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William Howarth married Ann Stott at St Chad, Rochdale in 1840. They had it would appear 2 children some years after they married, Alice Ann in 1850 and William James in 1857. I am seeking additional information about the children which I have been unable to find. Thanks

Edit - I am related to the father - William Howarth.

Is this Ann with children in 1891?


Ann Howarth
in the 1891 England Census
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1891 England Census
Name:
Ann Howarth
Age:
75
Estimated birth year:
abt 1816
Relation:
Head
Gender:
Female
Where born:
Bacup, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:
Wardleworth
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Mary
Town:
Rochdale
County/Island:
Lancashire
Country:
England
Registration district:
Rochdale
ED, institution, or vessel:
Piece:
3337
Folio:
30
Page Number:
3
Ann Howarth 75
Alice Ann Howarth 37
William James Howarth 30

Several Howarth/Stott marriages in Rochdale 1830's to 1850's so difficult to say which of the births on the GRO index are William and Ann's children (just in case there are more than you think you've found).

Not seeing a William James with mmn Stott

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HOWARTH, ALICE ANN STOTT Order
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 21 Page 795

Thank you :-D

Lancashire BMD gives sub reg districts - this is the index for Alice Ann:


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1851

HOWARTH Alice Ann STOTT Spotland Further Rochdale SF/6/309

So assuming other children were reg in the same sub district, there is John in 1847 & James in 1843 could be others in surrounding districts though.

From Lancs OPC

Baptism: 27 Nov 1850 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Alice Ann Howarth - [Child] of William Howarth & Ann
Abode: Henry St.
Occupation: Moulder
Baptised by: W. J. Harrington, Offg. Minister
Register: Baptisms 1846 - 1851, Page 106, Entry 842
Source: LDS Film 2356445

Different address, but same occupation:

Baptism: 30 Nov 1859 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
William James Howarth - [Child] of William Howarth & Ann
Born: 6 Jul 1857
Abode: Whitworth Road
Occupation: Moulder
Baptised by: Henry E. Garnet
Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1865, Page 77, Entry 613
Source: LDS Family Search

But these are the only 2 baptisms I can see.

Added, strange, but William James is showing mmn of Brierley according to the GRO index and Lancs BMD - also the sub district of registration is Wardleworth.

Thank you

FreBMD has William Haworth and Ann Brierley on same page of marriages March quarter 1846.

Marriage: 1 Jan 1846 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
William Howarth - (X), Full, Moulder, Bachelor, George Street
Ann Brierley - (X), Full, Spinster, Packer Street
Groom's Father: David Howarth, Engineer
Bride's Father: John Brierley, Carder
Witness: William Chadwick; Martha Grindrod, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Sheffield, Curate
Register: Marriages 1845 - 1846, Page 38, Entry 76
Source: LDS Family Search

Marriage: 18 Oct 1840 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
William Howarth - (X), Minor, Weaver, Bachelor, Moor Gate
Ann Stott - (X), Full, Spinster, Caldermoore
Groom's Father: John Howarth, Weaver
Bride's Father: Samuel Stott, Labourer
Witness: John Jackson, (X); John Grindrod
Married by Banns by: W. N. Molesworth
Register: Marriages 1840 - 1841, Page 103, Entry 205
Source: LDS Family Search

So it looks like the children Alice and William James are from different families - not sure what to make of it, after looking at Margaret's 1891 census.

May I ask how you're related to William, Mark? The father of the one who married Ann Stott was John Howarth, a weaver. The one who married Ann Brierley had father David Howarth, an engineer.

Sorry, Flip, I should have refreshed the page before posting.
I just re-checked that 1891 census, definitely son & daughter, both single.

the stott's come from Rochdale
possibles

Baptism: 22 Aug 1815 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Ann Stott - Daughter of Samuel Stott & Catharine
Abode: Town Meadows
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: Thos. Steele A.B. Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1816, Page 229, Entry 1827
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 13 Feb 1820 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Ann Stott - Daughter of Samuel Stott & Martha
Abode: Church Stile
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: Thos. Royds
Register: Baptisms 1818 - 1822, Page 12, Entry 95
Source: LDS Film 1342496

Baptism: 19 Aug 1821 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Ann Stott - Daur. of Samuel Stott & Catherine
Born: 12 Jan 1821
Abode: Top of Zachary
Occupation: Woollen Weaver
Baptised by: Thos. S. Mills Curate
Register: Baptisms 1818 - 1822, Page 67, Entry 529
Source: LDS Film 1342496

there is this ann brierley born Bacup as per the census but other brierleys born Rochdale

Baptism: 19 Jul 1815 St John the Evangelist, Bacup, Lancashire, England
Ann Brierley - Daughter of John Brierley & Mary
Abode: Underbank
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: Wm Porter
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1818, Page 48, Entry 382
Source: LDS Film 559156

1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
53, Red Cross Street, Wardleworth, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Howarth Head Married Male 60 1821 Foreman Iron Moulder Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Ann Howarth Wife Married Female 63 1818 - Bacup, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Alice Ann Howarth Daughter Single Female 30 1851 Milliner And Dressmaker Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Transcription
William Jas Howarth Son Single Male 24 1857 Engineers Draughtsman (M) Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Marriage: 23 Mar 1815 St Nicholas, Newchurch in Rossendale, Lancashire, England
John Brierley - Bacup
Mary Grinderod - Bacup
Witness: George Heap; Wm Lord
Married by Banns by: D Rathbone Curate
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1825, Page 58, Entry 176
Source: LDS Film 950394

Marriage: 8 Sep 1812 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Samuel Stott - (X), this Parish
Catherine Banbury - (X), this Parish
Witness: Jonn. Nield; Richard Henry Drake
Married by Banns by: Thos. Steele A.B. Curate
Register: Marriages 1808 - 1812, Page 337, Entry 222
Source: LDS Family Search

William Howarth 1820 is a sibling to Martha Howarth 1821 who is my 3x great grandmother.

Do you have the parents' names of your Martha? There's a couple on the 41 census that have a brother William and could be her:


Martha Haworth
in the 1841 England Census
Age:
25
Estimated birth year:
abt 1816
Where born:
Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:
Rochdale
Hundred:
Salford
County/Island:
Lancashire

Jermiah Haworth 55
Martha Haworth 60
Martha Haworth 25
William Haworth 22
Thomas Haworth 20

OR:


Martha Howarth
in the 1841 England Census
Age:
19
Estimated birth year:
abt 1822
Where born:
Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:
Blackburn
Hundred:
Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island:
Lancashire

John Howarth 62
Margaret Howarth 60
John Howarth 25
William Howarth 20
Martha Howarth 19
Alice Howarth 17
Edward Howarth 14
Nancy Howarth 13
Margaret Howarth 10

I believe them to be John Howarth and a Sarah, possibly Taylor, her sibling are

Peggy
John
Sarah
Ellen
William
Elizabeth
Alice
Molly
Jane
James
John
Edmund
Sarah
Hannah