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Derek

Derek Report 17 Feb 2017 11:22

Alexander Christie married Jane Adelaide Wheddon in 1856 and William is on the wedding certificate as the father of Alexander and a Master Mariner.

Have found a William Christie a mariner on a 1851 census and wife is stated as Margaret Christie aged 63 and William aged 61 possibly Alexander's father?

Cannot find a birth record for Alexander who was 26 when married to Jane, only found a birth of an Alexander in 1831 to parents William Christie and Christina Rollo? Possible parents?

William was possibly born around 1795 though this could be inaccurate.

Any help would be much appreciated,

Many Thanks,

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Feb 2017 11:34

Have you found Alexander and Jane on the 1861 census to confirm his age and birthplace please?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Feb 2017 11:36

This record shpws his age as 26:

Alexander Christie

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Alexander Christie
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Age: 26
Spouse: Jane Adelaide Wheddon
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Nov 1856
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Christie
Register Type: Parish Register

Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Feb 2017 11:36

For ref

London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921



Name: Alexander Christie
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Age: 26
Spouse: Jane Adelaide Wheddon
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Nov 1856
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Christie
Register Type: Parish Register

Andy

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Feb 2017 11:40

You might find a baptism but not a birth record if his declared age is correct. English civil registration didn't start until 1837.

As his father was a Mariner, it's always possible that he was away on previous census days.

Derek

Derek Report 17 Feb 2017 11:41

Andrew and Margaret thank you I have that information.

rootgatherer no I haven't found them on that census :-)

Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Feb 2017 11:45

For ref Jane married before

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1848 (>99%)

Summers Jane Adelaide Newington 4 387
WHEDDON Francis Newington 4 387

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Feb 2017 11:46

A child

CHRISTIE, HENRY ALEXANDER SUMMERS Order
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 01C Page 457

Andy

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Feb 2017 11:48

Jane is not with Alexander in 1861:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10, Parkers Buildings, Bermondsey, London, England

Jane A Christy Head Married Female 29 1832 ... Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Francis Christy Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Jane A Christy Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Henry A Christy Son - Male 3 1858 Scholar Middlesex, England
Ann M Christy Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Feb 2017 11:54

Jane Adelaide was a widow at her marriage to Alexander. This looks like her first marriage:

Francis Wheddon

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Francis Wheddon
Spouse: Jane Adelaide Summers
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 May 1848
Parish: St Mary, Newington
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Francis Wheddon
Spouse Father: John Summers
Register Type: Parish Register

Potty

Potty Report 17 Feb 2017 12:16

3 baptisms for Alexander & Jane's c hildren, on same day. Alexander's occupation given as Mariner.


Name:Henry Alexander Christie
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:14 Aug 1863
Father's name:Alexander Christie
Mother's name:Jane Adelaide Christie
Parish or Poor Law Union:Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough:Southwark
Register Type:Parish Registers

Also Jane and Ann Maria on same day.

Potty

Potty Report 17 Feb 2017 12:17

Henry's marriage, father Alexander Christie, Engineer, deceased.

Name:Henry Alexander Christie
Estimated birth year:abt 1861
Age:40
Spouse: Matilda Elizabeth Emmett
Spouse Age:26
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:2 Mar 1901
Parish:St Crispin, Bermondsey
Borough:Southwark
Father Name:Alexander Christie
Spouse Father:George Emmett
Register Type:Parish Register

Potty

Potty Report 17 Feb 2017 12:23

Daughter Jane's marriage has him as Alexander William, Fireman


Name:
Jane Addaide Christie

Spouse:
Arthur Lacey

Record Type:
Marriage

Event Date:
4 Nov 1875

Parish:
St Mary Magdalene, Southwark

Borough:
Southwark

Father Name:
Alexander William Christie

Spouse Father:
Robert Lacey

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Feb 2017 12:29

Sometimes things Christie, can be Christy also, with surname variants...

Chris :)

(below for past reference)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1364482?d=desc

Edits (Fireman?, sounds like should be something Naval about)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Feb 2017 13:00

Potty- this is first marriage for Henry (son of Alexander) - it's confusing as he was a bit of bad boy:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1364482?page=0

Marraige:
Name: Henry Alexander Christie (Carman)
Spouse: Elizabeth Ann Tunstall
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Dec 1875
Parish: St George, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Alexander Christie (Stoker)
Spouse Father: John Pain Tunstall (Commercial traveller)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Francis James Wheddon & Jane Lacey

malyon

malyon Report 17 Feb 2017 13:21

Alexander Christie
United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records
Name
Alexander Christie
Event Type
Military Service
Event Year Range
1853-1857
Event Place
United Kingdom
Birthplace
Durham
Birth Year
1829

malyon

malyon Report 17 Feb 2017 13:24

England and Wales Census, 1851
Name
Alexander Christie
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1851
Event Place
, Durham, England
Registration District
Sunderland
Residence Note
Wear Street
Gender
Male
Age
22
Marital Status
Married
Occupation
Ship Wright
Relationship to Head of Household
Head
Birth Year (Estimated)
1829
Birthplace
, Durham
Page Number
15
Registration Number
HO107
Piece/Folio
2398 / 371
Affiliate Record Type
Household
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Alexander Christie
Head
M
22
, Durham
Jane Christie
Wife
F
21
, Durham
Sarah Christie
Daughter
F
1
, Durham
Margret Bulmer

F
10
, Durham
Jane Christie
Daughter
F
0
, Durham

Derek

Derek Report 17 Feb 2017 13:40

Alexander was a Fireman in 1856 when he married Jane in Stepney and his father William was a Master Mariner.

Thank you to all the comments and information so far :-)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Feb 2017 14:00

Derek I presume occupation fireman to be a stoker either on board ship or on locomotives.

malyon

malyon Report 17 Feb 2017 14:05

could be alexander and jane were not yet married in 1851 census he was 22yrs and would have been 26yrs in 1856 when he married jane