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Thanks for getting back to this 3 year old thread, which you marked as answered

Realistically, as no father was named on your father’s birth cert it will never be possible to positively identify the man.

Speculation may suggest that a certain individual was the father, but only DNA matching would provide proof

Please now look at responses on your recent thread on FLR board

Thanks ErikaH
New to using community threads I will post feedback with better info that I have found
But struggling with the two Mary Brannans Mother I believe 1866? ,Daughter I believe to be my dads mother .Mary Ellen Brannan 1866?.
I do have dads birth certificate stating mother Mary Ellen Brannan born 1905 ,with no farthers name stated in Abbots Bromley Staffordshire .I do appreciate all research
many thank SJBe

Nudging to keep close to new thread, which has been posted on FLR

Perhaps the poster will return this time with feedback rather than just marking as answered with no apparent word of thanks

Perhaps if you buy the 1905 birth certificate with the details posted earlier by safc then you might find that John Benton Brannon (or Benton John) might be the son of a relative of Mary and she just took him in along with Joseph Hazelbrook Brannon. Perhaps that is why it says none" in the relationship column.

Kath. x

But if they were married in 1908 why is there an 8 month old son on the 1911 census with surname Brannon? Joseph Hazlebrook Brannon on Ancestry. And why are the first 4 children listed as stepchildren but for the last 2 it says "none" in relationship column? And why does it say 1 child born to that marriage and that child had died?

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Newborough End, Newborough, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Smith Head Widower Male 34 1867 Farm Labourer Yoxall, Staffordshire, England
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Charles Smith Son Single Male 6 1895 - Yoxall, Staffordshire, England
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Mary Brannan Servant Married Female 34 1867 Housekeep (Domestic) Ireland
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Lucy Brannan - Single Female 10 1891 - Yoxall, Staffordshire, England
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Florence Brannan - Single Female 5 1896 - Yoxall, Staffordshire, England
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Joseph Brannan - Single Male 2 1899 - Yoxall, Staffordshire, England

Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
BRANNAN Mary Lichfield 6b 817 Scan available - click to view
BRANNON Mary Lichfield 6b 817 Scan available - click to view
SMITH John Lichfield 6b 817 Scan available - click to view

This seems to be the Joseph aged 12 on the 1911 census:

Joseph Brannan

in the 1901 England Census
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Name: Joseph Brannan
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Yoxall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Newborough
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Ecclesiastical parish: Newborough All Saints
Town: Newborough
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Uttoxeter
Sub-registration district: Abbots Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
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Piece: 2634
Folio: 62
Page Number: 11
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Brannan 2

The original shows that he's with Florence Brannan 5, Lucy Brannan 10 and Mary Brannan, 34, married and a servant (housekeeper) to John Smith, 34, widower and his son Charles Smith, 6. Says she's born Ireland.

(looks to be below perhaps)

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1910

BRANNAN Joseph Alebrook BRANNAN Rugeley Newcastle-Under-Lyme RUG/45/270


Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
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BRANNAN Joseph A Lichfield 6b 485

Chris :)

1939 Register Transcription

Brannan Household (3 People) Hadley Street,Yoxall , Tutbury R.D., Staffordshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Joseph H Brannan 28 May 1910 Male Discot Locomotive Driver Married 114 1
Annie E Brannan 11 Nov 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 114 2
Margaret H Minshall (Brannon) 24 Dec 1934 Female At School Single 114 4

JOSEPH H
Last name BRANNAN
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1931
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOSEPH H BRANNAN married
ANNIE E HALL
Spouse's last name HALL
District BURTON UPON TRENT
District number -
County Staffordshire
Country England
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Page 775
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JOSEPH HAZELBROOK
Last name BRANNAN
Gender Male
Birth day 28
Birth month 5
Birth year 1910
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1970
District BURTON UPON TRENT
County Staffordshire
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Page 124
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Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
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BRANNON, BENTON JOHN - Order
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in UTTOXETER Volume 06B Page 386

nice one Choccy
ties in with the school admission record

his birth

BENTON JOHN
Last name BRANNON
Birth year 1905
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District UTTOXETER
County Staffordshire
Country England
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Page 386
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
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Subcategory Births & baptisms
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Green Lane Hamstall Ridware Rugeley, Hamstall Ridware, Staffordshire, England


John Smith Head Married Male Farm Labourer 45 1866 Yoxall Staffs

Mary Smith Wife Married Female - 46 1865 Tipperary Staffs

Harry Brannon Stepdaughter Single Female - 15 1896 Hadley End Yoxall

Joseph Brannon Stepson - Male School 12 1899 Hadley End Yoxall

Arthur Brannon Stepson - Male School 8 1903 Hadley End Yoxall

Alice Brannon Stepdaughter - Female - 5 1906 Hadley End Yoxall

>>>>>>>>>>John Benton Brannon None - Male - 5 1906 Abbots Bromley

Joseph Haglebrook Brannon None - Male - 0 1911 Yoxall

possible father ???????????

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
School House Lane, Abbots Bromley, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Benton Head Married Male 60 1841 Retired General Labourer Mavesyn Ridware, Staffordshire, England
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Charlotte Benton Wife Married Female 51 1850 School Cleaner Staffordshire, England
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Amy Benton Daughter Single Female 26 1875 General Servant (Domestic) Abbots Bromley, Staffordshire, England
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John Benton Son Single Male 17 1884 Agricultural Labourer Staffordshire, England
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Frank Benton Son Single Male 14 1887 Errand Boy Staffordshire, England
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Albert Edward Benton Son Single Male 10 1891 - Staffordshire, England
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Maggie Eaton Niece Single Female 5 1896 - Staffordshire, England


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
School House Lane, Abbots Bromley, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England

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George Benton Head Married Male 50 1841 Bricklayers Labourer Blithbury, Staffordshire, England
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Charlotte Benton Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Acton Trussell, Staffordshire, England
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Thomas A W Benton Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Abbots Bromley, Staffordshire, England
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John H Benton Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Abbots Bromley, Staffordshire, England
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Frank H Benton Son - Male 4 1887 - Abbots Bromley, Staffordshire, England
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Albert E Benton Son - Male 0 1891 - Abbots Bromley, Staffordshire, England


John Henry
Last name Benton
Baptism year 1884
Baptism date 13 Jul 1884
Baptism place Abbots Bromley, St Nicholas
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Charlotte
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1209/1/1/6
Page 153
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire baptisms
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JOHN
Last name BENTON
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1926
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOHN BENTON married
PHYLLIS M THORLEY
Spouse's last name THORLEY
District WALSALL
District number -
County Staffordshire
Country England
Volume 6B
Page 1391
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1939 Register Transcription

Benton Household (4 People) 83 West Street , Walsall C.B., Staffordshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
John Benton 23 Sep 1905 Male Brewer Married 251 1
Phyllis (M) Benton 08 Jan 1909 Female Charwoman Married 251 2
Phyllis Spiby (Benton) 20 Nov 1926 Female At School Single 251 3
John Benton 21 Mar 1928 Male At School Single 251 4

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National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription
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First name(s) John
Last name Benton
Birth year 1905
Birth date 14 Aug 1905
Event year 1910
School name Hoar Cross National School (Mixed Dept.)
Town Hoar
County Staffordshire
Country England
Parent name(s) John Smith
Book type Admissions
Archive reference D4345_1_2
Folio / page no. -
Archive Staffordshire & Stoke on Trent Archives
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914
Category Education & work
Subcategory Schools & education
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address woodhill yoxall, last school yoxall, Left as left the district 13/1/1911

Who and where did he marry please?

Dea x

There is no birth showing in Staffordshire aroung that time with Brannan as a mother's maiden name.

What else do you know about him please?

Did he have a middle name,

Any brothers or sisters?

Dea x

Trying to find my fathers father.
My father,John Benton born 1905 in Abbots Bromley Staffordshire ,mothers name,Mary Ellen Brannan,born 1886 in Yoxall Staffordshire.
Fathers marriage certificate states his fathers name to be John Benton ,deceased.
Thank you.