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Unless a record is found on passage to America for William and Charlotte Langton with their children it is unsure if Henrietta was with them, she certainly wasn't with them on the 1860 census in Milwaukee Wisconsin, By that time if born in 1845 she would have been 15 in 1860, married in 1864 and I see stated as being a minor. Could there be any passages for her anywhere? .Anne Raymond could possibly be the daughter of Dr Raymond. Gosh this all so intriguing

I know we go too fast but lets recap...

I'm not certain if that 1821 is this William's baptism record or not.
If it is, his mother's name has definitely been mis-transcribed.
His mother was called Anne or Anna

The baptism record identified certainly isn't a catholic one
I checked the baptism date on St Michaels RC records just to be sure,
It's not there which means that the baptism was elsewhere in St Michaels Parish The Parish Record isn't online anywhere to check the exact entry and wording


William Langton was born circa 1821.
He was a son, born to the 2nd marriage of Major James Langton and Anne?

Major Langton and his parents before, were LANDED GENTRY and the owners of the Bruree Estate, Limerick

Williams father (the Major) was 1st married in 1797 to a Miss Marshall and had 3 children named James, Isabella and Richard
Hs first wife died sometime around 1815 ish.

William's father then remarried "Anne" around 1816-18
William and his sister Adelaide came from this marrige


William's father ( The Major) died in Sep 1821
His mother remarried Dr Raymond in Sep1823

William married Charlotte Amelia Paisley in 1844 and later moved to US where his info was picked up.

James Langton Esq of Bruree mentioned on his daughter's marriages that are found in my keepsake turns out to be was William's eldest, half brother.
Other researchers clearly never located the 1821 death and assumed he was Major James Langton..
Every Langton marriage found so far, including William's own involved other wealthy or Landed Gentry families.

Wililam's own wife, Charlotte Amelia Paisley was no exception

No doubt about it... Henrietta Langton was thee daughter od William and Charlotte.

I dont think she was left behind in Ireland.
The more likely scenario is that she emigrated with them as a young child but returned as a young adult.
We may never know the real answer to that one.

Gentryfolk are hard to follow at the best of times!

The witness to Henrietta's marriage was someone named Anne Raymond.

This Anne may or not be Henriett'a grandmother, but remember her grandmother would most likely still be a young woman when she remarried DR Raymond in 1823.
( Anne Langton was the Major's 2nd wife. 2nd wives were often much younger than the 1st!)

It's possible that witness Anne Raymond was a child from Anne's 1823 marriage.

Was the witness to Henrietta's 1864 marriage, William's own mother or potentially his younger half sister?
Could be another relative altogether

Just re, read all your notes and Anna Raymond looks like the grandmother of Henrietta not Aunt, that's if Henrietta is the daughter of William Langton in America. Could the Ellen mother of this William really be Anna,who knows especially having a daughter Anna

Do you think that Henrietta Amelia Langton b. 29 th August 1845 was the daughter of William and Charlotte Langton who emigrated to America. If she was then for some reason left behind in Ireland at the age of 5 yrs old possibly with an Aunt name of Ann Raymond

Hi, Just tuned in. Want to run this through you. This William Langton that went to America after his son James was born approx 1850 , do you think it's the same William of the Langtons of Bruree ? Having found a William christened on 27th April 1821 in Limerick with Parents James and ELLEN Langton and on the death of William Langton in America, it gave his BIRTH as 19th April 1821 which would be most probably correct, christened a few days after birth. You have mentioned so many wife names but Ellen is not one of them. William on a census states he was a farmer so he most probably had money to set up a farm, plus his son James b 1850 Ireland owned The Langton Lime and Cement company, so obviously he had money, he was the father of Inez Langton, grandmother of my friend in Holland.

Wooo...

Remember that William's daughter Henrietta married in Dublin in 1864.?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/48077814


Look at the witnesses.
*Anne Raymond* was the witness for the bride.
Possibly her grandmother or perhaps an aunt

Major James Langton IS the man who died 23 Jul 1821 in Limerick

His Mlitary details match up with the man who married Miss Marshall in 1797
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/4807458
Dont know when Miss Marshall died but...
Major Langton and "Anne" would have married around 1816-1819 ?

I do know that Richard from the 1st marriage was born circa 1814 and was a Ward of The Chancery from early childhood.
(He was orphaned in 1821 by the death of his father)


I take it back re William's birth...
If the birth date on William's death is correct, he was born just before his father died in 1821
Anna Langton relict of James Langton of Bruree remarried Dr Raymond of Kilrush in Sep 1823

I am now certain that this is William's mother, 2nd wife of Major James Langton

Of course, William also had a daughter named Anna.


Therefore 1797 marriage of the Major with Miss Marshall is the 1st marriage.

His 2nd marriage to "Anna" would be have been around 1816-1819 ?

William and Adelaide's parents were Major James and Anna

I have also found that James Langton son of the Major with Miss Marshall married Dorcas Harte on Tuesday 2 Aug 1823 at Croom.
Is it coincidence that his stepmother re married just a few weeks later?
He could not be older than 26yrs of age at this time.
As the eldest son, he would have inherited his father's estate


All the Langton marriages that were located for the daughters of James Langton ESQ of Bruree were children of James and Dorcas
As I suspected, the Lost Langton Website has confused father ( Major James) with son James Langton Esq

GlasgowLass ...Hope you enjoyed your night out...!!

I am like a dog with a bone on this one even if its all a waste of time...
What I have uncovered so far and lends itself to what you have found but with may twists and turns....

1. Not sure the Baptism of Wm Francis I posted is William...I should have checked but didn't...St Micheals Limerick is RC.

2.Found a Death for a Major James Langton Sth. Cork Mil.at his lodgings in Thomas Street Limerick Wed.21st July 1821. No other details except Deeply regretted etc.

3.Adelaide who married Francis Crosbie (M'Donnell.)..well the McDonnell was "adopted" by Francis as a condition of his inheritance of the McDonnell Land Holdings in Co Mayo ...he was insovent by the 1840s/50s

4.Adelaide ... there appears to be a ? son of hers living in Liverpool from the 1860s Jas. Langton Crosbie M'Donnell...has to belong to the same family with names like that...(his son also named the same....)
Didn't know what I was reading half the time...

Im finally getting somewhere.

Williams' father was Major James Langton who was married twice
As yet I cannot clarify the two wives names.


Children from the 1st marriage were:
James, RICHARD and Isabella.

Is this the 1st or 2nd marriage?

1797:
On Sunday last, James LANGTON, Esq; Captain in the South Cork Regiment of Militia, to Miss MARSHALL, daughter of the late William MARSHALL, of Drinadaly, Co. Meath, Esq;

Children from 2nd marriage were:
William and Adelaide

Info comes from the 1851 commission report on the insanity of Richard Langton who assumed the last name of Marshall.

Richard had been in a lunatic asylum since 1843 and had been visited there by half siblings, Williams and Adelaide during the first 3 days

He was due to substantially inherit from an uncle's ( Marshall) Will but his sanity was in question and deemed incapable of running his own personal affairs.

This leads me to believe that his mother was the "Miss" Marshall who married in 1797
If I am correct, Richard inherited from the estate of John Marshall , Wicklow Estate who was his mother's brother

Mrs Mary Langton, aunt mentioned in this article is not therefore the Mary Marshall that I originally thought.




One of the witnesses was called Adam Newman who states he was a first cousin and explained Major Langton had married twice and children named William and Adlaide were from their father's 2nd marriage

I am certain that Major Langton died in 1819, probably in France
He owned the Bruree Estate

Richard was born circa 1815
James of Bruree must be the older brother as he will have inherited this estate

We already know that half sister Adelaide was born circa 1819
I'm still to be convinced that William was born in 1821.
I feel that his birth/baptism was created from the info contained on his death record

1901 census Dublin shows Adelaide Enright widow 81yrs.living Carysfort Ave Blackrock with her Daughter in Law Louisa McDonnell (widow) and her children.
Adelaide states she was born in France.

Death 1910 Dublin..widow of Brewer.

John....That is the million dollar question at the moment...!!!
Don't pay heed to your not being able to think so quickly..(age is just a number)..I need to keep going back to see what direction we are a going in...

So far we cannot determine exactly the Christian name of Major Langton from a Primary Source...it appears to be James....see Wms. Baptism and Adelaide's 2nd marriage but at this moment..just don't know...

Glasgolass and Eringobragh. Here are the questions storing up for you when you come back on here. When you are referring to James Langton of Bruree , is that the father of William who went to America or a brother of William. Things moving so quickly, can't believe how much has been found. Will just have to print all this off and settle down to digest it all. I'm almost 80 so the old mind doesn't think so quickly.

Thanks for the help, enjoy your nights off, cheers

I am done too cannot find marriage in Dublin Records for Adelaide...!!!
Enjoy your evening..
I will be off tomorrow night to enjoy St Patricks night .

Eringobragh,

This is what I think.

James Langton of Bruree was married to Dorcas Harte and all those Marriages that we found actually relate to THEIR children.

I had a gut feeling about it when I found the 1851 info on the "insane" man named Richard or George Langton Marshall

He was also the son of Major Langton and his aunt ( by marriage) was named as Mary Langton or Marshall but she did not live at Bruree at 1851.

Alarm bells sounded at that point.
Mary Marshall's husband wil no doubt be the brother of James at Bruree and probably also to William and Adelaide's father but, so far, no other first name has been found so they have all been joined up to make one person... James Langton of Bruree


I am done for the day as I have a dinner date with OH and then...
Cirque Du Soleil at Glasgow Hydro . Woo Hoo

There was also a daughter named Adelaide born to Major Langton she married into the McDonnell's of Co Mayo....Husbands name Francis son of Randall...Cant clarify date....but she was a widow when she remarried in Dublin 1864...


Adelaide Crosbie Mcdonnell Or Langton

mentioned in the record of George Enright and Adelaide Crosbie Mcdonnell Or Langton


Don't know where the Crosbie comes from...!!



Name George Enright
Spouse's Name Adelaide Crosbie Mcdonnell Or Langton
Event Date 22 Oct 1864
Event Place Dublin South, Dub, Ireland
Father's Name John Enright
Spouse's Father's Name James Langton
Marital Status Widowed
Spouse's Marital Status Widowed

Dorcas Harte daughter of Johnson Harte Coolross...she died at Park View Newry
(Into the landed gentry again !!)

John, any baptismal info that I found for William has actually been produced using the information provided on his death record.
Information found on a death record is only as good as the informant's knowledge

I found no evidence of an actual birth/baptism record

I am getting quite confused about the Langtons.
The Estate at Bruree was sold in 1853

I foundma matching death for a James Langton, late of Bruree
He died in Newry, Co Down 1863 but, I can't find how old he was

Here's the rub...
I had already across the death announcement for this man's wife.
Her name was NOT Mary Marshall. Her name was Dorcas ( cant remember now) but it also and listed her late father's name
I am trying to locate that again but I do think that generations are all mixed up on the Lost Langtons site

Everyone does seem to be descended from James Langton and Anne Godsell who were the original owners of Bruree Estate

There was a deed of settlement for the land dated 6 Apt 1764 and was executed on the marriage of James Langton and Anna Godsell

So we now have:
James Langton and Anna Godsell
James Langton and Mary Marshall
James Langton and Dorcas ? ( will find it again)

I now have to sort the Curran family out. Glasgow lass. I notice you found a marriage for Robert D Curran to Inez Langton and it states Robert D Curran was from Long Beach California, that's all about I know of him.
More help appreciated, I went on Ancestry but it is asking for a World wide subscription from me

Oh my, just seems like a puzzle. I have looked up in the Ireland
records and actually found a christening for a William Langton, 27th April 1821 St Michaels Limerick parents James and Ellen. Then I found a christening for a Clarina James Henry Langton parents William and Charlotte Amelia Langton b 17 Sept 1849 christened 4 Nov 1849 Dingle, Kerry Poor James fancy having a first name of Clarina. Found Helena Georgina Langton christened 30 Feb 1848. parents William and Charlotte A, in Dingle kerry, then a Henrietta A b 29th Aug 1848 d 29th Aug 1848. Well this certainly looks like the Langton family, so James was born in Ireland and the family immigrated after his birth the 2 other daughter being born in America . In 1860 census James and Helena listed as their children. On the death of William Langton it states his birth as18th April 1821 so that ties up with his christening of 27th April 1821.