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12 Jul 2017 15:59 |
Hi Olive- the Dennis Family Tree is private. Ancestry subscribers also can't see the information.
From GRO:
ASHER, FREDERICK RUSSELL (mother's maiden name: SAMPSON) GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 393
HARRIS, JOSEPH (mother's maiden name: FRINCH) GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in GRANTHAM Volume 07A Page 503
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Olive Jean
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12 Jul 2017 12:12 |
Hi Agian I have just noticed there's a Private Family Tree on Ancestry co uk
The Family Tree is Dennis Family Tree For Joseph Harris born 1882 Grantham
So I wondered if they are both conected as they are the names I am researching Would it be possible for someone to have a look for me please As I am not a member Thankyou and please Olive
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Olive Jean
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12 Jul 2017 06:19 |
Hi I just wondered if someone could open a Private Family Tree on Ancestry for me Please As I am not a member The Family Tree is Dennis Family Tree For Frederick Russell Asher born 1903 Nottingham Thankyou Olive
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Olive Jean
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28 Jun 2017 18:08 |
Thank you GreyGhost For finding more info What I ment re Violet Harris was I wondered what her Mothers maiden name was Thankyou for finding it for me
Yes a marriage Certificate would a good idea Bye for now and Thankyou so much Olive
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28 Jun 2017 17:10 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HARRIS, VIOLET TAYLOR Order GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 412
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) JOSEPH Last name HARRIS Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1901 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOSEPH HARRIS married one of these people Ellen White, Clara Taylor District Nottingham District number - County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 7B Page 781
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28 Jun 2017 17:05 |
You need certificates to confirm -
Looks like Alfred Asher married Mary Sampson 1902
They were likely the parents of Frederick 1903 and Clara 1906.
Alfred and Mary have gone their separate ways and by 1911 are living at different addresses, but both say that are still married (divorce didn't really happen back then).
Mary is living with Samuel Newton and child Elsie has been given the Newton surname as a middle name, so I would guess is more than likely his. However the birth was registered with her Mother's maiden name of Sampson and married Asher name.
Mary says she has had a 4th child who has died, but I haven't found the registration.
Don't be too specific when looking for people - always use name variants and +/- 2 years at least when searching.
I don't know what you mean about Violet and her parents etc
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 18 Ledger Yard Ilkeston Road Radford Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Joseph Harris Head Married Male Coal Miner Below Ground Hewer 29 1882 Grantham Clara Harris Wife Married Female Lacehand Dresser 29 1882 Nottingham Violet Harris Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Radford Notts
Married 9 years 3 Children born 2 have died
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Olive Jean
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28 Jun 2017 15:09 |
Wow Grey Ghost Thankyou so much for all your effort I can see why I couldn't find Fredeerick R Asher born 1903
So these are all thier children of Alfred Ashher born 1881 Nottingham Mary Sampson born 1883 Nottingham Asher Newton Elsie 1909 Asher Clara 1905 --1906 Frederick R. 1903 -- 1951 I wonder why Frederick was living with relatives also his Mother and his Father
Have you any idea who Violet Harris born 1902 Nottingham Mother surname It states Clara Harris father Joseph This is all part of the Sidney Harvey 1894 Thankyou once agian Olive
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28 Jun 2017 13:05 |
Not seeing the 4th birth at present
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ASHER, ELSIE MEWTON SAMPSON Order GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 439 ASHER, CLARA SAMPSON Order GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 425
ASHER, FREDERICK RUSSELL SAMPSON Order GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 393
------------------------- The death will be in months not years - the GRO site can't distinguish Name: Age at Death (in years): ASHER, CLARA 14 Order GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 174
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28 Jun 2017 12:56 |
?? Possibly Alfred and Mary living separately in 1911.
Arthur has mistakenly completed married 10 years.
She says married 9 years, 4 children born 2 living 2 have died.
Elise Newton Asher is recorded on GRO site with mmn Sampson
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 50 Schooner St Radford Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Harriet Keetley Mother Widow Female Mender 54 1857 Nottingham Fredrick Whitworth Brother In Law Married Male Wheelwright 26 1885 Nottingham Edith Whitworth Sister Married Female Mender 22 1889 Nottingham Lancelot Albert Keetley Brother Single Male Pastor 18 1893 Nottingham Arthur Mansley Pass Boarder Single Male Dairyman 33 1878 Nottingham Alfred Asher Boarder Married Male Labourer 30 1881 Nottingham Albert Waldram Visitor - Male - 3 1908 Nottingham
-------------------------------------------- 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 18 Terrace St Hyson Green Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Samuel Newton Head Married Male Collier At Face 40 1871 Notts Carlton Mary Asher Housekeper Married Female Winder 28 1883 Nottingham Elsie Newton Asher Daughter - Female - 2 1909 -
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28 Jun 2017 12:50 |
?? Which doesn't lead directly to this marriage, but could still be related
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) ALFRED Last name ASHER Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1902 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ ALFRED ASHER married one of these people Mary Sampson, Lydia Hannah Wright District Nottingham District number - County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 7B Page 599
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28 Jun 2017 12:45 |
Following the Sampson family that he's with in 1911 -
11, Camden Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Arthur Sampson Head Married Male 46 1855 Labourer Corporation Nottinghamshire, England Elizabeth Sampson Wife Married Female 45 1856 Lace Hand Clipper And Scolloper Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, England William Sampson Son Single Male 6 1895 School Nottinghamshire, England
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28 Jun 2017 12:16 |
?? - Age 8 would fit a Dec 1902 birth and the Q1 birth reg, with mmn Sampson - here possibly lodging with Sampson relatives
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 11 Camden Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Arthur Sampson Head Married Male Labourer Plumbers 50 1861 Nottingham Elizabeth Sampson Wife Married Female Washerwoman 56 1855 Ticknett Melbourne William Sampson Son - Male Errand Lad 16 1895 Nottingham Fred Asher Lodger - Male - 8 1903 Nottingham
Married 30 years. 3 children born 2 have died
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28 Jun 2017 12:12 |
?His death. 1951 - 48 makes 1903 as stated, but it would have to have been early 1902 to early 1903 depending on when in Q1 he died, so the Frederick Russell Q1 1903 birth registration would work. Unless the age at death is wrong!
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) FREDERICK R Last name ASHER Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1903 Age 48 Death quarter 1 Death year 1951 District Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Volume 3C Page 429
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28 Jun 2017 11:55 |
If this is your Frederick and the year of birth is correct then looking for a Q4 1903 or Q1 1904 birth registration. The initial could be R on the register. It's not like the A in Asher, but is more like the initial of sons Frederick and Cyril - GRO shows their initial to be A
Asher Household (13 People) 24 Whitwell Road , Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England Attach to tree View original imagePrint FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Violet Asher 31 Mar 1902 Female Unpaid House Duties Married 111 2 Frederick A Asher 17 Dec 1903 Male Sand Bla? Married 111 1 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Frederick A Asher 09 Jul 1924 Male School Single 111 5 Joseph W Asher 19 Aug 1926 Male School Single 111 6 Dorothy M Squires (Asher) 17 Sep 1927 Female School Single 111 7 Cyril A Asher 04 Oct 1928 Male School Single 111 8 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Pauline P Watts (Asher) 16 Dec 1935 Female School Single 111 11 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
These are the 2 possibilities for the registrations
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ASHER, FREDERICK ELEY Order GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 207 ASHER, FREDERICK WESSON Order GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 383
Neither have an initial - so if the year of birth were out by 1 on the 1939 register the one below would be a possibility
ASHER, FREDERICK RUSSELL SAMPSON Order GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 393
Do you have the 1921 marriage certificate for Father's names and occupations?
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Olive Jean
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28 Jun 2017 10:50 |
Hi Just an up date on Violet Harris born 1902 Nottingham I have found Violet Harris on 1911 Census with her Mother and Father Clara ? And Joseph Harris born 1882 Grantham
I just can not find Frederick R Asher born 1903 Nottingham
Violet Harris - Frederick R Asher married 1921 Nottingham
They are both on 1939 Register Any ideas Bye for now and thankyou Olive
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Olive Jean
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19 Jun 2017 16:03 |
Hi I wondered if you would find me a 1911 Census for
Violet Harris born 1902 Nottingham please
Violet Harris married Frederick Asher who was born 1903 Nottingham Married 1921 Nottingham
Also,they were living Nottingham when the 1939 came out
This is a part of The Harvey Family Thank you Olive
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Olive Jean
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18 Jun 2017 17:14 |
Thankyou Austin Q 1881 census it Looks like Rosina is living with her Brother 1871 Census she is with her Family Thankyou Any luck with Sidney Harvey born 1894 1911 Census Please Thankyou again Olive
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18 Jun 2017 16:15 |
Parent's marriage:
Name: Robert Francis Webster Spouse: Fanny Francis King Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 17 Dec 1851 Parish: St Andrew, Bethnal Green Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: James Webster Spouse Father: James King Register Type: Parish Register ------------------------------------------
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bow Common Lane Martins Row, Bromley St Leonard, Poplar, London, England
Robert Webster Head - Male 39 1832 - Middlesex, England Francis Webster Wife - Female 39 1832 - Middlesex, England Robert Webster Son - Male 17 1854 - Middlesex, England Charles Webster Son - Male 15 1856 - Middlesex, England Francis Webster Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Middlesex, England Elizabeth Webster Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Middlesex, England James Webster Son - Male 8 1863 - Middlesex, England Rose Webster Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Middlesex, England William Webster Son - Male 4 1867 - Middlesex, England Martha Webster Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Middlesex, England
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AustinQ
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18 Jun 2017 16:13 |
IS it this Rose with her brother?
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Exeter Villas, 2, Selborne Road, Walthamstow, West Ham, London, England
Charles Webster Head Married Male 25 1856 Bricklayer Bethnal Green, Middlesex Catherine M Webster Wife Married Female 20 1861 - Devon, Jacob J Webster Son Single Male 2 1879 - Leytonstone, Essex, Rosina A Webster Sister Single Female 16 1865 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Births:
WEBSTER, CHARLES mother's maiden name: KING GRO Reference: 1856 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 265
WEBSTER, ROSE ANN mother's maiden name: KING GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 295
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Olive Jean
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18 Jun 2017 14:44 |
Just to say I am doing quite well on The Harvey Family
But I can not seam to find Rosina Ann Webster Mothers name I know her Father is Robert Webster as it is stated on her Marriage to Joseph Harvey 1884 St Marks Church
Also I haveBirth and death of Sidney Harvey born West Ham 1894 Death 1940 But just carnt find him on 1911 Census Any ideas please Thankyou Olive
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