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Member Since: January 2008 Posts: 748 Send Message	Nicola'S	Report	20 May 2017 21:27
Member Since: January 2008 Posts: 748 Send Message	Alviegal, this is BRILLIANT! It's such a difficult name and seems to have been misheard/mistranscribed etc over the years. The 1851 is fantastic to see. Where, on where, are they in 1861?? Thank you so much - you always come to my rescue. :-D :-D
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	20 May 2017 20:47
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	???? Does read William born in Clerkenwell. 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Drury Lane, St Martin in the Fields, Strand, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Winterhalder Head Married Male 69 1822 Clock Maker London, Middlesex, England Transcription Fanny Winterhalder Wife Married Female 64 1827 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription Charles Winterhalder Grandson - Male 7 1884 Scholar London, Middlesex, England EDIT No this is a different man. With his father, Augustin and brothers in 1851. They are all clockmakers born in Germany?
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	20 May 2017 20:33
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Charles' baptism. His father was a clock cleaner of 26 Queen St. Westminster Baptisms Transcription Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) Charles Edward Last name Winterhalden Birth year 1861 Birth date 20 May 1861 Baptism year 1881 Baptism date 01 Feb 1881 Father's first name(s) Zecharia Mother's first name(s) Frances Parish St Clement Danes County Middlesex Country England Page 614 His birth details. England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) CHARLES EDWARD Last name WINTERHALDER Birth year 1861 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District Marylebone County London Country England Volume 1A Page 431 and his death. First name(s) CHARLES E Last name WINTERHALDER Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1861 Age 70 Death quarter 2 Death year 1931 District Tavistock County Devon Volume 5B Page 422
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Charles in 1891? says he was born in Paddington. 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Katharine Buildings, Cartwright Street, St Botolph Without Aldgate or East Smithfield, Whitechapel, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Winterhalder Head Married Male 29 1862 Railway Porter London, Middlesex, England Transcription Frances Winterhalder Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Devon, England Transcription Ellen Winterhalder Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Devon, England Transcription Alice Winterhalder Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Plymouth, Devon, England
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Shouldham Street, Saint Marylebone, Marylebone, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Fletcher Head Married Male 50 1801 Gas Fitter Middlesex, England Transcription Ann Fletcher Wife Married Female 40 1811 - Buckinghamshire, England Transcription James W Fletcher Son - Male 0 1851 - Middlesex, England Transcription Amelia Fletcher Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 Scholar Middlesex, England Transcription Elizabeth Fletcher Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Middlesex, England Transcription Susannah Fletcher Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Middlesex, England Transcription Henry Wilson Visitor - Male 1 1850 - Middlesex, England Transcription William Sale Head Married Male 62 1789 Harness Maker Buckinghamshire, England Transcription Mary Sale Wife Married Female 52 1799 Launderss Worcester, Worcestershire, England Transcription Elizabeth Sale Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1829 Upholdsterer Middlesex, England Transcription Ellen Skinner Visitor - Female 12 1839 Scholar Middlesex, England Transcription >>Zacharias Winterholder Head Married Male 23 1828 Clock Maker Germany Transcription Frances Winterholder Wife Married Female 23 1828 - Kent, England Transcription Emily T Winterholder Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Middlesex, England Transcription Madam Shewn - Widow Female 47 1804 Servant Ladys Maid -
Member Since: January 2008 Posts: 748 Send Message	Nicola'S	Report	20 May 2017 19:54
Member Since: January 2008 Posts: 748 Send Message	SAFC, you are very clever. It certainly looks like him in 1881; everything 'matches'. Wonder why he's not with his wife and family?? The possible death in 1895 is very interesting and highly possible. We will send for the Death Certificate. But where is he in1891?? And also 1861?? And can you find the son Charles' birth details, please? I can't. Standing by, and thank you. :-) :-)
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	20 May 2017 18:52
	Deaths Jun 1895 (>99%) Winterhalter Zachariah 73 Pancras 1b 16
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Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	20 May 2017 18:47
	Marriages Dec 1849 Southgate Frances Marylebone 1 212 Winterhalder Zachaus Marylebone 1 212
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	???? 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 26, Queen Street, St Giles in the Fields and St George Bloomsbury, St Giles, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Zachariah Wintertsall ? Head Married Male 58 1823 Clock Maker Germany Transcription Charles E Wintertsall ? Son Single Male 24 1857 Plumber Marylebone, Middlesex, England
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Member Since: January 2008 Posts: 748 Send Message	Nicola'S	Report	20 May 2017 18:33
Member Since: January 2008 Posts: 748 Send Message	Even with this name, the transcriber has suggested "LACCHENS" in the below census in 1871 [I have corrected it]: Name: Lacchens Winterhalder [Zaccheus Winterhalder] Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Frances Winterhalder Gender: Male Where born: Duchy of Baden [Urach, Amt Neustadt, Duchy of Baden] Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Household schedule number: 622 Piece: 208 Folio: 77 Page Number: 87 Household Members: Name Age Lacchens Winterhalder 48 Frances Winterhalder 43 Emily Winterhalder 20 Fanny Winterhalder 15 Charles Winterhalder 10 Matilda Winterhalder 6 Walter Winterhalder 3 We have the marriage of Zaccheus to Frances Southgate and subsequent census entries for Frances on her own. But we cannot find Zaccheus again. Odd that Frances says that she is married, i.e., not a widow, in1881, but Zaccheus is not there. Nor can we find his death anywhere. PLEASE can you find this elusive German clockmaker for us? Thank you and standing by.

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