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You have both been brilliant, thank you so much for giving up your precious time to help me, you have certainly made my head whirl but I think I more or less have come to grips with it all. Regarding Maj James Langton, he must have gone to fight in France rather than originate

John
Major Jas. Langton Sth Cork Militia died in Thomas St Limerick...but yes if Adelaide's place of Birth (France) is correct then yes he must have fought there. or been visiting..


GlassgowLass.....Look at what I found when looking at Marshall Marriages..Directly above the one for James Langton and Margaret Marshall.....

1824...

On the 16th of June last, at the Mauritius, Major Marshall of the 82nd Regiment, to Mary, daughter of James Hervey, Esq. of Ardwick Green, Manchester.

How strange it that.....????

Apologies. I cant get access to my PC tonight.
Daughter has software package on it and needs to use it.


Cant believe that you stumbled upon those Herveys again.
That is such a weird coincidence but at least you found that Miss Marshall was Margaret
Not the same Marshall family I presume?
That would be beyond weird!

John will be wondering what on earth we are talking about.!

James Langton Crosbie McDonnell.
1864 marriage index suggest he married Sarah Ann WELCH

Can't yet locate family at 1871 but children and their baptisms etc all match

1881:Poulton cum Seacombe County/Island: Cheshire

James L.C. McDonald 37
Sarah A. McDonald 34
Hilda C. McDonald 15
Elizabeth C. McDonald 14
Adelaide M. McDonald 5
James L.C. McDonald 3
William R. McDonald 2


1891: Tranmere, Cheshire\

James C Macdonell 48
Sarah C Macdonell 45
Adelaide Macdonell 15
James L Macdonell 13
William R Macdonell 11
Mary W Macdonell 9
Pierce Macdonell 6
Gertrude F Macdonell 4

1901: Liverpool
James H McDonnell 56
Sarah A McDonnell 54
William R C McDonnell 21
Pierce C McDonnell 16
Hilda C McDonnell 35
Adelaide M McDonnell 25
May W McDonnell 19
Gertrude F McDonnell 14
Mary Christian 37

Presume it's another case you two have been on ,Sherlock and Holmes lol. I more or less understand it all. Printed it all out so can arrange everyone in families. I find it much easier to work on the UK look ups

John,
As you have an Ancestry acct, you can create a tree for your friend with all the info.
I would advise that you go into "settings" and make it private and unsearchable to others.
We can help.

Yes, it was another case where were entered into another similar family.
That was was so complicated as it started out in Scotland, children married and moved all around the world. It ended in England!

It certainly is a fantastic hobby , never know what you will find. I found that our neighbours ex husband turned out to be a second cousin of our son in law, they lived next door to each as well and never knew

I know you found nothing for Robert D Curran but is there a site that I can go on to for New York births and marriages. Just looked on the marriage certificate for Robert and Inez Langton in California and it states he was born 1882 New York, a 2nd marriage and been a widower for 3 yrs. Unable to find his father Andrew B Curran and wife M E Pettijohn both from New York, Surely this family is registered somewhere. Obviously Robert must have gone down to live in California at some time possibly during his 1st marriage. ,unable to find a marriage for him either in California or New York, unless he went down to California with parents, unable to find a death for them all. Seems a dead end with them and my friend so wanted to find her Curran roots, but must say is in awe with your findings on the Langtons

John,
I am starting to get somewhere with the parents of Robert Currie.

I think I found them in Syracuse, NY at 1928.
His mother is listed on a Directory as "Bessie M Curran"
As her initials on Roberts marriage were E.M, So I'll hazzard a guess that her name was Elizabeth.

The best way for me to do this was to simply create a tree, fill in all the info from US records and work backwards from there.
So far, his parents appear to be. .... IRISH!

Erm... Perhaps not the correct couple after all?



I will get back to you as soon as I figure them out

I'm being driven nuts.
Can't find anything positive on the Currans so I went back to the Langtons in Wisconson.
The family is definitely in Milwaulkee at 1860
No trace at 1870.

Daughter Louisa from the 1860 census died in Wisconson in 1873. It says age 12 ( Scarlet Fever) ?
What is odd is that on Directories on 1868 to 1874, father William and 2 daughters, Anna and Helena only are listed at the family home.
There is no sign of wife/mother Charlotte Amelia but Oddly, she ad daughter Annie are both listed at this same address from 1888 onwards?
Where was she between 1868 and 1888?

NO trace of parents at 1880 but son James and 2 Daughters, including Helena are all found, unmarried and living together in....Kansas.!
I didn't recognise the name of the youngest sister. See below..

I then located the Will for William who died in 1886.
He made his Will in 1882 and named his wife Charlotte as his executor but I don't fully understand the petition made by his widow, Charlotte because, it was dated 1892?? 6yrs after he died?

However, she listed all 5 living children.
at 1892 she confirms
Daughter Henrietta Hall ives in Dublin
Son, James lives in Utah
Annie is unmarried and lives in Milwaulkee
Daughter Helena, married name WALKER, lives in UTAH
Daughter, EVA married name either OFFLEY or OTTLEY lives in Texas.

8yr old Charlotte from the 1860 census is not mentioned
At 1880 Eva was in the Kansas household and was 20yrs old. Born Circa 1860

Helena married William Walker in St Louis, Missouri in 1885
They appear on census returns in Utah at 1900 and 1910.( no apparent children)
By 1940 Helena is a widow living in LA where she died in 1946.
Place of births are given as Ireland, New York and Illinois.
Is it any wonder we could't find her?

Eva is rather elusive at the moment.

John and Eringobragh.
Oh My Word!

Look at what I found.( on a public tree)
Isabella Langton, the elusive, elder, half sister of William Langton.

John, you felt sorry for James because a first name was Clarina
Well, now you know why !


I also knew we would enter into the realms of Major Gore Langton

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/48200410

Got to the bottom of the 1851 commission Report into "Richard" Langton Marshall

One or two newspapers did indeed refer to him as George rather than Richard.
Was sent back to the Asylum

I have just located the Will of... bachelor, GEORGE Amos Langton Marshall, formerly from Dublin but latterly in England

He died in Southampton in 1873 ( birth 1813) and left his estate to his half sister, Adelaide Enright

On the 1851 report Cousin, Adam Newman stated only 3 children from Major Langton's 1st marriage.

I guess that George and Richard is the same person and the report stating his name as Richard was an error

He is in London at 1871.
Boarder at a place that I cannot read but his Occupation is : Landed Gentry.
Can you read the name of the establishment? Is this a private hospital or nursing home?

Well I am absolutely weary with this family...!!! It goes on and on with so many twists and turns....
I don't have Ancestry/FMD so cant see where George was living 1871 other than in St Pancras...can you put Census into Keepsafe....????

This is what I have uncovered since yesterday.......

Sisters Ann and Catherine Raymond b Co Kerry were living in Dublin 1901/1911.They were in their 70s and 80s....both spinsters and of Independent means...Land and Property...They both died in Dublin Ann before Catherine....

Could this be the Anne who was witness on the MC for Henrietta 1864....??

I wondered over the "pond" to see if I could find out the Anne L Langton's middle name

Well it uncovered nothing relating to that but it did uncovered the following ...

Anne L Langton did marry Theodore Barnard Sheldon he died in 1900..aged 80yrs.
Charlotte Amelia Langton widow of Wm .was living with Anne in Red Wing Minnesota 1900
Charlotte is actually recorded as dying in Red Wing 1904 so she must have gone back to Wisconsin to be buried...that wouldn't have been a problem if you read about Theodore B Sheldon...!!

http://www.mnopedia.org/structure/tb-sheldon-memorial-auditorium-red-wing

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=91731570.

He is actually buried with his first wife Mary

Lots about him plus photo on the web for Red Wing Goodhue Minnisota

Anne L Langton Sheldon died Red Wing in either 1907/1909..its confusing as I can find a death for 1909 but a Probate for 1907..!!!
There were no children from her marriage and l the 5 children from Theo's first marriage had already died

Cannot find her Obit or Burial...

Came back over the water as Charlotte Amelia's death in 1904 showed her place of birth to be England !!!
Father Rev Henry Pasley mother Mary no maiden name....

Well using Pasley not Paisley found a marriage for her sister Mary...

1833 1 09 CARTER Sampson Esq jun In Turlough church, Sampson CARTER, jun, Esq son of Maj CARTER of Tipperary to Mary daughter of the Rev Henry PASLEY, rector of Ballyhane, co Mayo

They went on to have a number children but Mary died 1850.

1850 12 12 CARTER Sampson jun Esq December 9, at Castleview, near Kilkenny, Mary, wife of Sampson CARTER jun Esq
Sampson Carter jnr. was a Civil Engineer and Surveyor

Mary died after giving birth to a stillborn child following a long protracted labour .
She left 6 children

1850 April 10th. BALLINA CHRONICLE


In Castlebar, on Monday morning at the advanced age of 85 years, the Rev. Henry Pasley, Rector of Ballyheane. The Rev. Gentleman is deeply and truly mourned by his afflicted family and all who were privileged with his friendship.

Death and history of Sampson Carter jnr.

http://www.dia.ie/architects/view/377/CARTER-SAMSON

Good find Eringobragh,

I figured out the 1871 census in St Pancras for George AL Marshall

It says: Fiztroy Mansion, 90, 92 & 94 Charlotte Street
2 pages of individuals living over 2 separate properties
It looks like an elite boarding house

Eringobragh,
I located the Will of Annie Sheldon who died in 1909.
She sure had a fortune to bequeath and says her sister's name is EDWARDINA OFFLEY.
Since discovered her name was Edwardina Broderick Langton and married Edward H Offley .
Known as Ena rather than Eva

Almost every member of Annie's family including siblings, brothers in law, sister in law, nieces and nephews in the US and Ireland was included in her will.

They received between $5000 & $8000 dollars EACH, with smaller amounts to unrecognised indivuduals


Edward H Offley died in 1927 and Edwardina died in LA in 1942

GlasgowLass...I didn't know about an Eva..???
I did note on the "immigration year" for Charlotte she has 1856 but that still didn't help in locating their passage to the states.
Where did you find Anne's Will....?

Found Annie's Will on Ancestry. which is also where I found the info relating to her father's will and the daughter named Eva.
Eva turned out to be Ena which is short for Edwardena

The amounts that Annie bequeathed was only the cash.
She had a wealth of jewellery and fine heirlooms to be handed out too.
Most of that was to go to Birdie, Inez and Irene Langton

She asked for her homestead to be sold and the proceeds to be divided equally among her siblings and their spouses

Sorry Glasgowlass and Erinobragh for not answering but have been unable to get on line. Well you have certainly found so much more between you and I am so thankful.Our friend in Holland has managed to get a photo of James Langton when he was in The Adobe Wall Battle which she is so pleased to see a face of her Langton ancestry. We are going to Holland in 3 weeks time so I will have to sit down with her and try and sort all this out. The mind certainly boggles so I know how you both must feel.