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MISSING RELATIVE - CHARLES MARTIN (TYNEMOUTH)

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greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Feb 2017 16:42

The 3 deaths - John Philip and William's ages will be in months - GRO haven't as yet sorted a way to distinguish between years and months on their website. It's a relatively new site, which gives mothers maiden names pre 1911, the commercial sites don't, and also ages at death pre when the commercial sites give them

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.aspDeaths

Name: Age at Death (in years):
MARTIN, JOHN PHILIP HENRY 12 Order
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 140

MARTIN, WILLIAM WALLACE 4 Order
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 159

MARTIN, PHILIP HENRY 6 Order
GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 116

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Feb 2017 16:36

?? - a variation of the Hamell name ?
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MARTIN, CHARLES WILLIAM HANNHELL Order
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 232

Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:

MARTIN, JOHN PHILIP HENRY HAMMELL Order
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 222

MARTIN, WILLIAM WALLACE HAMMEL Order
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 243

MARTIN, WILLIAM HAMMILL Order
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 280

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Feb 2017 16:35

If him below...

Chris :)

MARTIN, WILLIAM (HAMMILL)
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 280


22 June 1918 - Shields Daily News - Tynemouth, Tyne and Wear, England

Youth's Sad Death in Tynemouth Infirmary.
An inquest was held last night at the Town Hall, North Shields, by Mr P. Dodds, Deputy Coroner, on William Martin, aged 16, rivet catcher, employed Smith’s Dock, and residing with his parents 39 Dockwray Square, who died in the infirmary. Mary Ellen Martin, his mother said he was injured at work in 1916 and had been receiving compensation.

(some men were lowering a tire into the hold, when it fell about 40 feet through the rope breaking. Martin who was below, was struck on the head.
The jury found that the cause of death was shock following an operation of bone grafting for a fracture of the skull accidentally caused while following his employment, and that the chloroform had been properly ministered.


Deaths Jun 1918 (>99%)
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Martin William 16 Tynemouth 10b 299

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Feb 2017 16:34

A copy of the marriage cert will hopefully give you information regarding his father.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Feb 2017 16:28

Ah yet another spelling of her surname

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Feb 2017 16:25

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)
Allerton James Tynemouth 10b 329
HAMEL Mary Ellen Tynemouth 10b 329
HARDY Margaret Tynemouth 10b 329
Martin Charles Tynemouth 10b 329

Maddie

Maddie Report 8 Feb 2017 16:23

for info

age
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary E Martin Wife Married Female 29 1872 - North Shields, Northumberland, England
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Charles W Martin Son Single Male 7 1894 - North Shields, Northumberland, England
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Peter Martin Son Single Male 3 1898 - North Shields, Northumberland, England
Transcription
Philip H Martin Son Single Male 0 1901 - North Shields, Northumberland, England


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Martin Household (2 People) 30 Sibthorpe Street , Tynemouth C.B., Northumberland, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Mary E Martin 25 Apr 1871 Female Unpaid Household Duties Widowed 85 1
Edward W Martin 06 May 1910 Male House & Ship Painter Single 85 2

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Feb 2017 16:20

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
32, Union Street, North Shields, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary E Martin Wife Married Female 29 1872 - North Shields, Northumberland, England
Charles W Martin Son Single Male 7 1894 - North Shields, Northumberland, England
Peter Martin Son Single Male 3 1898 - North Shields, Northumberland, England
Philip H Martin Son Single Male 0 1901 - North Shields, Northumberland, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Feb 2017 16:18

Not picking up a marriagee though for Charles Martin to Hammel

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Feb 2017 16:17

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Rosella House Albion Road North Shields, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Mary Ellen Martin Wife Married Female Private Means 39 1872 North Shields Northumberland
Peter Martin Son - Male School 13 1898 North Shields Northumberland
William Martin Son - Male School 8 1903 North Shields Northumberland
Francis Septimus Martin Son - Male School 7 1904 North Shields Northumberland
Edward Walter Martin Son - Male - 0 1911 North Shields Northumberland

Mary Ellen says that she has been married 18 years and has had 8 children, 5 of whom are still living and 3 have died. It has been scored through by the enumerator, perhaps she said she was already on her own?
Edward is 10 months old.

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Feb 2017 16:11

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MARTIN, FRANCIS SEPTIMUS HAMMELL Order
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 255

MARTIN, PETER HAMMEL Order
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 258

MARTIN, EDWARD WALTER HAMMILL Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 258

MARTIN, PHILIP HENRY HAMILL Order
GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 245

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Feb 2017 16:03

?? Sep Qtr registration would cover a July birth.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MARTIN, CHARLES SCORER Order
GRO Reference: 1874 S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 202

Kala

Kala Report 8 Feb 2017 15:58

I'm looking to see if anyone can help me find ANY info at all on my great great grandfather, Charles Martin. No one in the family knows much about him, apart from his name.

Story goes that he jumped ship in Austrailia and never returned, leaving his wife at home with 8 children, at some point 3 of the boys went away to look for him and never return. As far as i know she never remarried but I wouldn't rule it out. His wife was Mary Ellen (Hammell I think) and some of their children were Peter (1897-1968), Francis Septimus, Edward Walter (I was always told that he was called Edward Octavious but as far as i can see he was Edward Walter and Phillip. The family was from Tynemouth.

I'm struggling to even find a birth record for Charles and he is not on any census with Mary Ellen.

The husband of my great aunty (charles' grand daughter) wrote a book about his family history and in passing mention Charles and the mystery surrounding him - he listed his d.o.b as July 1874, how accurate this is I don't know.