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24 Jan 2017 15:23 |
I would like to know more about him as he was my great grandfather. Married to Jane Scott Fallen (Fallon) and their son was John fallon born 1903. Thank you :-)
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malyon
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24 Jan 2017 15:32 |
not seeing a birth or marriage for adam was it in uk
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Dea
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24 Jan 2017 15:33 |
Where and when were they married please and where was the son John born?
Dea x
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24 Jan 2017 15:43 |
looks like they were not married when the son john was born
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AustinQ
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24 Jan 2017 16:42 |
A tree on Ancestry has this census for Jane Scott Fallon:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription South Corrie Lane, Drysfesdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Adam Blacklock - Married Male 48 1853 Farmer Dumfriesshire, Elizabeth Blacklock - Married Female 46 1855 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland William Blacklock - Single Male 20 1881 Worker With Horse On Farm Dumfriesshire, Scotland Adam Blacklock - Single Male 13 1888 (1883 on Ancestry) Worker With Cattle On Farm Dumfriesshire Stewart Blacklock - Single Male 17 1884 Worker With Horse On Farm Dumfriesshire, Graham Blacklock - Single Male 15 1886 Worker With Cattle On Farm Dumfriesshire, David Bell Blacklock - - Male 13 1888 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Jean Blacklock - - Female 11 1890 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Janet Blacklock - - Female 8 1893 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Bessie Blacklock - - Female 7 1894 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Kate Blacklock - - Female 5 1896 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Alexander Gordon Blacklock - - Male 4 1897 - Dumfriesshire, Kate Anderson - - Female 12 1889 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Jane Fallon - - Female 22 1879 General Domestic Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
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24 Jan 2017 16:44 |
2 John Fallon's born 1903 in Scotland.
However if he was born Fallon then parents not married at the time OR are you saying that John Fallon are his Christian names and he was John Fallon Blackstock??
EDIT - see later - surname would seem to be BLACKLOCK not Blackstock
FALLON JOHN M 1903 570/ 119 Lochwinnoch (this is Renfrewshire)
---------------------------------------- FALLON JOHN M 1903 820/ 35 Dryfesdale
EDIT - second one looks more likely given 1901 census address
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greyghost
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24 Jan 2017 16:59 |
1871 for the Fallen family (pre Jane's birth) but note surname of sister in law. Not seeing a marriage for Michael and Helen. Jane appears on the next census x 2 with family
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Port Street, Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Michel Fallen Head Married Male 28 1843 Mariner Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Helen Fallen Wife Married Female 30 1841 - Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Margaret Fallen Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Helen Fallen Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Thomas Fallen Son - Male 1 1870 - Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Mary E Scott Sister-In-Law - Female 25 1846 Cotton Weaver Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
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greyghost
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24 Jan 2017 17:16 |
Have done a fair bit of editing here - I had written it all out before, but didn't submit before wandering off elsewhere !!
Adam's ( if 1876) birth - so surname BLACKLOCK not Blackstock looking at this and census info.,
Surname Forename Gender Year Ref RD Name Image View BLACKLOCK ADAM M 1876 820/ 50 Dryfesdale
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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Sydney Place, Dryfesdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Adam Blacklock Head Married Male 38 1843 Shepherd Johnstone, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Elizh Blacklock Wife Married Female 38 1843 - Annan, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Margt Blacklock Daughter - Female 12 1869 Scholar Eskdalemuir, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Jessie Blacklock Daughter - Female 10 1871 Scholar Eskdalemuir, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Elizh Blacklock Daughter - Female 8 1873 Scholar Brydekirk, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Annie Blacklock Daughter - Female 6 1875 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Adam Blacklock Son - Male 4 1877 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland Chas Blacklock Son - Male 2 1879 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland Mary Blacklock Daughter - Female 0 1881 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland
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BLACKLOCK ADAM Elizabeth VIVERS 1867 841/ 18 18
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Jan 2017 17:50 |
Seems to be an assortment between 'Stock and Lock' in 'Search All Member Trees'...
Looking around on google search, Adam Blacklock/Elizabeth Vivers for Parents of 1876.
Chris :)
Edits (in case Neil isn't aware of 'Search' All Member Trees)
(top right of page, here, under 'Search, to see if other Genes Member are sharing)
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AustinQ
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24 Jan 2017 18:11 |
There seems to be a lot of confusion over the parents- the Adam Blacklock on that 1901 was born c1883 and isn't the 1876 birth (with mother Elizabeth Vivers).
This is 'our' Blacklock family in 1891:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription South Corrielaw, Dryfesdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Adam Blacklock Head Married Male 37 1854 Farmer Dumfriesshire, Scotland Elizabeth Blacklock Wife Married Female 36 1855 Farmers Wife Dumfriesshire, Scotland William Blacklock Son Unmarried Male 10 1881 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Adam Blacklock Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Stewart Blacklock Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Graham Blacklock Son - Male 5 1886 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland David Blacklock Son - Male 2 1889 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland Jean Blacklock Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland Jean Blacklock Sister Unmarried Female 21 1870 Kitchen Maid Dumfriesshire, William Blacklock Brother Unmarried Male 25 1866 Railway Porter Dumfriesshire, Robert McCall Servant Unmarried Male 15 1876 Shepherd Dumfriesshire, Scotland Jane Kennedy Servant Unmarried Female 25 1866 Dairymaid Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Jean Cowan Servant Unmarried Female 14 1877 Nurse (Dom Servt) Dumfriesshire, Scotland James Dawson Servant Unmarried Male 42 1849 Farm Serv Cattleman - Alexander Gardiner Servant Unmarried Male 17 1874 Agl Labr Midlothian, Scotland --------------------------------------------
This is the 1876 Adam (not 'ours') in 1891:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription High Street, Dryfesdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Adam Blacklock Head Married Male 48 1843 Shepherd (Unemployed) Johnstone, Dumfriesshire Elizabeth Blacklock Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Brydekirk, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Margaret Blacklock Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1869 Dressmaker Eskdalemuir, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Adam Blacklock Son - Male 14 1877 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Charles Blacklock Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Mary Blacklock Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland John J Blacklock Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland Grace Blacklock Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Dumfriesshire, Scotland
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AustinQ
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24 Jan 2017 18:14 |
Our Adam born in 1882- parent's marriage:
GRAHAM ELIZABETH BLACKLOCK ADAM year:1880 820/ 7 Dryfesdale ----------------------------------------------
Adam's birth: BLACKLOCK ADAM 1882 831/ 11 Hutton and Corrie
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AustinQ
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24 Jan 2017 18:24 |
I suspect our Adam (born 1882) went to Canada- he travels to and fro quite a bit. This passenger list has a DOB:
First name(s) Adam Last name Blacklock Gender Male Birth 29-06- 1882 Occupation FARMER Departure year 1955 Departure day 20 Departure month 4 Departure port Glasgow Destination port Montreal Destination MONTREAL Country Canada Destination country Canada UK address: Eastriggs, Dumfriesshire Ship name Captain Cook Ship master's first name A Ship master's last name BANKIER City GLASGOW Ship destination port MONTREAL Ship destination country CANADA
There's probably more on Ancestry worldwide that might confirm- but I don't have sub for that.
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Jan 2017 18:27 |
So it's Lock, not Stock then, (lol, and nearly got that the wrong way round)
Chris :)
(ducks head here quick, in case AQ throws something at me!!)
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=46742
Name: BLACKLOCK, ADAM Regimental Number: 4100986 Date of Birth: 29/06/1882 Place of Birth : Huttton and Corries, Dumfrieshire, Scotland Father: Adam Blacklock
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AustinQ
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24 Jan 2017 18:33 |
Hehe- and two smoking barrels!
Chris- the closest thing I have to hand is a glass of wine- so no worries, the wine's going nowhere! (apart from my mouth)
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Jan 2017 18:34 |
Might just need barrels if this isn't right, lol...
(WW1, added above)
Chris :)
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AustinQ
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24 Jan 2017 18:36 |
Chris- that's a great find. So it looks to be our man scooting off to Canada.
However- how does Neil know that Adam fathered John Fallon??
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Jan 2017 18:38 |
Need more input from Neil, I think...
Chris :)
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AustinQ
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24 Jan 2017 18:40 |
It looks like Jane married a George Johnstone in 1905:
Marriage:
JOHNSTONE GEORGE FALLON JANE SCOTT
Year: 1905 Ref: 820/ 10 Entry Number: 10 Place: Dryfesdale Yes- more info needed
:-)
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greyghost
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24 Jan 2017 20:56 |
?? Listed as Returning Canadian
Going to Black Diamond, Alta (Alta under Province - so presume Alberta).
Ticked as having been in Canada before in 1913 in Sask (? Saskatchewan) and Alta for 4 years and says Yes to Intending to live in Canada permanently. Says Retired.
Name: Adam Blacklock Gender: Male Age: 31 Birth Year: abt 1883 Birth Country: Scotland Date of Arrival: 31 Mar 1914 Vessel: Athenia Search Ship Database: Search for the Athenia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: St Johns, Newfoundland, Canada Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
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greyghost
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24 Jan 2017 21:03 |
AusinQ's report at 1824 has the UK address in 1955 as 22 The Rand, Eastriggs. Noted that passport declares him as Canadian.
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Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
First name(s) Adam Last name Blacklock Gender Male Age 26 Birth year 1884 Marital status S Occupation FARMER Departure year 1910 Departure day 30 Departure month 4 Departure port Glasgow Destination port Montreal Destination MONTREAL Country Canada Destination country Canada Ship name Cassandra Ship official number 124130 Ship master's first name JOHN Ship master's last name MITCHELL Shipping line DONALDSON City GLASGOW Ship destination port MONTREAL Ship destination country CANADA Ship square feet 31560 Ship registered tonnage 5228 Number of passengers 1076
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