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can anyone help me find any information on the above man he died in the trenches in France in ww1. think he was born in 1888. no information about him after that
he was married to Marie Valentine Ravel

Thank you it i s hard to find information from France
Elizabeth

He does not appear to be in anyone's tree on here - was Marie also born in France as cannot see her either?

He is in at least one tree on Ancestry - Mary/Marie died in Michigan?

There is this tree at Ancestry which has some information but not a lot

Louis Clavel (Louis Clavel was born in 1888 in France to Hippolyte Clavel)
Birth: 1888 - France
Death: 22 Aug, 1914 - France
Spouse: Mary Valentine Augustine Ravel Brissaud
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His son Paul Louis was born on 26 July 1914 in Lyon, Rhône, France

Death of Mother

His mother Mary Valentine Augustine passed away on 18 May 1967 in Michigan, USA, at the age of 86

His Death

Paul Louis (Clavel) Brissaud died on 17 September 2004 in Michigan, USA, when he was 90 years old.
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From Ancestry

Paul Louis Brissaud [Paul Clavel]

Birth Date:26 Jul 1914

Birth Place:France

Age at event:27

Court District:Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa

Date of Action:1 Dec 1941

Paul Louis Paul Brissaud Clavel
Illinois, Northern District Naturalization Index
Name Paul Louis Paul Brissaud Clavel
Event Type Naturalization
Event Place Chicago, Illinois
Event Date 1941
Birth Year 1914
Birthplace France
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Paul Louis Paul Brissaud Clavel
Illinois, Northern District Naturalization Index
Name Paul Louis Paul Brissaud Clavel
Event Type Naturalization
Event Place Chicago, Illinois
Event Date 1941
Birth Year 1914
Birthplace France
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wife - elsie, married 12/05/1934 at wheaton Illinois, child marion born 22/08/1935
arrived in usa 13/08/1934

Paul Louis Brissaud

in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
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Name: Paul Louis Brissaud
[Paul L Brissaud]
SSN: 324014230
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1914
Birth Place: Lyons, France
Death Date: 17 Sep 2004
Father: John Brissaud
Mother: Mary Ravel
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Dec 1936: Name listed as PAUL LOUIS BRISSAUD; 25 Sep 2004: Name listed as PAUL L BRISSAUD

Paul Louis Brissaud

in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
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Name: Paul Louis Brissaud
[Paul L Brissaud]
SSN: 324014230
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1914
Birth Place: Lyons, France
Death Date: 17 Sep 2004
Father: John Brissaud
Mother: Mary Ravel
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Dec 1936: Name listed as PAUL LOUIS BRISSAUD; 25 Sep 2004: Name listed as PAUL L BRISSAUD

in the U.S., Obituary Collection, 1930-2017
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Name: Paul C Brissaud
Gender: Male
Death Age: 90
Birth Date: 1914
Death Date: 17 Sep 2004
Obituary Date: 21 Sep 2004
Newspaper Title: Niles Daily Star
Newspaper Place: Niles, Michigan, USA

in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name: Mary Brissaud
Birth Date: 1888
Death Date: 22 May 1967
Burial or Cremation Place: Lawrence, Van Buren County, Michigan, USA
Spouse: John Brissaud
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Mary Valentine Clavel
Arrival Date: 13 Aug 1924
Birth Date: abt 1889
Birth Location: France
Birth Location Other: lamastre
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: French
Port of Departure: Le Havre
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Lafayette
Search Ship Database: Search for the Lafayette in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

On Mary Valentine's immigration to USA she's with son Paul, 9. She's going to join fiance Mr. Jean Brissand, 53 W. 8th. St., New York City.

Mary Clavel
in the New York City, Marriage Indexes, 1907-1995
Name:
Mary Clavel
Gender:
Female
Record Type:
Marriage
Marriage Date:
14 Aug 1924
Marriage Place:
Manhattan, New York City, New York, USA
Spouse:
John Brissand
Certificate Number:
22833
Volume Number:10

John Brissand
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Birth Year:
abt 1888
Gender:
Male
Race:
White
Birthplace:
France
Marital Status:
Married
Relation to Head of House:
Head
Home in 1930:
Proviso, Cook, Illinois
Street address:
Circle Ave
Ward of City:
Precinct 36
Block:
11
House Number in Cities or Towns:
1104
Dwelling Number:
300
Family Number:
352
Home Owned or Rented:
Owned
Home Value:
6, 000
Radio Set:
Yes
Lives on Farm:
No
Age at First Marriage:
37
Attended School:
No
Able to Read and Write:
Yes
Father's Birthplace:
France
Mother's Birthplace:
France
Language Spoken:
French
Immigration Year:1912
Naturalization:
Naturalized
Able to Speak English:
Yes
Occupation:
Cook
Industry:
Domenlty
Class of Worker:
Wage or salary worker
Employment:
Yes
Household Members:
John Brissand 42
Marie Brissand 41
Paul Brissand 15
Johnie Brissand 1

Elizabeth asked for information about Louis Clavel, surely?

Elizabeth,
If he lived, married and died in France, have you looked to see if there are any French based genealogical sites that could help you?

Have you looked on IGI for information about him?


http://www.rootschat.com/links/01k72/

A tree on Ancestry says that he was the son of Hippolyte Clavel & Adel?

Is this his death?

NAME RANK DATE OF BIRTH DATE OF DEATH CEMETERY NAME
Clavel, Louis Soldat 1888-11-15 1914-8-22 Carré Militaire 'Bourgoin-Jallieu'

from 'http://www.theworldremembers.org/search-the-names'

There is this Hippolyte from IGI, but a different birth date to that in the Ancestry tree (which is unsourced)

Hippolyte Clavel France, Hérault, Census, 1891
Name Hippolyte Clavel Event Type Census
Event Date 1891 Event Place Saint-Bauzille-de-la-Sylve, Hérault, Languedoc-Roussillon, France
Event Place (Original) Saint-Bauzille-de-la-Sylve
Age 43 Birth Date 1848
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Hippolyte Clavel Head U 43
Emile Clavel Other U 17
Citing this Record
"France, Hérault, Recensement, 1891," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL9C-G5B9 : 24 March 2017), Hippolyte Clavel, Saint-Bauzille-de-la-Sylve, Hérault, Languedoc-Roussillon, France; from "Recensements de l’Hérault," database, Filae (https://www.filae.com : 2017); citing Archives départementales de l’Hérault, Montpellier.

Guide to French research:
https://www.thoughtco.com/how-to-research-french-ancestry-1421947

Have you any idea which part of France Louis was from - the tree claims Hippolyte was born in La Grivellière, Drôme, Rhône-Alpes in 1868.

First I want to thank you all so much for all this information I am extremely
grateful

to answer questions I will go through all this and come back with that

i cannot thank you enough

hello everyone

patchem where can I find the IGI index also I believe he was the son of Hippolyte clavel and adel

I would love to find out more about them if possible also French based genealogical
sites would probably be in French and I cannot read that.
Thank you all so much for your help

Elizabeth

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