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mgnv the info about Ronald and Vera has been posted already by both myself and Dea. Dea posted the deaths info.

I also posted info about the Brantford Clifford on page 1, and CasCas made it clear that from the photo, her Clifford could not have been born 1902.


The naval Clifford Chant detailed by Dea at the top of this page seems rather certain to be the right one.

I don't see a Clifford Chant nor any obvious link to the householder at 1545 Monterey Ave in any contemporary Greater Victoria directory - see:
http://www.vpl.ca/bccd/index.php/


I did find just one Clifford Chant on the 1921 census, but he's a bit older than your dad.

I've pm'ed the image (1921_050-e002916669.jpg) to Cas

EDIT - I've deleted the redundant stuff noted by JC below - I'ld not refreshed the thread page for hours.

He looks like an excellent candidate Dea!

(birth orig reg as Marsh in 1922)



A Clifford Chant lived in Edmonton, Alberta. There are several things about him on line (e.g. a newspaper archive where he was the best man at a wedding). A snippet says (it is hard to see the image as without a paid sub it is blurry):

'brother- in-law of the groom from Vancouver and Mr. Clifford Chant from Edmonton.'

There are also Clifford Chants in Leeds County, Ontario, and Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, but I think they are older than yours should be.

go to

http://www.google.ca

and search for "clifford chant" and then select (using 'tools') pages in Canada to see what is there.

There is also a 1952 wedding of a daughter of a Clifford Chant in a small Ontario town (both her and her mother identified only as 'Mrs'), so again, an older Clifford (could be the one from Leeds County).

... And a much younger one in Manitoba (in school in the 40s) ... you never hear a name, and then when you do, you find it's common as dirt!

These items have also come to my attention regarding a Clifford Chant who served in the Royal Navy and earned the Distinguished Service Medal.

DECORATED BY THE KING:
....... Grenville-road, St. Jude's. Plymouth; Ldg. Sto. Charles Frostick, R.N., of 185; Paslev-street. Stoke, Devonport; A.B. Clifford Chant, R.N., of Pitway-hill. South Petherand C.P.O. Teleg. Leonard Phillips, R.N., who till recently at Queen-street, Newton...........
09 May 1945 - Western Morning News - Plymouth, Devon, England


DECORATED BY THE KING At an Investiture at Buckingham Palace last weeK A.B. Clifford Chant, R.N.. of Pitway-hill. South Petherton was decorated with the Distinguished Service Medal H.M. the King. Mr. Arthur Redstone
18 May 1945 - Western Gazette - Yeovil, Somerset, England

This is his famnily on 1939:


Chant Household (6 People) 11 Pitway South Petherton , Yeovil R.D., Somerset, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Frank E Chant 15 Dec 1887 Gas Works Labourer
Rhoda H Chant 07 Jan 1899 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Leonard A W Chant 04 Feb 1924 At School
Samuel Chant 07 Jan 1862 Incapacitated
Olive E Richer (Chant) 28 Apr 1926 At School
Ernest F Chant 24 Feb 1929 At School


Parents' marriage:
Marriages Jun 1922 (>99%)
CHANT Frank Hillier Yeovil 5c 875 Scan available - click to view
CHANT Frank Marsh Yeovil 5c 875 Scan available - click to view
HILLIER Rhoda Chant Yeovil 5c 875 Scan available - click to view
MARSH Rhoda Chant Yeovil 5c 875 Scan available - click to view

His birth:
Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Chant Clifford Marsh Yeovil 5c SeeS33 *** Scan available - click to view


Siblings:
Births Mar 1924 (>99%)
Chant Leonard A W Marsh Yeovil 5c 519
Births Jun 1926 (>99%)
Chant Olive E Marsh Yeovil 5c 510 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1929 (>99%)
Chant Ernest F Marsh Yeovil 5c 451 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1936 (>99%)
Chant Joyce E Marsh Yeovil 5c 445 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1940 (>99%)
Chant Robert G Marsh Yeovil 5c 1054 Scan available - click to view

His birth re-registered in 1933 - not sure why ?
Births Sep 1933 (>99%) ***
CHANT Clifford Marsh Yeovil 5c 445 Scan available - click to viewAssociated System Entry related to this entry - click for more information


Dea x

P.S.
NOTE TO JUDE - Thank you for enlarging the piccie - I haven't got a clue how you managed it !!

Dea x

Hi again everyone and thanks again for taking the time to reply.

Patchem - my Dad said before he passed away that he and Cliff met several times and kept in touch but never actually said where. Dad travelled all over the world so maybe they met in both UK and Canada (and even elsewhere). How I wish Id asked more at the time but before I knew it it was too late to ask as Dad became unwell.

Im not sure if they ever sailed on the same ships.

Dea and Jude - thanks for the piccie. Im not on Findmypast but think I need to join. Ive checked the photo and it doesnt appear to be the same man :(

Maybe Ill never find out but I will pursue the CC born in the uk but have more or less discounted then now. I think I may write to a few 'Chants' in Canada too.

Moral of the story I suppose is never put off till tomorrow....

Once again thanks everyone and I will keep you posted if I have any luck.

Cassie :-)

Best I can do re "enlargement"

Jude

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/48689377

You initially put

' I believe he and Dad met up many times and remained in contact for some time.'

which was why I wondered where and when they met up initially and how they met up afterwards if on different boats based from different countries.

I'm back...............

I'm not very technical on here and I can't find a way to make it bigger to put in keepsafes and keep it clear at the same time :-(

Is this 'clip' any clearer ? - He is the one in the middle.

If not, I am sure that some other 'clever' person on here will be able to sort something for you.

Dea x

Are you on FindmyPast ?? - If so, you can view it better here: (You can zoom and enlarge and the image is very clear):

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/ViewArticle?id=BL%2F0001858%2F19470829%2F013%2F0010&browse=true


If not, perhaps I could print it out from there and then scan it into my computer and send it through to you ??

I will experiment!

Having to cook lunch at the same time though so it may take a while .....

Dea x

Thanks Dea! Its a possibility.

Im unable to see the photo very well on here as its very small. Could I ask is the view any better if I pay a sub and look at it myself - ie can I make it bigger?

Many thanks.
Cass :-)

I don't know whether this is in any way connected but there is an article here from the Illustrated Sporting and Dramatic News 29 August 1947 mentioning a Clifford Chant.

At the bottom right of the page is a photo and he is shown 3rd from left.

As you have a photo of him around that time, perhaps you would be able to recognise if this is the one - If so, it may help further in your search ?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/48680702

Dea x

Good morning everyone and THANKYOU very much for all the info.
To clarify - the photos are dated 1945 and some show Clifford with my dad. My dad was b1925 and they look similar in age so Im afraid ones mentioned born earlier than I'd say 1922 would not be matches. Dad was in the merchant navy at the time of the photos which fits with the clothes/age in 1945.

Ive checked the trees on this site and contacted those families where possible. The one b1921 in UK I also thought was a possible but appears he married in the uk the same year he was photograped with 'Vera' and also died in uk so I think this is not likely. He also had lots of siblings so I will check the familes of these to be sure.

There are a few more CC born uk but are too young for the chap on the photo.

Unfortunately Ive no idea where Cliff was born but do remember dad saying he was 'Canadian'. I suppose Clifford may not have been his birth name?? But looking at the pics I would say he was born 1920-25.

I cant say for sure if he married Vera as the photos dont state.

Patchem - dad was born in uk and apart from visiting many countries in the merchant navy including Canada he remained in the uk all his life. The photo of him and Cliff together states on the back 'High St Southampton' in same handwriting as the one wishing dad a merry xmas with the canadian address on in 1945 (assume Cliffs writing). Its as if the photos were posted to dad maybe at a later date pos from Canada?

Thanks again for all the info. I think I may now write to any addresses given here.

Regards
Cassie

Ps Ive also sent a few messages on facebk to Chants in Victoria BC. :-S

On the Canada voting lists for Nanaimo in 1949 there is an A C Chant, driver, 3218, Glasgow. (Yes, I have been trying Clifford A, A Clifford, Clifford G, G Clifford, etc).

Presumably 'Glasgow' is a local area in Nanaimo, as several people on the page also have it listed for them?

Have you searched trees here? there are several people with the 1908 and the 1921 Clifford Chants in their trees, so you could easily ask whether he lived in Canada / had a wife or relation named Vera.

could be related Dea but it's actually *Clifford* Chant we are looking for :-)

I checked and Ronald didn't seem to have siblings

edit - ah seeing your last post now, you were thinking the same thing, could be related

A Clifford Chant married in Southampton but not to a Vera

Marriages Sep 1935
Chant Clifford E - Comley Southampton 2c 43
Comley Hilda M - Chant Southampton 2c 43

A Hilda M Chant died in Brighton in 1938, aged 22 ... wrong age for the likely Hilda married to that Clifford

Births Dec 1913
Comley Hilda M - Spanner S. Stoneham 2c 147

... except there doesn't seem to be a birth or marriage to account for the 1938 death otherwise.

I would guess this is the Clifford who married Hilda:

Births Sep 1908
Chant Clifford - Norman S. Stoneham 2c 72

the next Clifford Chant birth was 1921, then 1923, 1926 and 1927.

But of course he could have been born in Canada.


Sandra what I'm not clear on is the date of the photo, the address dates to Christmas 1945, but the photo itself?

There is also this birth, in England, just for information, as you are not sure if Clifford A or Clifford G:

Births Dec 1921
Chant Clifford G Kearley Frome 5c 627

Added:
Probably this death, though:
Deaths Sep 1975
Chant Clifford George 6th October 1921 Mendip 23 956

You have said that you think your Father and Clifford met up many times, could you confirm that your Father also lived in Victoria, or elsewhere?

Ronald on 1911:


Name: Ronald Joseph Chant
Age in 1911: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon
Civil Parish: Plymouth
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County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 94 Beaumont Rd, Plymouth
Registration district: Plymouth
Registration District Number: 276
Sub-registration district: Plymouth South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 338
Piece: 12969
Household Members:
Name Age
Winifred Ellen Chant 23
Ronald Joseph Chant 1

Dea x

This is Winnifred Lillie's death cert:

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/c43491c9-594c-4eb7-bda3-edd3c128a4fc

She was born in Cardiff on 9th October, 1886. - Parents Thomas Henry + Petronell Hallett

Dea x

Don't know if it helps but there is this death cert:

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/25a583eb-f833-4063-8a58-bc0627d45d13



Event Type:
Death
Registration Number:
1975-09-012299
BC Archives Mfilm Number:
B13344
GSU Mfilm Number:
2050444
Event Date (YYYY-MM-DD):
1975-08-11
Event Place:
VICTORIA
Age at Death:
65
Person:
RONALD JOSEPH CHANT
Vital Stat Images(s):
004479352_01719.jpg

He was married to Vera Olive Waller
His parents were John Chant and Winnifred Lillie (mmn Doidge)
He was born in Plymouth, England.


Dea x

The Legion's Last Post (deaths of Legion members, mostly recent) doesn't show any death for that name.

https://legionmagazine.com/en/last-post/?mode=collection

One of the Cliffords in records is in a 1907 class photo as a young child ... seated beside a Vera Taugher :-)

From the 1921 census, he was born in 1902.

http://images.ourontario.ca/brant/2751165/data?n=10

There are 2 Chant listings in Victoria today, one of which gives an address

http://www.canada411.ca/search/?stype=si&what=chant&where=Victoria%2C+BC

There would be no harm in writing.