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I have Robert Riches 1803 & Sarah Curl 1803. both Norwich.
married St. Stephens, Norwich 1833. Looking for death of both Please.

A tree on ancestry gives this for him:-

Birth: Oct 1803 - Norfolk
Marriage: 06 Feb 1821 (6 Feb 1821) - Fincham, Norfolk
Death: Jan 1845 - Norwich, Norfolk, England
Parents: Henry Riches, Ann Smith Riches
Spouse: Sarah Riches

children:-

Edward Riches 1821–
Isaac Riches 1828–1907
Sarah Riches 1832–
Robert Riches 1836–
William Riches 1838–
Robert Riches 1839–
Edwin Riches 1840–
James Riches 1846–

Sarah Riches
1808–1885

BIRTH ABT 1808 • Hingham, Norfolk, England
DEATH MAR 1885 • Guiltcross, Norfolk, England

" IF " this is correct then this looks to be the family in 1841

Name: Robt Riches
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Heigham
Hundred: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: Black Horse Inn

Occupation: Cabinet Maker

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: West Wymer
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 787
Book: 7
Folio: 25
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Riches 40
Sarah Riches 33
Alfred Riches 14
Sarah Riches 11
Robt Riches 5
William Riches 3
Edwin Riches 1 6 Mo

But then Robert can't have died in 1846 as this is the same family in 1851

Name: Robert Riches
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Riches
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Norwich Lakenham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Cabinet Maker

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Mancroft
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Piece: 1815
Folio: 87
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Riches 48
Sarah Riches 43
Sarah Riches 19
Robert Riches 15
William Riches 13
Edwin Riches 11

Can you confirm, or not, if this is your family please?

..........and here again in1861

Name: Robert Riches
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Riches
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich
Civil Parish: Norwich Lakenham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Cabinet Maker

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Mancroft
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Piece: 1216
Folio: 77
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Riches 60
Sarah Riches 53
William Riches 23
Edwin Riches 21

.....................................

and still around in 1871

Name: Robert Riches
Age: 70
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Riches
Gender: Male
Where born: Lakenham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Lakenham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Mancroft
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 134
Piece: 1815
Folio: 82
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Riches 70 - Cabinet Maker
Sarah Riches 63

Sarah on her own in 1881

Name: Sarah Riches
Age: 73
Estimated birth year: abt 1808
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Yaxham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Wymondham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: Mill Lane

Marital Status: Widow

Occupation: Housekeeper
Registration district: Forehoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1956
Folio: 34
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Riches 73
Aaron Riches 52 - Son (Farm Labourer)

Possible death for Robert

Deaths Sep 1875 (>99%)
RICHES Robert 75 Norwich 4b 102

The only death for a Sarah Riches between 1881 and 1891 is this one:-

Deaths Sep 1886 (>99%)
Riches Sarah 71 Norwich 4b 92

.........although it would give date of birth as 1815 ????

From 1881 census this looks to be the Aaron Riches:-

Name: Aaron Riches
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 Sep 1820
Baptism Place: Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Father: James Riches
Mother: Sarah Ferrers
FHL Film Number: 1471055

so 1881 looks to be another Sarah Riches, so that death is probably not correct either.

In which case, this death would probably be more appropriate:-

Deaths Sep 1873 (>99%)
Riches Sarah 66 Norwich 4b 107

............makes date of birth 1807/08

in which case, the dates of death on the tree on ancestry may not be correct.

Hi Catherine,
Yes, Robert Riches Cabinet maker, Lakenham is the one.
The Ancestry tree is wrong.

In that case I would think that the death in 1875 for Robert and the 1873 for Sarah are the best options but you may need to buy the certificates to be 100% sure.

Does below fit anywhere?...(no time to stay this morning, apologies!)

Chris :)

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Norwich
Church name St Benedict
Register type Transcript
Register entry number 515
Baptism date 05 Jul 1826
Person forename Alfred William
Father forename Robert
Father surname RICHES
Father occupation Cabinet Maker
Mother forename Sarah


Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Heigham
Church name St Bartholomew
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Baptism date 27 Nov 1831
Birth date 5 Nov 1831
Person forename Sarah Ann
Person sex F
Father forename Robert
Father surname RICHES
Father occupation Cabinetmaker
Mother forename Sarah


County Norfolk
Place Norwich
Church name St Stephen
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 99
Marriage date 2 Sep 1833
Groom forename Robert
Groom surname RICHES
Groom condition Widower
Groom parish St Stephen
Bride forename Sarah
Bride surname CURL
Bride condition spinster
Bride parish St Stephen
Witness C RICHES
Witness A DRAKE
Register note Also Witness J Buttifant. Banns

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


RICHES, EDWIN THOMAS (CURL)
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in NORWICH Volume 13 Page 268

Yes,
Many Thanks Chris Ho.