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29 Sep 2017 06:45 |
See Lyon Asher on google search, he is quite popular!.
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16 August 1860 - Nottinghamshire Guardian - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
Death On the12th instant of yellow jaundice, aged 74, Mr. Lyon Asher, sponge dealer. Newcastle Street Nottingham.
29 August 1845 - Nottingham Review and General Advertiser for the Midland
Death On Sunday last, aged 21, Rosa, wife of William Woolley, he has been husband, father, and widower, within the term of eleven months. She was the only daughter of Mr. Lyon Asher, of Newcastle street, in this town.
04 October 1844 - Nottingham Review and General Advertiser for the
MARRIED On Sunday, at St. Mary's, Mr. William Woolley, to Miss Rosa Asher, the only daughter of Mr. Leyon Asher, of Newcastle-street. At St. Paul’s church,
15 December 1843 - Nottingham Review and General Advertiser for the
Death At Jamaica, on the 28th October last, of dysentery, in his 29th year, George, the son of Mr. Lyon Asher, of Newcastle-street, in this town. The deceased was a promising young man, and drum - major in the 2d West India Regiment.
26 February 1847 - Nottingham Review and General Advertiser for the
Married On Saturday last, at St. Paul’s church, Mr. Abraham Asher, to Miss Harriet Russell.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/e40d1f82-e24a-4a74-9231-19a4beceb060
(Description: PETTY SESSIONS: NON-PAYMENT OF POOR RATE: ST. PETER'S PARISH: summons of Lyon Asher. Date: 1820 Sept 30 Held by: Nottinghamshire Archives)
https://www.british-genealogy.com/archive/index.php/t-43851.html
Deaths Mar 1869 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- Asher Elizabeth 79 Nottingham 7b 179
Baptism County Nottinghamshire Place Nottingham Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Baptism date 22 Jan 1818 Person forename Samuel Lyon Person sex M Person abode Newcastle St Father forename William Father surname ASHER Father occupation Hawker Mother forename Elizabeth
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(possible sister for Harriet, Father same occ. Framework Knitter)
Baptism County Nottinghamshire Place Nottingham Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Baptism date 16 Dec 1833 Person forename Ann Person sex F Person abode Howard St Father forename William Father surname RUSSELL Father occupation FWK Mother forename Mary
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28 Sep 2017 23:15 |
Name: Age at Death (in years): ASHER, LYON 72 Order GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 119
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28 Sep 2017 23:07 |
1841 doesn't give Lyon's country of birth but 1851 does
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Newcastle Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Lyon Asher Male 45 1796 - Betsey Asher Female 45 1796 Nottinghamshire, England Joseph Asher Male 20 1821 Nottinghamshire, England Rosa Asher Female 15 1826 - Abraham Asher Male 12 1829 - Jacob Asher Male 10 1831 - Reuben Asher Male 7 1834 -
Lyon is a Traveller
----------------------------------------------------------------- 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 56, Newcastle Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Lyon Asher Head Married Male 63 1788 General Dealer Germany Betsy Asher Wife Married Female 51 1800 Shirt Maker Northamptonshire, England Jacob Asher Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Smith Nottinghamshire, England Rheuben Asher Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 White Smith Nottinghamshire, England
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28 Sep 2017 23:04 |
Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription
First name(s) Abraham Last name Asher Marriage year 1847 Marriage date 20 Feb 1847 Marriage place Nottingham Church St Paul Denomination Anglican Spouse's first name(s) Harriot Spouse's last name Russel County Nottinghamshire Country England Record set Nottinghamshire Marriages Index 1528-1929 Category Birth, Marriage, Death
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28 Sep 2017 23:01 |
?????? Nottinghamshire baptisms index 1538-1917 Transcription
First name(s) Harriet Last name Russell Birth year - Baptism year 1830 Baptism date 04 Jul 1830 Denomination Anglican Church St Mary Baptism place Nottingham Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Russell Mother's first name(s) Mary Mother's last name Russell Residence Old St County Nottinghamshire Country England Record set Nottinghamshire Baptisms Index 1538-1917 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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28 Sep 2017 23:00 |
?????? There is only 1 Harriet Russell of any age showing on Notts census 1841, unfortunately it would appear not with parents, unless Ellen is her mother and remarried.
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Gedling Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Samuel Brown Male 50 1791 Nottinghamshire, England Ellen Brown Female 50 1791 Nottinghamshire, England Samuel Brown Male 20 1821 Nottinghamshire, England Sarah Connor Female 15 1826 Nottinghamshire, England Harriott Russell Female 12 1829 Nottinghamshire, England Henry Sedgwick Male 10 1831 Nottinghamshire, England
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28 Sep 2017 22:57 |
Abraham and Harriet 1851
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 16, Trumpet Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Abraham Asher Head Married Male 24 1827 Machine Smith Journeyman Nottingham, Harriett Asher Wife Married Female 22 1829 Silk Glove Seamer Nottingham, Nottinghamshire Esther Asher Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
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Olive Jean
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28 Sep 2017 19:34 |
Hi Just an up date of the Famies of Asher and Sampson I have found the Marriage Transcript of Alfred Asher and Mary Sampson 1902 Nottingham
Abraham Asher and Harriott Rusel 1847 Nottingham Harrietts fathers name isn't very clear though Abraham Father is Lyon Asher on the 1841 Census it states he is born in Germany I wonder if any members have any information on Lyon Asher born Germany And who is Harriett Russel father is Thankyou and bye for now
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Olive Jean
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13 Jul 2017 16:29 |
Chris Ho Thankyou for your help today I am going to get the all the Census at the Local Library tomorrow Next week I will go to the Central Library in Nottingham and see what birth and Marriages I can find
Then I will suggest getting Frederick R Ashers and Violet Harris Marriege 1921 to my friend Bye for now Olive
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13 Jul 2017 16:20 |
well, Arthur should be Father...
Might be better to get Birth Cert. of Frederick Russell Asher as well, lol.
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Olive Jean
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13 Jul 2017 16:02 |
Hi again Chris Ho Yes I know Grey Ghost Reported this 1911 Census this to me along with lots of info To help me with my searches
You are all really helpful with the info you send me But I just wondered how Arthur and Elizabeth Sampson are related to Fred or (Frederick R Asher) Thankyou agian Olive
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13 Jul 2017 14:35 |
(wasn't that him below, posted earlier)
If in doubt get that 1921 Marriage Cert.!...
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greyghost Report 28 Jun 2017 12:16
?? - Age 8 would fit a Dec 1902 birth and the Q1 birth reg, with mmn Sampson - here possibly lodging with Sampson relatives
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 11 Camden Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Arthur Sampson Head Married Male Labourer Plumbers 50 1861 Nottingham Elizabeth Sampson Wife Married Female Washerwoman 56 1855 Ticknett Melbourne William Sampson Son - Male Errand Lad 16 1895 Nottingham Fred Asher Lodger - Male - 8 1903 Nottingham
Married 30 years. 3 children born 2 have died
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Olive Jean
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13 Jul 2017 13:52 |
Hi Chris Ho Thankyou for your reply Frederick Russell Asher married Violet Harris Nottingham 1921 which is right born 1903 Died 1951 born 1903 died 1947 i think (Nottinngham) they are on the 1939 Register Nottingham Frederick Russell Asher Mother and Father were Arthur Asher and Mary Sampson But on the 1911 Census they are living apart But where is Frederick Russell Asher born 1903 Nottingham living If the names stated are not true on the 1911 Census
Hope this makes sence Olive Thankyou Any ideas
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13 Jul 2017 13:13 |
(no idea here, but there is below!, all getting complicated)
Arthur 1911 his Father (I presume)
Edits (1911 Arthur, says Married 30yrs, 3 children born,1 living, 2 died)
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Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Stephen Last name Wilsea Marriage year 1890 Marriage date 06 Oct 1890 Marriage place Nottingham Church St Mark Denomination Anglican Spouse's first name(s) Ellen Spouse's last name Donoughue County Nottinghamshire
Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------- Donoughue Ellen Nottingham 7b 516 Wilsea Stephen Nottingham 7b 516
Deaths Jun 1901 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- Wilsea Ellen 38 Nottingham 7b 202
Deaths Sep 1926 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- Sampson Arthur 65 Nottingham 7b 298
(possible for him)
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Olive Jean
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13 Jul 2017 10:54 |
Hi Thankyou for all the lastest information Thankyou for writing the WW1 Records for Joseph Harris born 1882 Grantham
Also the birth of Mary Sampson Mary Sampson married Alfred Asher 1902 Nottingham
But it seams they went thier separate ways
1911 Census Mary Asher (nee Sampson ) is living with Samuel Newton and thier Daughter
1911 census Alfred Asher born 1881 Nottingham is a Boarder
1911 Census Fred ( Frederick Russell Asher born 1903 thier son ) is living with Arthur Sampson born 1861 Nottm Elizabeth Sampson born 1855 Ticknett Melbourne So how are they related to Mary Sampson Please
Thankyou once again Olive
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13 Jul 2017 07:56 |
(was below, Find My Past)
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Harris Joseph 1882 — 1900 British Army Service Records Spitagate, Grantham, Lincolnshire, England (Father, Joseph, Mother, Mary, 14 Pine St. Old Radford Notts.)
Harris Joseph 1882 — 1906 British Army Service Records Spittal Gate, Grantham, Lincolnshire, England (wife Clara, 9 Pine Street Old Radford Nottingham)
(not seeing a Mother Mary)
1901 (Find My Past) Joseph Harris Head Married Male 42 1859 Gas Stoker Helpringham, Lincolnshire, England Sarah Harris Wife Married Female 45 1856 - Cowbit, Lincolnshire, England Joseph Harris Son Single Male 19 1882 Coal Miner Dayman (Under Ground) Grantham, Lincolnshire, England Miles Harris Son Single Male 15 1886 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Harry Knowles Boarder Married Male 24 1877 Bricklayer's Labourer Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Elizabeth Knowles Boarder Married Female 21 1880 - Grantham, Lincolnshire, England Street Pine Street 14 Parish Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Municipal ward Wollaton Registration district Nottingham Archive reference RG13 Piece number 3182 Folio 194 Page 24
1911 (Find My Past) Joseph Harris Head Married Male Bricklayers Labourer 54 1857 Sterford (Sleaford)Lincolnshire Sarah Ann Harris Wife Married Female - 56 1855 Spelding (Spalding) Lincolnshire Harry Knowles Grandson - Male - 9 1902 Nottingham Address 11 Pine Street Radford Nottingham Census reference RG14 PN20629 RG78 PN1231 RD430 SD4 ED37 SN250 (says Married 33yrs, 14 children born, 3 living, 11 died)
Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- French Sarah Grantham 7a 787 HARRIS Joseph Grantham 7a 787
HARRIS, JOSEPH (FRINCH) GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in GRANTHAM Volume 07A Page 503
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13 Jul 2017 06:29 |
(possible below, but you do need to get Certs. sometimes to verify)
Don't always rely on 'Trees' of others!.
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Baptism County Nottinghamshire Place Nottingham Church name St Stephen Register type Unspecified Baptism date 16 Apr 1882 Person forename Mary Person sex F Person abode 52 Sherwood Lane Father forename Arthur Father surname SAMPSON Father occupation Lacemaker Mother forename Ellen
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Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------- Donoghue Ellen Nottingham 7b 350 Sampson Arthur Nottingham 7b 350
SAMPSON, MARY (DONOUGHUE) GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 333
1881 (Find My Past) Mary Donoughe Head Widow Female 38 1843 Washing Ireland John Donoughe Son Single Male 15 1866 Cotton Winder Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Mary Donoughe Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Factory Hand Tex Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Arthur Sampson Son In Law Married Male 20 1861 Curtain Maker Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Ellen Sampson Daughter Married Female 18 1863 Factory Hand Tex Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Priscilla Sampson Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England House number 54 Street Sherwood Lane Parish Nottingham St Mary County Nottinghamshire Registration district Nottingham Archive reference RG11 Piece number 3353 Folio 28 Page 19
Baptism County Nottinghamshire Place Nottingham Church name St Stephen Register type Unspecified Baptism date 17 Feb 1881 Person forename Priscilla Person sex F Person abode Sherwood Lane Father forename Arthur Father surname SAMPSON Father occupation Lacemaker Mother forename Ellen
Deaths Sep 1881 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- SAMPSON Priscilla 0 Nottingham 7b 164
1901 (Find My Past) Stephen Wilsea Head Married Male 47 1854 Corpn Paviour Norwich, Norfolk, England Ellen Wilsea Wife Married Female 38 1863 Cotton Winder Nottinghamshire, England Mary Sampson Step Daughter - Female 18 1883 Cotton Winder Nottinghamshire, England Martha Wilsea Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Nottinghamshire, England William Sampson Step Son - Male 0 1901 - Nottinghamshire, England Street Bedford Square Parish Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Municipal ward Forest Registration district Nottingham Archive reference RG13 Piece number 3184 Folio 167 Page 35
Baptism County Nottinghamshire Place Nottingham Church name St Barnabas Register type Unspecified Baptism date 14 Sep 1862 Birth date 29 Aug 1862 Person forename Ellen Person sex F Father forename Michael Father surname DONOGHOUE Mother forename Mary Mother surname BOLEN
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Olive Jean
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12 Jul 2017 22:00 |
Hi Thankyou for all your replies and all the information you have sent
I have managed to find the WW1 Records of Joseph Harris born 1882 Grantham It state next of Kin Wife Clara Violet Children Clara Children But The copy is a job to read it Havnt found any thing about Clara Taylor born Nottingham Joseph Harris wife
The Asher Family are very interesting it looks as though Mary Asher nee Sampson had 2 Children by Samuel Newton!! I haven't managed to find Mary Sampson Born 1883 ? Nottingham Family up to now
But now I now some of the Ashers family Baptisems I will find the Church of St Peter Radford Thankyou all agian Olive
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12 Jul 2017 17:39 |
(don't suppose below would be Father?)
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Baptism County Nottinghamshire Place Radford Church name St Peter Register type Unspecified Baptism date 30 Mar 1887 Person forename Frederick Russell Person sex M Person abode 9 Bramcote St Father forename Abraham Father surname ASHER Father occupation Brewer Mother forename Eliza
(also 4 others same time)
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(no, Brother to below, same time)
Baptism County Nottinghamshire Place Radford Church name St Peter Register type Unspecified Baptism date 30 Mar 1887 Person forename Alfred Person sex M Person abode 9 Bramcote St Father forename Abraham Father surname ASHER Father occupation Brewer Mother forename Eliza
ASHER, FREDERICK RUSSELL (CASTLE) GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in RADFORD Volume 07B Page 231
ASHER, ALFRED (CASTLE) GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 256
Marriages Mar 1875 ------------------------------------------------------- Asster Abraham Radford 7b 269 jrt ASSTER Abraham Radford 7b 269 johnw
Postems for this entry:
07/03/2012 ASHER Abraham married an Eliza CASTLE in 1875. I believe his surname has been mis-read & typed up as ASSTER somewhere along the way.
https://www.deceasedonline.com/
(Frederick Russell Asher on above, Bulwell Cemetery)
Edits (another Birth)
ASHER, HANNAH NEWTON (SAMPSON) GRO Reference: 1913 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 760
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12 Jul 2017 17:28 |
They are very likely connected - see 1911 census top of page and previous posts re the family
Joseph Harris b 1882 Grantham - Father of Violet Harris
Violet Harris married Frederick Russell Asher 1921
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