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Definitely shades of that old thread.
Darn it! Major Langton's name is never provided!

One problem....
Unless there was more than one Major Langton, I think he died in 1819.
If this is the case and William is his son as per the marriage info, then William could not have been born in 1821

James Langton, husband of Mary Marshall does appear to be the son of James Langton and Anne Godsell.
Widow Anne, relict of James Langton (snr) remarried Dr Raymond of Kilrush in 1823

No mention of "Major"

Definitely shades of the Kibble Hervey's et al....!!!!!

Hope John's friend is interested in knowing all this...

I have been looking at the LostLangtons website
http://www.lostlangtons.co.uk/humogen/family/humo_/F789/I2249/

William Langton has been INCLUDED as the son of James Langton and Mary Marshall.
It seems to be assumed that Major Langton and James Langton is the same person but, I have found evidence that suggests otherwise.

Major Langton also had a son named Richard ( some reports say George) Langton who at 1851 was clearly having mental health issues.
I won't go into detail .
This man was 36yrs old at 1851.
He had changed his last name to Marshall and assumed a claim to the Will of an uncle which resulted in a court case with his Aunt, Mrs Mary Langton
The estate was either left by her father or her brother


Mary Langton ( Marshall) was the wife of JAMES Langton

Richard Langton AKA Marshall was the son of deceased Major Langton
Mary Langton ( Marshall) was his Aunt and married to James Langton.

It proves that Major Langton and James Langton was not the same person and this James Langton was still living at 1853 when Bruree Estate was put up for sale
and not noted as deceased on any of the marriage announcements for his daughters, and even not when daughter Marian remarried in 1859

Cork Examiner 20 May 1850
Marriage announcement of Marian Langton, daughter of James Langton

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/48020584

Marion was widowed.

Wexford Independent 26 February 1859
Marriage announcement of Marion EVANS widowed daughter of James Langton ESQ of Bruree Co Limerick to James Craig

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/48020515



Dublin Evening Mail 28 September 1855
Marriage in Australia of 5th daughter, Maria Langton

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/edit/48020667
_________________________________________________________________

EDIT:
NONE of the above, including Dorcas could be William's sibling.
Cousins perhaps?
I FINALLY found what I was looking

Williams father, was the LATE MAJOR LANGTON OF BRUREE and he was already deceased when William married Charlotte Amelia Paisley in 1844

None of the other announcements show their father, James Langton to be deceased

Charlotte was from Co Mayo and the youngest daughter of Rev Henry Paisley

Warder and Dublin Weekly Mail 12 October 1844
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/48020799

Poor John I bet he wishes he never posted !!!



George Bell

Scotland Church Records and Kirk Session Records



Family must have travelled..!! Back in San Francisco by 1860 Census.


Name George Bell
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 17 Mar 1855
Event Place South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland
Father's Name James Bell
Mother's Name Dorcas Langton

Yes! I do remember the Kibble/Hervey stuff.
They were everywhere!

I can see the similarities. LOL

Now starting to locate births from the Hall/Langton marriage in Dublin

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-833-2-2-013

I hope that John's FB friend in Holland has actually asked for info?

GlasgowLass....I did see that...Wms family is becoming more like the Kibble Hervey's (NicolaS) do you remember them ???

I have also found a death in Park View Newry 20.June 1863 of a James Langton late of Bruree ....don't know if it is a Son of James srn.or James himself......will see if I can follow through on that one...

I had a feeling that William Langton was from Gentry.

What on earth do you make of this?
The church records in Dingle contain the birth and baptism of Henrietta Amelia Langton who was born to William & Charlotte
She was born on 29 Aug 1845

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=k-486-2-1-006

Henrietta does not appear on the US census returns but, would have been about 5 or 6 when the family emigrated and would have been around 15 yrs old at the time of the 1860 US census
When she was not on the return, I assumed that she had died.
Apparently not!

This does appear to be her 1864 church marriage... IN DUBLIN !
The notation states she was married by the Registrar in Dec 1863

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-46-3-1-035

Took some digging out but thanks to GlasgowLass' posts above have found William Francis Langton was Christened 27 April 1821 St Michaels Church in the Co Limerick son of James Langton and Ellen (no surname).
Confirmed by following Death Notice.....


Langton William 07/09/1886 Milwaukee, Wisconsin son of late Major Langton, Bruree House, death notice.

Landed Estates Ireland.

•(House) Bruree Lodge - Bruree was the home of the Langton family in the 18th century. The house was occupied by Michael Ryan at the time of Griffith's Valuation and held from Michael Shaughnessy, it was valued at £13+.

You will find more details on the following site relating to Major James Langton and Williams sister Harriet.

http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~townsend/tree/record.php?ref=605

Found this by sheer chance....

1854.
At San Francisco, on the 3d June, James Bell Esq., eldest son of George Bell Esq., Leith, to Dorcas, second daughter of James Langton Esq., of Bruree, county Limerick.

Possible Marriage of Anna

Annie L Langton

mentioned in the record of Theodore B Sheldon and Annie L Langton






Name Theodore B Sheldon
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 01 Jun 1893
Event Place , Lacrosse, Wisconsin, United States
Gender Male
Race White
Birthplace Burnaston, Mass
Father's Name Ijatus Sheldon
Mother's Name Mary T Wheldon
Spouse's Name Annie L Langton
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Race White
Spouse's Birthplace New York City ????
Spouse's Father's Name William Langton
Spouse's Mother's Name Charlotte A Langton

I now know a bit more about William Langton before he emigrated to the US.

There are a number of newspaper articles from 1846 to 1853 in which he is mentioned.

It was a complicated, long winded story called: The Dingle Controversy.

1844, a riot broke out in Dingle, after a Catholic Priest was converted to Protestantism.

( Google: The Dingle Colony Society and it will be found in Google Books)
The link is too long to paste and I dont know how to use tinycurl but an understanding of what went on will help.

However...
William Langton was a very well respected man who worked for The Dingle Colony Society and received a handsome salary. £80-£100 PA
As far as I can tell, he was the Manager or Overseer of Farming, Agriculture and other business interests in Dingle
At this time it was headed by Pastor, Rev Charles Guyer

Rev Guyer was the person accused of paying/ bribing/offering incentives to poor Catholics in the area to convert.

William's name came up a number of times in relation of being the person who was given the task of visiting those who had already "converted" and making their weekly payments.

Some church officials believed that the Society was corrupt and others believed that they were being conned by the Catholic Community who took the money, food etc ( potato famine) but still secretly practised their own faith.
They claimed that not a single Catholic had asked for, or been given any Religious Instruction to convert.

William Langton was only carrying out the work that he was paid to do and does not appear to have played any part in it but, his reputation was clearly tarnished by the whole thing

The story/court case went on for years
.By the time this had ended, William and his family had already moved to the US as mentioned in article dated 1853.
"You may recall the respected gentleman, Mr Langton, who emigrated to America some 3 yrs since"

1848
Address to William from the Converts ( support)
Reply from William
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/folder/contents/1

Found another birth/ baptism by accident that hasn't been indexed.

William Broderick Langton was born in 1851
Therefore the Langton family was still in Dingle at 5 Mar 1851

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/48012813

Look at the entry/ writing that runs along the side of this page.
It's been added later
This child does not appear on any US census and therefore must have died.

You will not believe this...

I cannot locate the emigration data but, ... I DID locate the Langton births in Ireland!

They were from Dingle, Co Kerry

**CLARINA JAMES HENRY LANGTON**
Date of Birth 17 September 1849
Address DINGLE
Father WILLIAM LANGTON
Mother CHARLOTTE EMELIA LANGTON
Further details in the record
Father Occupation GENTLEMAN

James's DOB doesn't exactly match with his death info and it's possible that this one died and another born .

John, this is how to locate them for yourself:

www.irishgenealogy.ie
This site requires that you enter your name (any name) each time you access it
It's a free site with no registration process

Select: Church Records
Enter: Langton

Sort by date or select Kerry COI (Dingle Parish) but there are only a handful of entries to choose from
Scroll down to the correct time period

You will find them and there is also a link to the original church entry.
Other children born to William and Charlotte are there too.

I could post them but, It's more fun locating them for yourself.
You will see that the parent names and the older girls names match up too

All 3 x baptisms in Dingle (COI) between 1845 and 1849

Noticed the following for William and Charlotte Langton, only their youngest 2 children Charlotte 1852!and Luessa 1854 were born in Wisconsin, the others stated as being born in Ireland including son James in 1850 so William and Charlotte must have immigrated after 1850 when James was born. Unless census written down wrongly .Unable to find them leaving Ireland

G lass regard the post John Harold McFarlane and the ref of LDS, my friend had said that Marian mother of her half brother was in the LDS church but left when she was young , so looks like that may tie up with your findings

The death certificate for the child named Miriam Curran is available to view on Family Search.
To view it, you need to create a username and password .
There is no cost to this

The child was born prematurely

May have found the answer to the McFarlane/Romney conundrum

Marian was/is most likey to be a girl born in Salt Lake circa 1922.
She appears in Salt lake at both 1930 and 1940

1930: Cottonwood, Salt Lake

John H Mc Farlane 27
Gertrude E Mc Farlane 26
**Marian Mc Farlane 8
John W Mc Farlane 7
Gwen Mc Farlane 4

1940: Salt Lake

J Herold Mc Farlane 37
Gertrude Mc Farlane 36
**Marian Mc Farlane 18
John Walter Mc Farlane 17
Gwen Mc Farlane 17
Seryl Mc Farlane 9

Mother/Wife on both census is named Gertrude but is this Marian's mother?
Don't think it is......
John Harold Mcfarlane of Salt lake, Utah was married twice but, it doesn't look like polygamy.
( haven't spotted any evidence to show that anyone mentioned in this thread was actually LDS)
It looks like yet another divorce.


1st wife was Eleanor ROMNEY
J. Harold Mcfarlane
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Age: 21
Birth Date: 22 Jul 1899
Birth Place: Salt Lake City
Marriage Date: 4 Sep 1920
Marriage Place: Davis Co., Utah
Father: John C. Mcfarlane
Mother: Alice Liddle
Spouse: ****Eleanor Romney****

According to Findagrave, Eleanor Romney remarried in 1928 and died in 1943

2nd Marriage
John Harold Mcfarlane
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 22
Birth Date: 22 Jul 1902
Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1924
Marriage Place: Salt Lake, Utah, United States
Father: J. C. Mcfarlane
Mother: Alice Liddle
Spouse: Gertrude Ethelwyn Meadows


See what you make of the info..
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=58856

I think that Marian McFarlane bc 1922 was the daughter of Eleanor Romney and possibly used the name Marian Romney McFarlane

I would just like to say at this point, how grateful I am for all your help, I could never have done it without you, only on Ancestry Uk but not on their world wide. Do go on Family Search but can't find anything to the depth you have gone in to. Thanks so much

I have just contacted my friend in Holland regarding her half brother and his name is Julian Curran b 1944 Berkley CA ( she thinks) father Kenneth Curran and Marian Romney but I see on here that the marriage of Kenneth Curran was to a Marian McFarlane 13th March 1943 in Tulsa Oklahoma, perhaps a 2nd marriage for her and maiden name was Romney. Marian came from Utah.

Thanks Maddie, for finding the additional info on the Langtons