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I think you are right. I think I may have to order a certificate for one of his siblings and hope that the info on there can help such as address at birth clutching at straws now!!
I am trying to establish if this is the James who married Emma Wallis who was the son of Henry Clark and Caroline.

Many thanks JpK

I just think he wasn't registered.

There was a thread recently and they had about 8 children most of whom were baptised and only two of whom were registered! And these were after it was mandatory to register as well!

Jude

Hi Jude, found the certificate thankyou. As you say record for Henry but nothing for James. So frustrating!!

JpK

So here's Henry

CLARK, HENRY PAGET Order
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT Volume 02 Page 414 Order


But there's nothing for James....

Jude

Hi Chris I do have Henry born 1844 James born 1848 was also inWhite Bear gardens. Henry is not in 1851 census but James is along with John probably the illegitimate son of Caroline.

JpK

Go to Search All Records

Enter Caroline Paget Lived in London

Select Births Marriages Deaths, then All London England Church of EngLand Marriages and Banns 1754 - 1921

It's the first one that comes up

Jude

Hi Jude I do have Ancestry but can't find marriage certificate.

Do you have access to Ancestry (guessing so from your response)

Jude

Did you see the other Baptism?...1844 Henry (White Bear Gardens) Born 12 July 1844...(Father occ. Hawker)

CLARK, HENRY (PAGET)
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT Volume 02 Page 414

Chris :)

Thanks Chris I will have a look.

Hi Jude no I don't have the marriage certificate I will have a look thanks. pK

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=9011;area=showposts;start=0

(somebody had Clarke/Paget on above)

Chris :)

Andy looks to be correct...not registered

Do you have the marriage certificate? It is on Ancestry

Jude

Hi Jude Andrew has the right family.

Hi Andrew yes this is my James thanks for your help.
JPK

Is this your James?

Name: James Clarke
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 Feb 1848
Father's name: Henry Clarke
Mother's name: Caroline Clarke
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers


Parents marriage?

Name: Henry Clark
Spouse: Caroline Paget
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 May 1844
Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Clark
Spouse Father: Matthew Paget
Register Type: Parish Register

Andy

It's not that September quarter...mmn Hughes

From the baptism what were mother and father's christian names?

Jude

There is no James Clark(e) MMN Paget in the records. So looks like your birth wasn't registered.

Andy

Hi Jude thanks for your reply.

Baby's name is James Clark born London, mother's maiden name is Paget. Clark could be with or without an e.
JpK

Nowadays it is 42 days (or at least it was when I registered my children). But in 1848 registration was not mandatory. It was made compulsory in 1875

So I guess it is possible it wasn't registered at all or, possible it was registered very late

What are the baby's name and the mother's maiden name?

Jude