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Matilda Messenger

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laurie

laurie Report 12 May 2017 18:37

I am looking for relatives of Matilda Messenger born about 1917 lived in Leatherhead and Ashtead

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 May 2017 18:41

Have you looked for any marriage and children born

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 May 2017 18:45

This one ????

MATILDA A
Last name MESSENGER
Birth year 1917
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name Freeman
District Epsom
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 60


You would need the birth cert for her parents names as there's more than one possibility

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 May 2017 18:46


First name(s) MATILDA A
Last name MESSENGER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1937
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ MATILDA A MESSENGER married
Eric C Street
Spouse's last name Street
District Surrey Mid Eastern
District number -
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 463

malyon

malyon Report 12 May 2017 18:47

Births Jun 1915   (>99%)

Messenger
 George J
 Freeman
 Epsom
 2a
66

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 May 2017 18:48

Did she remarry


First name(s) MATILDA A
Last name STREET
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1944
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ MATILDA A STREET married
Walter F Trott
Spouse's last name Trott
District Surrey Mid Eastern
District number -
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 750
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005




First name(s) MATILDA ANNIE
Last name TROTT
Gender Female
Birth day 13
Birth month 6
Birth year 1917
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 2003
District West Surrey
District number 7611A
Register number A14B
Entry number 291
Date of registration mm/yy 0403
County Surrey
Country England

malyon

malyon Report 12 May 2017 18:51

2 girls born to street and mother messenger 1938 and 1940

malyon

malyon Report 12 May 2017 18:53

2 boys born to trot mother messenger 1945 and 1947

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 May 2017 18:54

Wrong transcription the date of birth and occ is actually her husband Eric C Street


Trott (Street) Household (1 Person)
35 Church Road , Leatherhead U.D., Surrey, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Matilda A Trott (Street) 12 May 1915 Grocery & Provisions Duties
Ref: RG101/1910E/017/16 Letter Code: DMRB
© Findmypast Ltd

Her record is closed and there's one other closed too that must be a daughter born 1938

malyon

malyon Report 12 May 2017 19:01

looks like eric was killed in war
STREET, ERIC CHARLES JAMES
Rank:
Corporal
Service No:
6095704
Date of Death:
25/10/1942
Age:
27
Regiment/Service:
The Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey)
 
1/5th Bn.
Grave Reference:
XXV. E. 11.
Cemetery:
EL ALAMEIN WAR CEMETERY

Additional Information:
Son of Charles Harvey Street and Susan Charlott Street; husband of Matilda Annie Street, of Leatherhead, Surrey.

patchem

patchem Report 12 May 2017 22:40

Order the will (of 2003) for further information?

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 May 2017 05:45

This looks like the brother mistranscribed

Missinger Household (2 People)
22 Gravel Hill , Leatherhead U.D., Surrey, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
George J Missinger 12 Mar 1915 Electricity Maintenance Labourer
Annie ? Missinger 09 Apr 1889 Paid Domestic Duties
Ref: RG101/1910F/023/32 Letter Code: DMRC
© Findmypast Ltd
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No closed records

So
Marriages Dec 1911
Freeman Annie Southwark 1d 231
Messenger George Southwark 1d. 231

And a possible sister
Births Dec 1912
Messenger Lily Freeman St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 758


And death of the hubby

Deaths Dec 1919
Messenger George 39 Epsom 2a. 68

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 May 2017 06:02

A tree on Ancestry has this

Annie Freeman

Birth: 1889 - Surrey, England
Death: 12 Apr 1942 - Leatherhead, Surrey, England
Marriage: 1911 - Walworth
Spouse: George James Messenger


Annie Messenger
Birth Date: abt 1889
Date of Registration: Jun 1942
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Surrey Mid eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 398

Annie Messenger
Birth Year: 1889
Burial Year: 1942
Burial Place: Leatherhead, Surrey, England
Death Age: 53
Cemetery: St Mary and St Nicholas
Relationship: wife of George Messenger
Original URL: http://www.gravestonephotos.co...

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 May 2017 06:11

Will
VIEW England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Add Alternative Information
Report issue
Name: Annie Messenger
Death Date: 12 Apr 1942
Death Place: Surrey, England
Probate Date: 5 May 1942
Registry: Llandudno

Messenger Annie of 35 Church Row Leatherhead widow who died 12 April 1942 at Leatherhead Emergency Hospital Leatherhead Surrey. Administration Llandudno 5May to Matilda Annie Street (wife of Eric Strret) effects £161.14.8d

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2017 09:09

As you already seem to have all the above information attached to your tree on Ancestry, exactly which relatives are you searching for?


George Messenger in the UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
Name: George Messenger
Given Initials: G J
Rank: Lance Corporal
Death Date: 3 Jun 1941
Number: 2662241
Birth Place: Surrey
Residence: Surrey
Branch at Enlistment: Foot Guards
Theatre of War: United Kingdom
Regiment at Death: Coldstream Guards
Branch at Death: Foot Guards

Deaths Sep 1941 (>99%)
Messenger George J 26 Barnet 3a 1112

I see that George James Messenger seems to have aquired the name Peter.

This might be of interest to you.......

Peter George Messenger in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: Peter George Messenger
Birth Date: 1915
Death Date: 3rd June 1941
Cemetery: St Mary and St Nicholas Churchyard
Burial or Cremation Place: Leatherhead, Mole Valley District, Surrey, England
Has Bio?: N
Father: George Messenger: Died November 17th, 1919 aged 39
Mother: Annie Messenger: Died April 12th 1942 aged 53
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

Click on the URL........then click on the photo.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 May 2017 10:45

Looks like the 1940 Street / Messenger daughter died in infancy, also in 1940.

I won't post it in case, by some strange chance, this is a different child, and the correct daughter's still living. But I'm pretty certain it's the right child.

There are possible marriages and deaths of the other daughter and the two sons, but there are too many people with those names to be certain.
Neither do they stand out for sure on ERs.