car a Wolseley, owned by a Mr. Duff, of Banbury Gas Works)


Edits

21 November 1918 - Banbury Advertiser - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

Military Medallist.
Private Albert Stanley, of the Roval Munster Fusiliers, son of the late Mr. G. W Stanley, of Bodicote, was presented with the Military Medal in France on the 23rd October. He won the medal for conspicuous gallantry.


07 February 1918 - Banbury Advertiser - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

In Memoriam.
In loving memory of Driver G. W. Stanley. R.F.A., of Bodicote, killed in action 31st December, 1917, aged 29 years.

Some day we hope to meet him.
Some day - we know not when
To clasp his hand in the better land,
Never to part again.
From his sorrowing wife, mother, brothers and sisters.


02 January 1919 - Banbury Advertiser - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

In Memoriam
Stanley - In loving memory of Gunner G.W. Stanley, killed in action, near Ypres, December 31st 1917.

Greater love hath no man than this,
that a man lay down his life for his friends.


Stanley - In ever loving memory of Driver G.W. Stanley, son of the late G.W. Stanley, Bodicote, who was killed in action, December 31st 1917.

All tears are vain, we cannot now recall thee,
Gone is thy loving voice, thy kindly face,
Gone from the home where we so dearly loved thee,
Where none again can ever fill thy place.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2017 12:45

Thanks for the 1939, Chris.
Incidentally, the daughter Iris died just after that, in 4th qr 1939 - I've just looked it up!

Re the third son killed -

hmmm - Albert died 7/11/1918, as reported.
"Third" son must be a mistake.

Unless they mean Mary Ann's stepson (Alice Boffin's son) James Thomas Stanley, born 1880 in Bodicote, Oxon.
I don't know when or where he died.
I have him in 1911, in Bodicote, with wife Amy and son George.
Amy died in Banbury district in 1970, though I can't see her in 1939.

This may be James's death, but the age is wrong, so maybe it's not him
Deaths Dec 1956 (>99%)
Stanley James T 79 Banbury 6b 818

Otherwise, "third" son must be a mistake.


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Jun 2017 12:12

(below says third son?...)

Edits (some on below)

http://www.theygavetheirtoday.com/bodicote.html

Chris :)

28 November 1918 - Banbury Advertiser - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

Bodicete Man Killed in Action.
A few days after the signing of the armistice. the sad news reached Mrs. G. W. Stanley that her son. Private A. Stanley, Royal Munster Fusiliers, had been killed in action. This is the third son of Mrs. Stanley who has fallen...


1939 Register (Find My Past)

On? (looks like Kent on image) House Ivy Hall,High Street , Guildford R.D., Surrey,
Ada Elizabeth Stanley 04 Jun 1883 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Henry Stanley 20 Oct 1889 Male Journeyman Baker Married
Iris Stanley 25 Feb 1926 Female At School Single
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
George Ford 14 Apr 1914 Male Carpenter Single
James Wallace 05 Feb 1891 Male Hotel Porter Single


Births Mar 1926 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
Stanley Iris N Courtney Hambledon 2a 281


Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------------
COURTNEY Ada Elizabeth Chertsey 2a 136
STANLEY Henry Chertsey 2a 136

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2017 12:05

Have just found Henry with wife in 1939, living in Guildford.

Please, can someone look up Ada Elizabeth Stanley 1883, in Guildford? Living with Henry Stanley and 3 more people, and 1 closed record.

Thanks!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2017 11:38

Many thanks for all that, Chris.
Yes, that's his death in 1910. He died of "cerebral softening" and exhaustion.

He married twice, first to Alice Boffin, and they had three sons, including the one who died in infancy in 1882.

Alice died in 1883, soon after the birth of the third son.
George remarried in 1886, to Mary Ann Butler, with whom he had eight more children.

Mrs G Stanley should therefore be Mrs M A Stanley, though maybe they put in the G to identify her, as there were lots of Stanleys in the area at the time, and Mary Ann is a very common name.

Of the sons in the list of war service, George William died in Belgium in 1917, and Albert died in France in 1918.
The rest all survived and all lived into the 1970's.

Well, I'm not sure about Henry. That 1916 list is the last definite sighting of him - it's a very common name. He married in 1909, probably because his first daughter was on the way. In 1911 he's at a different address from his wife and daughter, and stepson.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Jun 2017 07:53

(him below AG?)

Chris :)

Deaths Jun 1910 (>99%)
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Stanley George William 53 Banbury 3a 518

(below appear)


07 July 1910 - Banbury Advertiser - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

Death
Stanley - July 18, at Wykham Lane, Bodicote, George William Stanley, aged 53 years.


22 June 1911 - Banbury Advertiser - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

Stanley - ln loving memory of George William Stanley, who died Bodicote, June 18,1910, aged 64 years.

(think a couple of mistakes!)


22 June 1916 - Banbury Advertiser - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

In Memoriam
In loving remembrance of George William Stanley, of Bodicote, who passed away June 18 1910.

Day after day we saw him fade
And gently sink away ;
Yet often in our hearts we prayed
That he might longer stay.
Not gone from memory, not gone from love,
But gone to his heavenly home above.


10 August 1882 - Banbury Advertiser - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

Death
Stanley - August 4, at Bodicote, George, son of George William Stanley, aged 2 days.


STANLEY, GEORGE (BOFFIN)
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 818


27 July 1916 - Banbury Advertiser - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

A Good Family Record.
Mrs G. Stanley, a widow of Bodicote has six sons serving in His Majesty's Forces, George William Stanley, in the Royal Field Artillery; Private Henry Stanley, a baker in the Army Service Corps: Sergt. Horace William Stanley, Royal Army Medical Corns; Private Albert Stanley. Oxon. and Bucks. Light Infantry : Private Ernest Arthur Stanley and Private Frank Edward Stanley, both in the Mounted Transport Army Service Corps. Five of them are serving abroad (2 in Salonica and 3 in France)

(should that be Mrs. A?)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Jun 2017 00:51

confusing to the extreme :-D

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jun 2017 22:08

Just a footnote -

George's sister Mary Ann (my gr-grandmother) married her cousin Joseph (another pair of cousins marrying), son of Elizabeth's sister Caroline.

And Mary Ann also became the mother-in-law of George's second wife's nephew Frederick Butler (my grandfather).

That side of my tree is littered with confusing explanatory notes and double entries!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jun 2017 21:53

Thanks, all.

Elizabeth wasn't a widow - this is her baptism:

Elizabeth Sabin
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
2 September 1832
DRAYTON BY BANBURY, OXFORD, ENGLAND
father:
John Sabin
mother:
Mary


I think it must be that somehow his birth wasn't registered, as RG says.
At least I'm not the only one who can't see it!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Jun 2017 21:14

Perhaps his birth wasn't registered.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Jun 2017 20:37

Was Elizabeth perhaps a widow when she married, so Sabin is not her maiden name??

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Jun 2017 20:19

Could have saved you those pennies AG!...

Chris :)

25 November 1858 - Banbury Advertiser - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

Birth
Nov. 20, at Shutford. the wife of William Stanley of a son.

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jun 2017 19:09

This man's birth is a mystery.

His stated parents (per censuses) married in 1859:

Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%)
Sabin Elizabeth Banbury 3a 773
Stanley Wm Banbury 3a 773

Here's the family in 1861 (and I have all the other census throughout his life, thanks - they all say the same thing - son, born 1858, Drayton, Oxon. I also have his marriages and children, so please don't bother with any of that.) :

George William Stanley
in the 1861 England Census
Name: George William Stanley
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: 1858
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Stanley
Mother's name: Elizabeth Stanley
Gender: Male
Where born: Drayton, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Drayton
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Banbury
Sub-registration district: Swalcliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Piece: 915
Folio: 42
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
William Stanley 35
Elizabeth Stanley 28
George William Stanley 3
Mary Ann Stanley 1 (my gr-grandmother)


As far as I can see, there were only two George Stanleys born in Banbury reg district around that time, and none with middle name William. Neither of them seems to be "my" George. I did wonder if perhaps his father had had a dalliance with another woman before his marriage (hence possibly different mms) , and had taken responsibility for the child, but that doesn't seem to be the case after all. He doesn't appear to have had an earlier marriage, either. He was single in 1851.

This is one of them:
STANLEY, GEORGE mms WELLS
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in BANBURY UNION Volume 03A Page 585

but he died in infancy:
STANLEY, GEORGE 0
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in BANBURY UNION Volume 03A Page 415


This is the other one:
STANLEY, GEORGE mms GARDNER
GRO Reference: 1858 D Quarter in BANBURY UNION Volume 03A Page 587

He's the son of a William Stanley right enough, but his mother was Alice Gardner. They lived at Shutford West, Banbury (per his birth cert, on which I've wasted another £9.25 !), and he's with his parents in 1861, 1871, and 1881, and with his wife in 1891, always in Shutford.

There's also a George Watkins Stanley, 1856, son of Eli and Emma, and with them in 1861 & 1871.

There's a William Stanley, born 1858, died 1861.

So -
I can't find the birth of "my" George William Stanley.
He wasn't born as Sabin, either.

Can any of you eagle-eyed people spot something I've missed, please?