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17 Oct 2017 17:23 |
?? Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription
First name(s) Thomas Last name Savage Marriage year 1798 Marriage date 23 Jul 1798 Marriage place Radford Church St Peter Denomination Anglican Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Greensmith County Nottinghamshire Country England
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William 3.12.1798 St Nicholas Mary Ann 26.8.1800 St Mary Charlotte 3.9.1802 St Mary Thomas 25.11.1805 St Mary Giles Ann Amelia 21.11.1813 St Mary. From freereg - of Poynton Street. Father a Frame Work Knitter Frances 10.8.1817 St Mary of ditto
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17 Oct 2017 17:15 |
Was Giles a brother to Ann?
Nottinghamshire baptisms index 1538-1917 Transcription
First name(s) Giles Last name Savage Birth year - Baptism year 1808 Baptism date 04 Jan 1808 Denomination Anglican Church St Mary Baptism place Nottingham Father's first name(s) Thomas Father's last name Savage Mother's first name(s) Ann Mother's last name Savage
Nottinghamshire baptisms index 1538-1917 Transcription
First name(s) Ann Last name Savage Birth year - Baptism year 1810 Baptism date 10 Aug 1810 Denomination Anglican Church St Mary Place Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Country England Father's first name(s) Thomas Father's last name Savage Mother's first name(s) Ann Archive Nottinghamshire Archives Document type Bishop's Transcripts Year range 1801-1812
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17 Oct 2017 17:00 |
? Other children missing from census
TAYLOR, CHARLOTTE SAVAGE Order GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 584
TAYLOR, FANNY SAVAGE Order GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 605
TAYLOR, GILES SAVAGE Order GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 169
Deaths Name: Age at Death (in years): Order: TAYLOR, CHARLOTTE 8 Order GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 442
TAYLOR, GILES 8 Order GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 115 Order Age will be 8 months not years for both children
? Co-incidence A Giles Savage is also buried with John and Ellen - d 25.4.1852, buried 29.4.1852 (original 27th). Aged 45 of Back Lane, a Tailor. He was the first burial in the plot.
Age 45 of Back Lane a Tailor
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17 Oct 2017 16:48 |
?? Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription
First name(s) George Last name Taylor Marriage year 1836 Marriage date 12 Nov 1836 Marriage place Nottingham Church St Mary Denomination Anglican Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Robinson County Nottinghamshire
BUT ?? Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: TAYLOR, AMELIA SAVAGE Order GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 657
SO ?? Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription
First name(s) James William Last name Robinson Sex Male Denomination Anglican Residence Nottingham, St Nicholas Marriage year 1827 Marriage date 07 Aug 1827 Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Savage Spouse's residence Nottingham, St Nicholas Church St Nicholas Place Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Country England By licence or by banns Banns First witness Thomas Savage Second witness Charlotte Savage Document type Bishop's Transcripts Year range 1814-1831 Page 291
AND - names as per 1851 census
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: TAYLOR, JOHN SAVAGE Order GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in TOWN OF NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 636
TAYLOR, GEORGE SAVAGE Order GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 584
TAYLOR, WILLIAM SAVAGE Order GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 653 Order
TAYLOR, PHEBE SAVAGE Order GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page
TAYLOR, ANN SAVAGE Order GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 389 Order
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17 Oct 2017 16:33 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 6, Poynton Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Taylor Head Married Male 52 1799 Brewer Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England Ann Taylor Wife Married Female 41 1810 - Nottinghamshire, England Ann Taylor Daughter - Female 13 1838 Lace Drawer Nottinghamshire, England Phoeby Taylor Daughter - Female 9 1842 Lace Drawer Nottinghamshire, England William Taylor Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Nottinghamshire, England George Taylor Son - Male 4 1847 At Home Nottinghamshire, England John Taylor Son - Male 2 1849 At Home Nottinghamshire, England
------------------------------------- 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pointon Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place George Taylor Male 40 1801 Nottinghamshire, England Ann Taylor Female 30 1811 Nottinghamshire, England Ann Taylor Female 3 1838 Nottinghamshire, England
George is a Publican
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17 Oct 2017 16:19 |
??? John is a Cabman
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Poynton Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ann Taylor Head - Female 58 1813 - Nottinghamshire, England William Taylor Son - Male 26 1845 - Nottinghamshire, England John Taylor Son - Male 21 1850 - Nottinghamshire, England Phoebe Taylor Daughter - Female 28 1843 - Nottinghamshire, England Amile Taylor Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Nottinghamshire, England
Ann is a Widow ------------------------------------- Same family 1861 - Father George as per marriage posted earlier of John Taylor and Mary Smalley
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 6, Poynton Street, St Marys, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Taylor Head Married Male 66 1795 Brewer Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England Ann Taylor Wife Married Female 50 1811 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Phoebe Taylor Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 Bonnet Front Maker Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England William Taylor Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Boot & Shoe Maker Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England George Taylor Son - Male 14 1847 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England John Taylor Son - Male 12 1849 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Amelia Taylor Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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17 Oct 2017 16:05 |
?? Clara Taylor mmn Smalley born 1882 married Joseph Harris 1901
Sarah Ann Harris mmn Taylor born 1909 (Clara had a sister Sarah Annie b 1871)
I did wonder if Clara wasn't actually daughter of John Taylor in that earlier post. Perhaps held up by the 1901 census posted by Choccy at 1332 of Clara Smalley living next to Joseph?
Burials - Nottingham General Cemetery - could be John??
John Taylor aged 28 buried 28 December 1878 - could fit with death below as Basford RD covers Arnold where John died. The ages are a year out but I've seen that before between GRO and Burial
TAYLOR, JOHN 29 Order GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 115
Also same grave - Ellen Taylor aged 5 years buried 26 August 1881 which could fit daughter Nellie as below who was Ellen on 1881 census
TAYLOR, NELLIE SMALLEY Order GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 269
Name: Age at Death (in years): Order: TAYLOR, ELLEN 5 Order GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 171 Order
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17 Oct 2017 15:37 |
So John (Cabman) who died 25th Dec. 1878 was married to Mary Smalley...
How can Clara Harris with baby Sarah Ann have Maiden name Taylor then?...
Chris :)
(anybody seeing the 'wood for the trees', think I've lost it again, lol)
No, think I'm back on track now!!, grief, time for coffee and a 'wake up'!.
Oh, below posted earlier was other problem!!...
greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 12:19
?? Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: TAYLOR, CLARA SMALLEY GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 299
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17 Oct 2017 15:34 |
Hi On the 1911 Census it states 3 children born but 1 survived Which was Violet Harris
I came across Clara Harris Baptised 1904 9 Pine Street ( Clara and Joseph Harris )
Will look for Sarah Ann Harris next time I go to Nottingham Library
I didn't think I would find all this out after receiving the Marriage
It will tell you some where how old John Talylor was when he died Thankyou Olive
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17 Oct 2017 15:32 |
No mention of family names - just referred to as wife and 4 children
(The pubs - The Ram and the Forest Tavern - mentioned in the article are still there !)
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17 Oct 2017 15:20 |
Hi What does Edits is something not quite right here
I have found the News Paper Artical but I just carnt open it up I will have to Waite in till I go to the Library
As I am interested in the names of the family
Olive
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17 Oct 2017 15:17 |
No names mentioned in article, just wife and four children...
Chris :)
Then who is below?...(Pine Street)
Birth HARRIS, SARAH ANN (TAYLOR) GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 421
Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- HARRIS Sarah Ann 0 Nottingham 7b 283
19 March 1907 - Nottingham Journal - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Sarah Ann Harris, of 9, Pine-street, aged eight weeks, who was found dead in bed yesterday morning. Dr. Johnson was of the opinion that death was due to suffocation, and a verdict in accordance with his evidence was returned.
06 September 1909 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
POLICE PUBLIC. Clara Harris, a married woman, of 9. Pine-street, was fined for obstructing the police, it being stated that owing to her hanging round the neck of one of the prisoners, it took the police a quarter of an hour to proceed five yards.
(in connection with Thomas Marsh of 78, Salisbury Street and William Oldham of Redoubt Street, colliers, being charged for being drunk and disorderly in Ilkeston Road, assaulting several constables)
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17 Oct 2017 15:00 |
Wow I will go into the Nottingham Library You say it mentions his wife name and children What names are given please Olive
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17 Oct 2017 13:47 |
(adds to references posted earlier)
Chris :)
County Nottinghamshire Place Nottingham Church name St Mary Register type Transcript Marriage date 1 Jun 1871 Groom forename John Groom surname TAYLOR Groom age 21 Bride forename Mary Bride surname SMALLEY Bride age 23 Groom father forename George Groom father surname TAYLOR Bride father forename William Bride father surname SMALLEY Register note Groom's father deceased.
Baptism County Nottinghamshire Place Nottingham Church name St Thomas Register type Unspecified Baptism date 06 Jul 1879 Person forename Mary Person sex F Person abode Mill St Father forename John Father surname TAYLOR Father occupation Cabman Mother forename Mary
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Birth TAYLOR, MARY (SMALLEY) GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 257
(better get back to newspapers in Library Olive, articles for below lol)
03 January 1879 - Nottinghamshire Guardian - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
FATAL ACCIDENT TO A CABMAN. On Friday, an inquest was held st the Black Lion Inn, Arnold, by Mr. D. W. Heath, the district Coroner, touching the death of John Taylor, who died on the 25th inst...
(mention of wife and four children)
Edits (is something not right here?)
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17 Oct 2017 13:32 |
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living next door to Joseph Harris in 1901 -
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
12, Pine Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
William Walker Head Married Male 31 1870 Coal Miner Tramway Man Under Ground Leicestershire, England Mary Walker Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Doris Walker Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Ada Walker Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Hilda Walker Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Charity Walker Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England >>>>Clara Smalley Boarder Single Female 21 1880 Lace Velvet Spotter Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
14, Pine Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Joseph Harris Head Married Male 42 1859 Gas Stoker Helpringham, Lincolnshire, England Sarah Harris Wife Married Female 45 1856 - Cowbit, Lincolnshire, England >>>>>>Joseph Harris Son Single Male 19 1882 Coal Miner Dayman (Under Ground) Grantham, Lincolnshire, England Miles Harris Son Single Male 15 1886 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Harry Knowles Boarder Married Male 24 1877 Bricklayer's Labourer Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Elizabeth Knowles Boarder Married Female 21 1880 - Grantham, Lincolnshire, England
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17 Oct 2017 13:04 |
Hi Grey Ghost Joseph Harris aged 21 Coal Miner 14 Pine Street Radford father Joseph Harris Gas Stoker Clara Taylor aged 21 Spinster 14 Pine Street Radford father John Taylor Cab Driver Deceaced Marriage Certifacate The Register Office Nottingham 4 th May 1901 In Present of us W Husband and E Sparks
1911 Census Joseph Harris head age 29 living 18 ledger Yard Radford Clara Harris Wife age 29 living 18 Ledger Yard Radford
Violet Harris daughter age 9
Violet Harris Married Frederick R Asher 1921 Nottingham They are on the 1939 Register
As for John Taylor father have no idea as yet From Olive
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17 Oct 2017 13:03 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 36, Clifford Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Mary Taylor Head Widow Female 50 1851 Charwoman Washing Flintham, Nottinghamshire, England
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17 Oct 2017 12:36 |
If correct, then this would mean Clara was not John's daughter if born Q4 1882 (or wrong family!!)
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 27, Bow Street, Nottingham St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Mary Taylor Head Widow Female 30 1851 Maker Up Of Hosiery Flintham, Newark, Notts John Taylor Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Ellen Taylor Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England George Taylor Son Single Male 3 1878 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Mary Taylor Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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17 Oct 2017 12:29 |
Other Taylor/Smalley births
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: TAYLOR, JOHN SMALLEY Order GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 241
TAYLOR, SARAH ANNIE SMALLEY Order GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 259 Order
TAYLOR, NELLIE SMALLEY Order GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 269
TAYLOR, MARY SMALLEY Order GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 257 Order
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17 Oct 2017 12:19 |
?? Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: TAYLOR, CLARA SMALLEY GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 299
TAYLOR, GEORGE SMALL ***** GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 288 **** ? a mistake for Smalley ----------------------------------------------------------
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) JOHN Last name TAYLOR Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1871 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN TAYLOR married one of these people Mary Ann Noddall, Mary Smalley
--------------------------------- Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription
First name(s) John Last name Taylor Marriage year 1871 Marriage date 01 Jun 1871 Marriage place Nottingham Church St Mary Denomination Anglican Spouse's first name(s) Mary Spouse's last name Smalley County Nottinghamshire Country England
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