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Sorry it is Mary carnt read my writing its Mary Betney

Snap Mary :-)

Looking at this census showing Joseph and Ephriam, it would appear that Ephraim is married to Mary? Perhaps Mary is a second wife and Joseph's mother had died.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Washingborough, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

Elizabeth Flear Head Widow Female 67 1784 Baker Darlton, Nottinghamshire, England
Epharim Flear Son Married Male 29 1822 Blacksmith Washingborough, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Flear - Married Female 28 1823 - Saxilby, Lincolnshire, England
Betsey Flear Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Lincolnshire, England
Joseph Flear Son - Male 1 1850 - Washingborough, Lincolnshire, England
Joseph Betnay Relative Unmarried Male 22 1829 Ser Saxilby, Lincolnshire, England

He was baptised by Ephraim and Mary not Sarah as above.

Maryb.

I have the marriage cert for Joseph when he marries Sarah Read says his father is Epharim Flear a blacksmith

Washingborough Bapt

Joseph Flear 9/9/1849 s/o Ephriam & Sarah
Joseph Flear 17/1/1850 s/o Wilson & Caroline

What confused me was a tree on here and Ancestry that had Joseph Flear married to Sarah Read with a father called Wilson Flear

Was thinking I had the wrong family but going by that marriage cert not so sure

First name(s) Willson
Last name Flear
Sex Male
Age Of Full Age
Birth year -
Residence St Martin's
Marriage year 1838
Marriage date 17 May 1838
Marriage place Lincoln St Martin
Church St Martin
Spouse's first name(s) Caroline
Spouse's last name Green
Spouse's age Of Full Age
Spouse's residence St Martin's
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Flear
Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's father's last name Green
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Ephraim Flear born 1822 married Mary Betney 20/9/1843 in lincoln had Joseph 1849 they also had Benjamin 1854 Walsingham Norfolk
Arthur William 1857 Walsongham.

Ephraim was the son of William 1782 and Elizabeth nee Wilson.
Ephraim had a brother Wilson Flear.


Maryb.

Births of Joseph and William showing mmn Green?


FLEAR, JOSEPH GREEN Order
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in LINCOLN Volume 14 Page 513 Order

FLEAR, WILLIAM ALLISON GREEN Order
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in LINCOLN Volume 14 Page 491 Order

Thanks for your help Shirley
Christine

Maria Read was born Maria Brradley d/o William
she married William Read
then Benjamin Wadham in 1884

thats where Wadham comes from

Washingborough bapt

Joseph Flear bt 9th Sept 1849 s/o Epheriam and Sarah blacksmith
Joseph Flear bt 17th Jan 1850 s/o Wilson and Caroline labourer

1891 census


Name: Sarah Wadham
[Sarah Read]
Gender: Female
Age: 12
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1879
Father: Benjamin Wadham
Mother: Maria Wadham
Birth Place: Somersby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: St Peter at Gowts
Residence Place: Lincoln, St Peter at Gowts, Lincolnshire, England
Sub registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, Institution or Vessel: 12a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2591
Folio: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Wadham 44
Maria Wadham 41
Joseph Wadham 5
Benjamin Wadham 4
William H Wadham 2
Elizabeth Wadham 3/12
Sarah Wadham 12
Benjamin J Crosby 43

She was actually the daughter of his wife and took the name of wadham


Marriages Sep 1884
READ Maria Grantham 7a 703
Wadham Benjamin Grantham 7a 703

So the Sarah read marriage is correct although she was brought up in the Wadham family

I have a marriage cert for Joseph Flear widower 47y a dairy man s/o Epheriam Flear blacksmith to Sarah Read 19y spinster d/o William Read
27th May 1897 Wesleyam Chapel Lincoln

Yes I have the cert born Lincoln mmn Wadham

They have a Benjamin wadham with them on the 1911 census

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Name: Doris Lucy Flear
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Lincoln, England
Civil Parish: Lincoln
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County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Stanley Place Chelmsford St
Occupation: School
Registration district: Lincoln
Registration District Number: 418
Sub-registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 19731
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Flear 61
Sarah Flear 32
Doris Lucy Flear 7
Benjamine Flear 63
Elsie Mansell 1


It's actually Benjamin wadham on the actual census form

Will do an amendment

Says married 13 years one child and ties with the one to Sarah read
Agree on ancetsry has this

When Joseph Flear... was born in September 1849 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, his father, Wilson, was 33 and his mother, Caroline, was 32. He married Jane Barratt... and they had one daughter together. He then married Sarah Read... and they had one daughter together. He died in September 1927 at the age of 78, and was buried in Lincolnshire.

Name: Doris Lucy Flear
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 28 Sep 1903
Birth Place: St. Swithin, Lincoln, England
Baptism Date: 18 Oct 1903
Baptism Place: St. Swithin's Church, Lincoln, Lincoln, England
Father: Joseph Flear
Mother: Sarah Flear
FHL Film Number: 1542065


View England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Doris Lucy Flear
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Lincoln
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 490


Mmn was wadham

FLEAR, DORIS LUCY WADHAM
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in LINCOLN Volume 07A Page 490

Have you found Doris Lucy flear birth cert cos that will give mmn

When was she born?

Didn't know if to continue on this thread or start a new one, but this has a bit of info that may be useful

Joseph Flear born Washingborough Lincoln

My problem is there are two Joseph Flears one born 1849 the other 1850
The Joseph I want is the one who adopted Lucy Hannah Flear (as above) and father to Doris Lucy Flear

I have a marriage for Joseph 27/05/1897 Wesleyan Chapel Lincoln to Sarah Read father Ephriam a blacksmith which I thought was the my Joseph but now I have come across several trees on here and Ancestry they all have his father as Wilson Flear

So now I'm confused as I thought I was correct but all these tree can't be wrong ?

I hope all this makes sense as these Flears seem very complicated

Thank you Christine

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Lincoln
Church name Cemeter
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 24 Jan 1878
Person age 25
Burial person forename Hannah
Burial person surname FLEAR
Burial person abode Sheffield,Normanton St YKS


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place (Lincoln
Church name Cemeter
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 09 Mar 1878
Person age 3
Burial person forename Betsy Ann
Burial person surname FLEAR
Burial person abode Bethel Placde,St Mary le Wigford


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Lincoln
Church name Cemeter
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 26 Sep 1878
Person age 1
Burial person forename William Henry
Burial person surname FLEAR
Burial person abode Bethel Place,St Mary le Wigford


Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Grimsby
Church name St James
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 937
Baptism date 10 Jun 1877
Birth date 14 May 1877
Person forename William Henry
Person sex M
Person abode New Garden Street, Grimsby
Father forename William
Father surname FLEAR
Father occupation Clerk
Mother forename Hannah
Register note Ceremony by Robt Ainslie


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Lincoln
Church name Cemeter
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 21 Mar 1896
Person age 43
Burial person forename Jane
Burial person surname FLEAR
Burial person abode St Martin,High St


https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above link)

Chris :)

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gs&

(above link has Manchester)


http://www.lincolnshire-wolds.org/all-lincolnshire/1451.htm

Thankyou all for your help

Christine