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Ellen
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31 May 2017 10:22 |
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Yes Arthur is James Winterbotham's son & his 1 st Wife Jane Brewin.
I do have this information I posted the Marriage details today as I was looking for Clara's parents names & received the certificate today
I previously ( 3rd May) sort help the title was Clara Gretton born 1853 Leicestershire which I think is all on page 10 onwards with all of the help I received from all of you wonderful people
I wasn't sure if I attached the information received today to those pages or put a new message on here.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 May 2017 10:20 |
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you have aready asked about the family and been given loads of records
its best not start another thread as look ups are being duplicated
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1366086?page=3
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rootgatherer
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31 May 2017 10:18 |
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This is the parents of the Arthur with mmn Pacey and he did died.
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sneinton Road, Sneinton, Radford, Nottinghamshire, England
Theophilus Winterbotham Head - Male 39 1832 - Nottinghamshire, England
Mary A Winterbotham Wife - Female 37 1834 - Nottinghamshire, England
John T Winterbotham Son - Male 14 1857 - Nottinghamshire, England
William S Winterbotham Son - Male 13 1858 - Nottinghamshire, England
Fred Winterbotham Son - Male 11 1860 - Nottinghamshire, England
Harry Winterbotham Son - Male 6 1865 - Nottinghamshire, England
James H Winterbotham Son - Male 1 1870 - Nottinghamshire, England
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 May 2017 10:11 |
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:1891 census
Clara Winterbottom
[Helena R should read Clara E Winterbottom]
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Hathern, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Radford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:4 Shipstone Street
Occupation:grocer
Condition as to marriage:married
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Nottingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2689
Folio: 100
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Clara Winterbottom 38
Louis Winterbottom 16 occ dyers labourer -lace
George Winterbottom 13
Helena R Winterbottom 1
WINTERBOTHAM, CLARA EMMA SPYBY GRETTON Order
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 291
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rootgatherer
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31 May 2017 10:11 |
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I think that Arthur may have died?
Deaths Dec 1867 (>99%)
Winterbotham Arthur 0 Radford 7b 113
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 May 2017 10:02 |
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well the son Lewis isnt registered so wonder if that is the right Arthur
1881 census
Name: Clara Winterbotham
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: James Winterbotham
Gender: Female
Where born: Hathern, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Basford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 83 North Gate
Marital Status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Lace Mender Small Ware Seller
Registration district: Basford
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3330
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
James Winterbotham 39
Clara Winterbotham 28
Arthur Winterbotham 15
Lewis Winterbotham 6
George Winterbotham 3
Here is George
WINTERBOTHAM, GEORGE GRETTON Order
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 174
Think that tree on ancestry has just picked up the name an assumed its the right family
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KathleenBell
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31 May 2017 10:01 |
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This is the only baptism I can see for a Clara Gretton born Hathern (but a bit later than you give):-
First name(s) Clara Lovett
Last name Gretton
Birth year 1855
Baptism year 1855
Baptism date 18 Mar 1855
Baptism place Hathern
Denomination Anglican
County Leicestershire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Maria
Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Archive reference DE731/3
Page 187
Record set Leicestershire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
Kath. x
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Gee
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31 May 2017 09:41 |
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I don't know how accurate the tree is that I took this info from is? But it states that this is the son of Clara. So she may have been married previously although not stated on her marriage to James?
WINTERBOTHAM, ARTHUR Mother Maiden Name:PACEY
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in RADFORD Volume 07B Page 192
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Arthur' birth does seem to fit with this census info
1881 Census
Arthur Winterbotham
Age:15
Estimated birth year:abt 1866
Relationship to Head:Son
Father:James Winterbotham
Mother:Clara Winterbotham
Where born:Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish:Basford
County/Island:Nottinghamshire
Street address:83 North Gate
Occupation:Hose Maker Apprentice
Registration district:Basford
ED, institution, or vessel:10
Piece:3330
Folio:8
Page Number:10
James Winterbotham 39
Clara Winterbotham 28
Arthur Winterbotham 15
Lewis Winterbotham 6
George Winterbotham 3
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Ellen
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31 May 2017 08:58 |
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I have today received the Marriage Certificate for Clara Gretton to James Winterbotham.
16th January 1870 he is a Widower aged 26 years she is a 21 year old Spinster (Born 1849? I have her born 1852 at Hathern Leics )
Witness's Frederick Lowe & Agnes Howes
It is such a disappointment after waiting 22 days for it to arrive as it does not have a fathers name for Clara Gretton, it has James's father as John Winterbotham Cabinet maker.
Ellen
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