I'm sorry if I've upset people which wasn't the intention.
I thought it would be better to delete than people having to plough through old information. By the way I have the marriage certificate of Ellen Jones and Frederick Johnson .Hewitt. They married on the 26th September, 1889 in Minerva Wrexham. That's how I knew Hugh Jones was her father. On the certificate he's just listed as a miner.
I've written to Chris, patchem and Andy to apologise.
If I ever post again I'll remember not to delete. Pat
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Pat .................
why did you delete the thread???
All threads are stored on GR's own server, not on your computer. So it is not taking up space.
The advice is always to leave threads up
As you see from this thread, Chris found some information later.
Plus, other GR members use Search to find names that they might be interested in, and so you might have found a contact months or years from now.
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Sorry I deleted the thread as I didn't think anything could be added to it. I copied alll the information, printed it and put it in a file for reference so it hasn't gone to waste. Thank you for your input. Pat
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Seems that way then Andy!.
Patchem was the Frederick Hewitt one, I added yesterday morning (witnesses on 1889 Marriage, Father of Hugh Jones on his Marriage, and possible Baptism of Hugh)
Oh well, that was that then, lol. Finished with it now!.
Chris :)
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Do you mean this one (partially tidied up)
Patricia 4 Jun 2017 23:43 Ellen Jones was born 1869 and married Frederick Johnson Hewitt on the 26.09.1889 in Minera. Wrexham. According to the marriage certificate her father was Hugh Jones (miner but not coal). Hugh I think was born in Llarnarmon about 1833. I don't know who her mother was but it has been said she was Hannah A Roberts born about 1834 in Dongelly Would it be possible for someone to confirm that this is correct and if do did Ellen have siblings. I know it's difficult to trace a family called Jones in Wales but I would be grateful. Pat
patchem 23:47 Have you found Ellen with her family in 1871 and/or 1881 censuses? Where do you believe Ellen was born? Added: Do you mean Llanarmon for Hugh's birthplace?
safc 23:51 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Oak Cottage, Waste Lane, Thelwall, Warrington, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Frederick Johnson Hewitt Head Married Male 22 1869 Agricultural Labourer Thelwall, Cheshire, England Transcription Ellen Hewitt Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Minera, Derbyshire, England Transcription Annie Hewitt Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Grappenhall, Cheshire, England
Andrew 23:52 Hugh? 1871. No Ellen, but Eleanor. Name: Hugh Jones Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Jones Gender: Male Where born: Llanarmon, Denbighshire, Wales Civil Parish: Minera Ecclesiastical parish: Minera Town: Plas Gwyn County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales Registration district: Wrexham Sub-registration district: Wrexham ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 107 Piece: 5656 Folio: 107 Page Number: 20 >>>>>Hugh Jones 37 Lead Miner Hannah Jones 36 Robt Jones 14 Ann Jones 8 Eleanor Jones 7 Harriet Jones 5 Hugh Jones 3 William Jones 1 Year, 2 Months Gabriel Jones 15 Andy
safc 23:56 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Weaste Lane Farm Thelwall Near Warrington, Cheshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Frederick Hewitt Head Married Male Steelworks Labourer 42 1869 Thelwall Cheshire Transcription Ellen Hewitt Wife Married Female - 46 1865 Minera N Wales Transcription Annie Hewitt Daughter Single Female Domestic 21 1890 Thelwall Transcription Elizabeth Hewitt Daughter Single Female Domestic 18 1893 Thelwall Transcription Edith Hewitt Daughter Single Female Assisting At Home 14 1897 Thelwall Transcription Gladys Hewitt Daughter Single Female School 10 1901 Thelwall Transcription Mary Hewitt Daughter Single Female - 0 1911 Thelwall
Andrew 5 Jun 2017 00:02 Possible for her birth? Would fit with 1891/1911 alreday posted JONES, ELLEN ROBERTS Order GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in HOLYWELL Volume 11B Page 282 Andy
Andrew 00:04 Possible parents marriage Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1855 (>99%) JONES Hugh Wrexham 11b 421 ROBERTS Hannah Wrexham 11b 421 Andy
patchem 00:05 1891 for Family from 1871: Hannah Jones Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Dolgelley, Merionethshire, Wales Civil Parish: Minera Ecclesiastical parish: Minera Town: Minera County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales Registration district: Wrexham Sub registration district: Wrexham ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 4616 Folio: 97 page Number: 27 Hannah Jones 57 widowed Robert Jones 33 Harriet Jones 25 William Jones 21 Hannah Jones 16 Ancestry.com. 1891 Wales Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
patchem 00:11 1881 census for family? Hannah Jones Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Dolgellau Civil Parish: Minera County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales Street address: Pentre Bais Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Registration district: Wrexham Sub registration district: Ruabon ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 5517 Folio: 99 Page Number: 24 Hannah Jones 47 Robert Jones 24 William Jones 11 Sarah Jones 9 Hannah Jones 6 Robert Jones 18 Class: RG11; Piece: 5517; Folio: 99; Page: 24; GSU roll: 1342326
patchem 00:19 This might be the Eleanor from 1871: JONES, ELEANOR ROBERTS GRO Reference: 1864 S Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 307 (but if she was 7 on that census, birth would be in 1863 or early 1864 - and there are several births for that)
Andrew 00:19 Possible for Ellen/Eleanor 1881 Name: Ellen Jones Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Minera, Denbighshire, Wales Civil Parish: Bersham County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales Street address: Coed Poeth Cross Foxes Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Gen Serv Registration district: Wrexham Sub registration district: 3A ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5515 Folio: 110 Page Number: 51 List of names removed Andy
patchem 06:29 Patricia, Why do you believe her birth year was 1869? Do you know when and where she died? Thanks Added: Possibly Frederick's death: Frederick J Hewitt Birth Date: abt 1869 died age 59 Date of Registration: Mar 1928 Registration district: Runcorn
patchem 06:46 Frederick Hewitt is in a tree on ancestry. It has him marrying Ellen Jones (unknown parents) born 1865, 5 of their children, and Ellen's death in 1918 at age 53. It gives further information on Gladys Hewitt.
ADDED: I cannot see 'one below' - so has that been deleted also?
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Looks like its been deleted.
Andy :-(
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Where did it go?...related to below (her Father, Hugh Jones)
Chris :)
Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hewitt Frederick Johnson Wrexham 11b 321 Jones Ellen Wrexham 11b 321
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