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Thank you Austin Q and Chris Ho once again. I feel better too about this one.

Nala.

(just couldn't see the 'wood for the trees' first thing, lol)

Chris :)

Thimblemill Road 1939 register looks correct:

fits with this birth:

First name(s) EMILY
Last name SHEWARD
Birth year 1883
Birth quarter 2
District Droitwich
County Worcestershire
Volume 6C Page 385

Mother's maiden name Tolley.
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hartlebury Comm, Hartlebury, Worcestershire, England

George Sheward Head Single Male Holloware Moulder 31 1880 Worc Hartlebury Parish
Martha Sheward Mother Widow Female - 61 1850 Worc Hartlebury Parish
Emily Sheward Sister Single Female Enamel Dipper 27 1884 Worc Hartlebury Parish

Thanks again Chris.

http://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/hine-family-smethwick-aston-kings-norton.12208/

(above from google search, has 1905 Sheward/Jones couple, gives below)

Chris :)

Now for my great grandfathers children. William Hine/ Emily Jones
They are all born in Aston district: As yet I have no birth certificates so cannot provide an address.

Ethel 1906
Edward 1907
Hilda 1908
George (Harry?) 1909
Frank 1914 (25.12)


(Emily Sheward references)

1891 (Find My Past)
Frederick Sheward Head Married Male 48 1843 Hinge Caster In Foundry Worcestershire, England
Martha Sheward Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Worcestershire, England
Jane Sheward Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Packer In Enamel Works Worcestershire, England
Edwin Sheward Son Single Male 16 1875 Catcher In Tin Plate Works Worcestershire, England
Ada Sheward Daughter - Female 15 1876 Servant Domestic Hartlebury, Worcestershire, England
Mary Ann Sheward Daughter - Female 14 1877 Servant Domestic Worcestershire, England
Leah Sheward Daughter - Female 13 1878 Scholar Worcestershire, England
George Sheward Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Worcestershire, Englan
Harry Sheward Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Worcestershire, England
Emily Sheward Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Worcestershire, England
Alfred Sheward Son - Male 2 1889 - Hartlebury, Worcestershire, England
Street Hartlebury Common
Town Hartlebury
Parish Hartlebury
County Worcestershire
Registration district Droitwich
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2342
Folio 77
Page 15


1901 (Find My Past)
Martha Sheward Head Widow Female 52 1849 Household Work Hartlebury, Worcestershire, England
Ada Sheward Daughter Single Female 26 1875 Cook Domestic Hartlebury, Worcestershire, England
George Sheward Son Single Male 21 1880 Moulders Of Bottles Hartlebury Common, Worcestershire, England
Henry J Sheward Son Single Male 19 1882 Moulders Of Bottles Hartlebury Common, Worcestershire, England
Emily Sheward Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Enamel Dipper Hartlebury Common, Worcestershire, England
Alfred J Sheward Son Single Male 12 1889 - Hartlebury Common, Worcestershire, England
Elsie M Sheward Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Hartlebury Common, Worcestershire, England
Street Worcester Road
Town Lower Mitton
Parish Hartlebury
County Worcestershire
Registration district Droitwich
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 2794
Folio 75
Page 12


Deaths Dec 1893 (>99%)
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Sheward Frederick 46 Kidderminster 6c 135


(other, with Baptism given by Wendy, Notts)

1891 (Find My Past)
Edward Sheward Head Married Male 36 1855 Railway Signal Fitter Worcestershire, England
Harriett Sheward Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Nottinghamshire, England
Edith Sheward Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Nottinghamshire, England
Harriett E Sheward Daughter - Female 9 1882 - Nottinghamshire, England
Ada Sheward Daughter - Female 7 1884 - Carlton, Nottinghamshire, England
Emily Sheward Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Nottinghamshire, England
Edward H Sheward Son - Male 3 1888 - Nottinghamshire, England
Street Freeman Terrace
Town Carlton
Parish Carlton
County Nottinghamshire
Registration district Basford
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2678
Folio 76
Page 6


Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Hine William Sheward Kidderminster 6c 453
Sheward Emily Hine Kidderminster 6c 453


Christenings of Children of Edward and Harriet Sheward:

Nottsgirl Report 20 Nov 2011 08:51

Hi Alan,

Christenings of Children of Edward and Harriet Sheward:

9 Feb 1879 Edith All Hallows Church Gedling
14 April 1882 Harriett Elizabeth All Hallows Church Gedling
11 Aug 1886 Emily born 16 July 1886 St Paul's Church Carlton
21 Dec 1887 Edward Henry born 5 Oct 1887 St Paul's Carlton
26 Feb 1890 Albert born 11 Jan 1890 St Paul's Carlton
25 May 1892 Ernest William born 24 April 1892 St Paul's Carlton
Father down as Signal Fitter all christenings.

There is also a William son of Henry and Harriet on 11 Nov 1880 at All Hollows Church Gedling Henry is down as a Signal Fitter I wonder if this should have been Edward??
William was buried at All Hallows on 2 Jan 1881 aged 2 months and 3 weeks.

Sorry no Ada on my disc's so will have a look at church records next time I'm at the archives

Wendy


Edits (and the more I look, the more I'm confused at present, will leave you to have a 'sort, lol, must be orf' now anyway)


(adds below also)

1939 Register (Find My Past)

190 Thimblemill Road , Smethwick C.B., Staffordshire,
Emily Hine 13 May 1883 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
William Hine 31 Aug 1882 Male Weightridge Man Iron & Ferrous Metals

Good morning Shirley, Choccy and Chris Ho.

I am very sorry that I have not got back to you before now.

(I was on call and due to sickness I had to cover for them aswell, Got home at 11pm last night ,36 hrs later !! )

I thank you all for looking int this family and my request. There must be 2 parraell families with William and Emily in them.

I think I have put together the wrong information myself and now looking at my tree I need to delete and arrange a few things.

I do know for certain that Emily Sheward, 1883 daughter of Frederick and Martha are mine. I will buy a marriage certificate of Emily and William and go from there !!

Thanks for your patience and kindness in helping me and in the mean time I will try progressing wit another sibling of Emily.

Kind regards from Nala.

??

1939 Register

Lupton Household (4 People)
Woodgate House Weeton , Wetherby R.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England


>>>>Emily Sheward 16 Jun 1886 Female Working Housekeeper Single 67 2
Olive C Lupton 15 Dec 1889 Female Private Mason Single 67 1
?
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Alan Sheward (Sherwood) 16 Apr 1932 Male At School Single 67 4


NB birth date of Emily Sheward could possibly read 16th July, not June as transcribed

NB Alan Sheward was born in 1932 (Bradford district), mother's maiden name Cordingley.
There is a marriage of an Arthur Sheward and Elsie Cordingley on 15th September 1923, Bradford district. (father's name Edward, a Fitter)
Emily Sheward had a brother Arthur, born 1899.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

476 Woodborough Road Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England


S James Pentecost Head Married Male Lace Blancher Dyer And Domestic 47 1864 Nottingham
Helena Pentecost Wife Married Female - 47 1864 Nottingham New Baxford
Leonard S Pentecost Son Single Male Lace Dyer And Drener 20 1891 Nottingham
Enid H Pentecost Daughter Single Female School 17 1894 Nottingham
Eric L C Pentecost Son Single Male School 14 1897 Nottingham
Marguerite T Pentecost Daughter Single Female School 11 1900 Nottingham
Alexandra Davidson Servant Single Female Housemaid Domestic 26 1885 Freserburgh
>>>>>Emily Sheward Servant Single Female Cook Domestic 24 1887 Carlton

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007?


Name: Emily Sheward
Birth: abt 1886
Death: Dec 1962 - Basford, Nottinghamshire, England



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995


Name: Emily Sheward

Death Date: 30 Oct 1962

Death Place: Nottinghamshire, Nottingham, England

Probate Date: 29 Nov 1962

Registry: Nottingham, England

of 20 Southdale Road, Carlton, Notts, spinster, died at 22 Loughborough Road, West Bridgford
Probate to Ernest William Sheward, retired civil servant and Ivy Ruth Phipps, spinster
Effects - £286 18s

Or below?...

Chris :)

SHEWARD, EMILY (TOLLEY)
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in DROITWICH Volume 06C Page 385


Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
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Sheward Frederick Droitwich 6c 575
TOLLEY Martha Droitwich 6c 575

Edits

HINE, WILLIAM (BLOOMER)
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 228


Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%)
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BLOOMER Ellen Rebekah Kidderminster 6c 230
HINE John Kidderminster 6c 230


http://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/hine-family-smethwick-aston-kings-norton.12208/

(relates to 1905 William Hine/ Emily Jones Marriage)

Was that her below?...

SHEWARD, EMILY (SALOM)
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 227


SHEWARD, ADA (SALVIN)
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 237


Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
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SALVIN Harriet Basford 7b 295
SHEWARD Edward Basford 7b 295

Chris :)

Nala Report 19 Nov 2011 22:27

Hello Wendy.

Could i ask you if you would be so kind as to look up the Baptisms of Ada Sheward born 1884 and Emily Sheward born 1887 in Carlton Notts. please?

Their parents are Edward Sheward and Harriet (Salvin). Edward worked for the Railways.

When you have time please. Regards Alan S.


Nottsgirl Report 20 Nov 2011 08:51

Hi Alan,

Christenings of Children of Edward and Harriet Sheward:

11 Aug 1886 Emily born 16 July 1886 St Paul's Church Carlton

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name HINE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1885
Age 68
Death quarter 2
Death year 1953
District Birmingham
County Warwickshire
Volume 9C
Page 334

EMILY
Last name HINE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1883
Age 80
Death quarter 3
Death year 1963
District Birmingham
County Warwickshire
Volume 9C
Page 368
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007



First name(s) HILDA
Last name HINE
Gender Female
Birth day 8
Birth month 8
Birth year 1908
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1979
District Birmingham
County Warwickshire
Volume 32
Page 0210
Country England

This is more in keeping with his occupation on the 1901 census and he was born in Worcestershire

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
211 Warren Road Washwood Heath Birmm, Aston, Warwickshire, England


William Hine Head Married Male Toolmaking For Wood Cutting 26 1885 Wosterhsire Kidderminster Transcription
Emily Hine Wife Married Female - 28 1883 Staffordshire Smethwich Transcription
Ethel Hine Daughter - Female - 4 1907 Warwickshire Aston Manor Transcription
Edward John Hine Son - Male - 3 1908 Warickshire Aston Manor Transcription
Hilda Hine Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Warrickshire Aston Manor Transcription
George Harry Hine Son - Male - 1 1910 Warrickshire Aston Manor Transcription

Good Morning Shirley.

Thank you for your findings and the kind help that you give me.

Nala :-)

Change of occupation again

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
172 Cape Hill Smethwick, Smethwick, Worcestershire, England

William Hine Lodger Single Male Anneater Brass And Copper. 28. 1883

Worcestershire,Stourport

Is this him in 1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
82, Exeter Road, Smethwick (Staffordshire), Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Hine Head Married Male 40 1861 Sawyer Timber Mill Arley, Shropshire, England Transcription
Ellen R Hine Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Cookley, Worcestershire, England Transcription
Ernest H Hine Son Single Male 19 1882 Woodworking Machinist Cookley, Worcestershire, England Transcription
Ellen E Hine Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Fancy Leather Belt Machinist Cookley, Worcestershire, England Transcription
William Hine Son Single Male 16 1885 Wood Working Machinist Cookley, Worcestershire, England Transcription
Louisa Hine Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Linen Button Warehouse Hand Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Emma J Hine Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Levi Hine Son Single Male 11 1890 - Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Arthur J Hine Son Single Male 9 1892 - Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Transcription
George Hine Son Single Male 6 1895 - Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Transcription
May Hine Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Florence V Hine Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Census details
Other household member first name(s)

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Hine Household (3 People)
68 Treaford Lane , Birmingham C.B., Warwickshire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
William Hine 30 Jun 1884 Tool Maker Chargehand
Emily Hine 25 Dec 1883 Unpaid Domestic
Hilda Hine 08 Aug 1908 Incapacitated
Ref: RG101/5572B/005/21 Letter Code: QBJQ
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There is a Hilda Hine mmn jones born 1908 which could be this marriage

Marriages Sep 1905
Hine William King's N. 6c 764
JONES Emily King's N. 6c 764

Not seeing a birth for an Emily sheward for the birth date given

Well you can check on FreeBMD for any possible children