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JoonieCloonie
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21 May 2017 20:36 |
I didn't see a Horn marriage posted by malyon, malyon did you post one?
But malyon, two people born in Cambridgeshire would have met/married in Kent? and had their first child in Cambridgeshire? In any case, from the baptisms Sylvia posted, one of the children was baptised in 1827 in Cambridgeshire the year before the 1828 marriage.
So the idea may not have been completely off the wall to start with, but I think that baptism in 1827 followed closely by the other baptisms rules out the 1828 Kent marriage to Avis.
Norfolkboy maybe you had seen these at famlysearch
John Kirby marriage: 1805 Wrawby, Lincoln, England spouse: Mary Horn John Kirby marriage: 18 November 1799 Shrivenham, Berkshire, England spouse: Elizabeth Horn
but they are both way too early and nowhere near where you should be looking.
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malyon
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21 May 2017 18:03 |
I did post a marriage to mary avis
I those days people went all over the place to find work some times leaving the youngest children at home
could he have been married twice
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Norfolkboy
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21 May 2017 17:52 |
malyon posted it, then i think, deleted it ?
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JoonieCloonie
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21 May 2017 03:11 |
because the 1841 cut&paste is completely incomprehensible, I'm redoing it in legible format and omitting useless info, for my info and for anyone else who might want to be able to grasp the info
Name John Kirby Event Type Census Event Date 1841 Event Place St Mary Wisbeck, Cambridgeshire, England Residence Note Wisbech St Mary Gender Male Age 50-54 Age (Original) 50 Birth Year (Estimated) 1787-1791 Birthplace Cambridgeshire Registration District Wisbeck Parish St Mary Wisbeck County Cambridgeshire
John Kirby M 50-54 Cambridgeshire Mary Ann Kirby F 48-52 Cambridgeshire Elizebeth Kirby F 12 Cambridgeshire Robert Kirby M 10 Cambridgeshire Mary Ann Kirby F 8 Cambridgeshire John Kirby M 4 Cambridgeshire
I can't imagine a reason why two people who were born, lived, and had their children in Cambridgeshire would have married in Kent.
So Mary Ann Avis? Not very likely.
'So is it Horn or Avis ??'
Where is 'Horn' coming from?
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SylviaInCanada
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21 May 2017 00:28 |
I certainly have not found any evidence to conclusively say what Mary Ann's surname was :-(
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Norfolkboy
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21 May 2017 00:04 |
Many Thanks All, it's The marriage & Mary Ann's maiden name i need. So is it Horn or Avis ??
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SylviaInCanada
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20 May 2017 23:40 |
For what it is worth ............
The John Kirby / Mary Ann Avis marriage that malyon posted .........
West Wickham is in Kent, on the outskirts of London
The only Mary Ann Avis that I can find was baptised in Norfolk ...................
County Norfolk Place (link for place information) Thompson Church name St Martin Register type Archdeacon's Transcripts Baptism date 31 May 1795 Person forename Mary Ann Person sex F Father forename Michael Father surname AVIS Mother forename Jane Mother surname HARDY Witness Witness Register note Jane Hardy Spinster At Marriage. Transcriber notes
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SylviaInCanada
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20 May 2017 23:18 |
have you got all the children???
from freereg
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 1185 Baptism date 25 Jan 1835 Person forename Alice Person sex F Person abode Wisbeach St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary Ann Witness Witness Register note Transcriber notes
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 1118 Baptism date 16 Jun 1833 Person forename Mary Ann Person sex F Person abode Wisbeach St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary Ann Witness Witness Register note Transcriber notes
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 967 Baptism date 25 Jul 1830 Person forename Robert Person sex M Person abode Wisbech St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary Witness Witness Register note Transcriber notes
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 875 Baptism date 17 Apr 1829 Person forename Elizabeth Person sex F Person abode Wisbech St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary Witness Witness Register note Transcriber notes
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 809 Baptism date 19 Aug 1827 Person forename Mary Ann Person sex F Person abode Wisbech St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary Ann Witness Witness Register note Transcriber notes
?? I think this one Mary Ann must have died ....
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 809 Baptism date 19 Aug 1827 Person forename Mary Ann Person sex F Person abode Wisbech St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary Ann Witness Witness Register note Transcriber notes
Here's her burial ..........
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 493 Burial date 18 Apr 1828 Person age 8m Burial person forename Mary Ann Burial person surname KIRBY Burial person abode Wisbech St Marys Witness Witness Register note Performed by Robt. KING, Curate
It's hard to know if these children are from "your" family or not!!. Certainly the births fall within the correct age range for John and Mary Ann, although only the name Mary is used.
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 712 Baptism date 11 Dec 1825 Person forename Mary Ann Person sex F Person abode Wisbech St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mark
Mary Ann died ...........
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 416 Burial date 08 Nov 1826 Person age 11m Burial person forename Mary Ann Burial person surname KIRBY Burial person abode Wisbech St Marys Witness Witness Register note Performed by Robt. KING, Curate
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 599 Baptism date 11 May 1823 Person forename Zachariah Person sex M Person abode Wisbech St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 518 Baptism date 17 Feb 1822 Person forename Robert Person sex M Person abode Wisbech St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary
Died ...........
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 299 Burial date 10 Jan 1824 Person age 2 Burial person forename Robert Burial person surname KIRBY Burial person abode Wisbech St Marys Witness Witness Register note Performed by Robt. KING, Curate
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 432 Baptism date 26 Nov 1820 Person forename James Person sex M Person abode Wisbech St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary
Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 340 Baptism date 04 Apr 1819 Person forename Samuel Person sex M Person abode St Marys Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary
Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 213 Baptism date 25 Dec 1816 Person forename Sarah Person sex F Person abode Wisbech St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary
County Cambridgeshire Place (link for place information) Wisbech Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Register entry number 131 Baptism date 21 May 1815 Person forename Frances Person sex F Person abode Wisbech St Mary Father forename John Father surname KIRBY Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Mary
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malyon
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20 May 2017 22:46 |
John Kirby England Marriages, 1538–1973 marriage: 1828 West Wickham, England spouse: Mary Ann Avis
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malyon
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20 May 2017 22:42 |
John Kirby England and Wales Census, 1841 Name John Kirby Event Type Census Event Date 1841 Event Place St Mary Wisbeck, Cambridgeshire, England Residence Note Wisbech St Mary Gender Male Age 50-54 Age (Original) 50 Birth Year (Estimated) 1787-1791 Birthplace Cambridgeshire Registration District Wisbeck Parish St Mary Wisbeck County Cambridgeshire Page Number 11 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 78/8 Affiliate Record Type Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace John Kirby
M 50-54 Cambridgeshire Mary Ann Kirby
F 48-52 Cambridgeshire Elizebeth Kirby
F 12 Cambridgeshire Robert Kirby
M 10 Cambridgeshire Mary Ann Kirby
F 8 Cambridgeshire John Kirby
M 4 Cambridgeshire
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malyon
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20 May 2017 22:36 |
Elisabeth Kirby England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 17 April 1829 WISBECH-ST MARY, CAMBRIDGE, ENGLAND father: John Kirby mother: Mary
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malyon
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20 May 2017 22:34 |
Robert Kirby England and Wales Census, 1841 birth: 1831 Cambridgeshire residence: 1841 St Mary Wisbeck, Cambridgeshire, England other: John Kirby, Mary Ann Kirby, Elizebeth Kirby
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Norfolkboy
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20 May 2017 21:06 |
Looking for Marriage of John & Mary, also her maiden name if possible 1851 Census John Kirby Head M 63 Leverington, Cambridgeshire Mary Ann Kirby Wife F 56 Gosberton, Lincolnshire Elizabeth Kirby Daughter F 21 Wisbech St Mary,Cambridgeshire Robert Kirby Son M 20 Wisbech St Mary, Cambridgeshire Harriett Kirby Grand Daughter F 3 Wisbech St Mary, Cambridgeshire
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